The College Dropout Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 1 minute ago, Village Idiot said: Personally I don't think he's world class, just about a tier below that. But we live in a world were people like Tony fetch nearly €100m. That's where I have him. I think he suits our style a bit better than yours imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 £70M quid for Raphinha seems about right to me, like. He'd easily go into the bracket of Botman, Bruno, and Isak wouldn't he, just on pure quality? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 5 minutes ago, Rich said: £70M quid for Raphinha seems about right to me, like. He'd easily go into the bracket of Botman, Bruno, and Isak wouldn't he, just on pure quality? Not my money + FFP a myth = just do it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 26 minutes ago, Village Idiot said: Because we're broke? And yes, he's been great, particularly in the past months - it took him a bit to get integrated into the side. Yes, just find it weird to wrap my head around Barcelona agreeing to sell anybody considering their transfer activity in the summer when they were equally broke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, TRon said: Yes, just find it weird to wrap my head around Barcelona agreeing to sell anybody considering their transfer activity in the summer when they were equally broke. If they sell him just to take Messi back though. Need to forget about him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, TRon said: Yes, just find it weird to wrap my head around Barcelona agreeing to sell anybody considering their transfer activity in the summer when they were equally broke. LaLiga changed their FFP rules to prevent us from doing what we did last summer. So we kinda have to. Edited May 3, 2023 by Village Idiot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebelrouser Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 46 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: I also expect he’s on astronomical wages €240,385 per week Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 It sounds steep. But when you think what the likes of Antony, Sancho and Mudryk went for and how daft prices are becoming. It doesn’t sound so bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 Raphinha is still a good age, has already been productive in the Premier League, played a style at Leeds that translates well to our current high tempo pressing approach and would instantly have the Brazilian connection with two of our best players. It's about as sure banker a signing as you can get in many regards, and he'd fit into the first team instantly on the right side with absolutely minimal fuss. It makes a lot of sense and so it's understandable. I think around £60 million would be ideal like @The College Dropout says, but if we make the Champions League then chucking on another £10 million isn't so terrible. If we go that high, I imagine the payment terms would be reasonable, and so would be spread out in a way that works well for us. I see a lot of reports that say he is on £100,00 a week and so paying him somewhere in that range works for our current wage structure too. Although there are also some reports saying he is currently on £200,000 a week, which obviously wouldn't work for us. Guess it depends which of those estimates are accurate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 51 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: No. The same stats im using have Harrison as middling (vs other wingers). Raphinha - love him as player but he’s not worth £80m. Giving them back the £60m they paid is fair. 65m as a gesture is fine. Not worth a penny more. A lot of his creativity comes from set plays. While he’s good for a few worldies he’s not a composed finisher. I also expect he’s on astronomical wages. £65m x 175k max imo. You were talking about Zubimendi in the post I quoted not Raphinha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Dancer Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 What's the talk locally regarding Messi @Village Idiot? Is he coming home? Would be nice to see him back - you never know, I might even get to see him at St James' next year regardless! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kocunar Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 Would be a great signing but I don't see it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 31 minutes ago, Ace said: You were talking about Zubimendi in the post I quoted not Raphinha Yeh Zubimendi stats Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 1 hour ago, kocunar said: Would be a great signing but I don't see it. Same. I just don't see how we'd come to an agreement on wages even if he was prepared to come here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 The player I saw play for Leeds was performing as good as the likes of Saka, Sterling etc.... he was just playing for an absolutely bang average Leeds side, which meant he spent loads of time defending. He fits the profile we are looking for, entirely along the lines of what I mentioned the other day. PL experience Quality Can play in a pressing system Young and mouldable His price is probably top end of what we can do. He's 50/60m player but capable of jumping up to a 100m player, if it clicks for him. His wages look big but we are edging towards increasing our wage cap quite soon if we want to progress. Whether he's world class or not, depends entirely on your definition. He's certainly an elite player IMO. He'd be adored here, no doubt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 Also remember the golden rule... selling side will always exaggerate the potential fee, buying side will play the fee down. If they reckon we are paying 60 odd million quid, I'd bet it would be more like 40m with a raft of performance based add ons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 5 hours ago, Optimistic Nut said: They really selling just to sign Messi for another 1-2 years? Wish they were the Ronaldinho, Eto'o, Giuly, Deco, Barcelona again. Horrible fucking club. Wish they were the Guardiola, Figo, Luis Enrique, R9 Barcelona again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 1 minute ago, Super Duper Branko Strupar said: Wish they were the Guardiola, Figo, Luis Enrique, R9 Barcelona again Used to love that Kappa kit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 Just now, Mikky said: Used to love that Kappa kit Was in Spain that year and got the full kit, was 11 or 12. Wish my parents had the foresight to keep these things once Id grown out or stopped wearing them. To think of the nice OG shirts I must have thrown away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 4 minutes ago, Super Duper Branko Strupar said: Was in Spain that year and got the full kit, was 11 or 12. Wish my parents had the foresight to keep these things once Id grown out or stopped wearing them. To think of the nice OG shirts I must have thrown away. Both home and away kits were nice - away was light blue I think - worn in the Cup Winners Cup final under SBR from what I remember Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 31 minutes ago, Super Duper Branko Strupar said: Wish they were the Guardiola, Figo, Luis Enrique, R9 Barcelona again Wish we were the Kubala, César, Basora, Ramallets Barcelona again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 3 hours ago, The College Dropout said: I don’t think he’s world class. I don’t think he’s better than Rodrygo let alone Vini Jr. level. Who would be in for him at 65m? Right now there’s maybe one player at the same level or above Vini, and while Raphinha isn’t as talented as Rodrygo he sure is above his level right now. Raphinha isn’t at the top of football, but looking at players we’ve been linked to realistically he’s the best out of them. 26 years old, proven in the PL and doing well for Barcelona after having a spell in the wrong position due to Xavi preferring Dembele. In terms of money who cares tbh? We paid £40m for Gordon, £60-80 for Raphinha would be a far better deal. Also, he’d improve us and Almiron would keep him fresh as well not having to play every game next season. I’ll put it this way, Raphinha would be a far better signing than Maddison or Paqueta. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The College Dropout Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 I swear last summer people were telling me we could get better value than Raphinha for 60m. I was all for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 Why do the Barcelona fans on Twitter not seem to rate him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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