The College Dropout Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 All his 10m+ signings. There's only one clear success imo. benik afobe - €14m - FLOP Mings - €12m (massive shame for Howe) - FLOP for Bournemouth but sold for a profit Max Gradel - €10m - FLOP Ibe - €18m - FLOP Ake - €23m - SUCCESS Begovic - €12m - FLOP Lerma - €31m true forrin - PAR? solanke - €22m - FLOP for Howe. Long-term success. Rico - €15m true forrin - FLOP Mepham - €13m - NO IDEA (SUCCESS??) Brooks - €12m - INITIAL SUCCESS Billing - €17m - SUCCESS (I GUESS) Danjuma - €17m true forrin - FLOP Kelly - €15m - FLOP. McTominay is a Howe Bournemouth type signing (and so is Gordon). 1 hour ago, Sempiternal said: That article is weird, basically all clubs judge off those attributes. I will say this, players who can’t run (Shelvey style) aren’t going to make it these days, which I think is a shame but it’s heavily valued It seems to emphasis that we are prioritising physicality and athleticism. IMO that fits the Gordon & McTominary signings/links. And so does Botman & Isak but they are also technically great for their positions. JM doesn't fit that profile his physicality is a weakness. I think we need cuteness in attack. Isak has that. Not sold on Gordon having it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sempiternal Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Just now, The College Dropout said: All his 10m+ signings. There's only one clear success imo. benik afobe - €14m - FLOP Mings - €12m (massive shame for Howe) - FLOP for Bournemouth but sold for a profit Max Gradel - €10m - FLOP Ibe - €18m - FLOP Ake - €23m - SUCCESS Begovic - €12m - FLOP Lerma - €31m true forrin - PAR? solanke - €22m - FLOP for Howe. Long-term success. Rico - €15m true forrin - FLOP Mepham - €13m - NO IDEA (SUCCESS??) Brooks - €12m - INITIAL SUCCESS Billing - €17m - SUCCESS (I GUESS) Danjuma - €17m true forrin - FLOP Kelly - €15m - FLOP. McTominay is a Howe Bournemouth type signing (and so is Gordon). It seems to emphasis that we are prioritising physicality and athleticism. IMO that fits the Gordon & McTominary signings/links. And so does Botman & Isak but they are also technically great for their positions. JM doesn't fit that profile his physicality is a weakness. I think we need cuteness in attack. Isak has that. Not sold on Gordon having it. Yeah but then it mentions technical ability which I found strange, I mean everyone wants a physical player who has good technique. Personally I would rather prioritize technical ability but that’s just my preference Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 (edited) Mate, Dropout... with all due respect, you really can't help yourself, can you? Edited March 15, 2023 by Kanji Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sempiternal Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 (edited) Like Bruno is not the most athletically gifted player, he’s not Shelvey but he’s not an elite athlete but his technical ability is so good that it supersedes that Edited March 15, 2023 by Sempiternal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnonel Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 I used to eat sand as a kid Guess I will always be known as the kid who ate sand Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Personally, I'm more interested in looking at his signings for Newcastle, than having a time travelling exercise with the purpose of finding a stick to bash Howe with. He also "couldn't sort out a defence", remember. My ratings so far: Trippier- 9/10 Bruno- 10/10 Burn- 7/10 Targett- 6/10 Wood- 5/10 Pope- 8/10 Botman- 9/10 Isak- 8/10 potentially 10/10 Gordon- 6/10 (too soon) No club gets them all right. We just need to keep going. If we can get 3 Botman/Isaks in the summer and 2 even younger players for the squad, we will have done ok. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 2 hours ago, Kanji said: He was attempting to sign players to go play down to Bournemouth. He's hardly going to be competing with the established PL clubs during his time at Bournemouth where finances were tight, stadium was small and you had to find the exact right Howe type of player within the aforementioned constraints. Yeah, this is constantly overlooked. Think he did well considering how small a club they were and how much above their weight they were punching. They didn't have anywhere near the size of infrastructure behind the scenes regarding scouting and analysis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Sempiternal said: Yeah but then it mentions technical ability which I found strange, I mean everyone wants a physical player who has good technique. Personally I would rather prioritize technical ability but that’s just my preference Looks like Howe is looking to build a more dynamic team with very physical and aggressive pressing off the ball, and one that attacks the opposition with power, pace and ball carrying ability. We will need to find players like this with better technical ability than we currently have through the squad at the minute, but they won't necessarily be the highly technical types that you tend to find with slower paced, ultra possession heavy sides. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Danjuma wasn't really a flop for Bournemouth. He got injured, then played very well in the Champ, and was sold for twice as much as they paid for him. Bournemouth are a tough club to buy PL standard players for. Remember he was very keen on Schar but couldn't convince him to go there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Sempiternal said: Like Bruno is not the most athletically gifted player, he’s not Shelvey but he’s not an elite athlete but his technical ability is so good that it supersedes that Yeah, the beauty with him though is his tenacity and commitment, which makes up a lot for any lesser natural physical gifts. He also just has a great knack for being in the right place and having a great awareness of what is around him both with and without the ball and so he is very effective, which is why all his statistical numbers are so high, even for metrics more associated with players that are great athletes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 I would argue Bruno is a pretty good athlete. He has great stamina, isn’t slow, good strength, and agility. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myleftboot Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Does Eddie actually have a say in our signings. They might be bought for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, Myleftboot said: Does Eddie actually have a say in our signings. They might be bought for him. Aye, he's part of the recruitment team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 He was defacto director of football last January Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sempiternal Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 1 hour ago, KaKa said: Yeah, the beauty with him though is his tenacity and commitment, which makes up a lot for any lesser natural physical gifts. He also just has a great knack for being in the right place and having a great awareness of what is around him both with and without the ball and so he is very effective, which is why all his statistical numbers are so high, even for metrics more associated with players that are great athletes. Totally, he’s not a bad athlete or anything but he’s not like a willock. His brain is fast enough that he doesn’t need to be super fast or physical, he’s already a step ahead in his mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Genuinely cannot believe we had someone posting Eddie Howe’s Bournemouth signings again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sempiternal Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 1 hour ago, KaKa said: Yeah, the beauty with him though is his tenacity and commitment, which makes up a lot for any lesser natural physical gifts. He also just has a great knack for being in the right place and having a great awareness of what is around him both with and without the ball and so he is very effective, which is why all his statistical numbers are so high, even for metrics more associated with players that are great athletes. I actually saw a good Pep quote about this where he says about bernado Silva that his importance doesn’t show in the stats. Bruno does, but it was interesting. Shows that you can’t solely rely on stats to look at a player. https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMYuWGTy2/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbee909 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Ah, this thread reminded me to add someone back to the ignore list. Somehow they'd 'dropped out' of it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 1 hour ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Genuinely cannot believe we had someone posting Eddie Howe’s Bournemouth signings again Given who it is, I can. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
greydos Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 3 hours ago, STM said: Personally, I'm more interested in looking at his signings for Newcastle, than having a time travelling exercise with the purpose of finding a stick to bash Howe with. He also "couldn't sort out a defence", remember. My ratings so far: Trippier- 9/10 Bruno- 10/10 Burn- 7/10 Targett- 6/10 Wood- 5/10 Pope- 8/10 Botman- 9/10 Isak- 8/10 potentially 10/10 Gordon- 6/10 (too soon) No club gets them all right. We just need to keep going. If we can get 3 Botman/Isaks in the summer and 2 even younger players for the squad, we will have done ok. Why does Tripps not get a 10? Best right back for us in my 30 years of supporting. Burn rating seems harsh also given he was cheap, kept us up, got us to a cup final and launched a top 4 tilt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Bit unfair I think given the club he was at, the players he could attract to Bournemouth, etc. That's why they had to gamble on the likes of Ibe, Gradel, etc early on and overpay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Was Mings not good at Bournemouth? I used to think he looked decent back then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 2 hours ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Genuinely cannot believe we had someone posting Eddie Howe’s Bournemouth signings again You did see who posted it, right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronson333 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 (edited) We should be looking at Gift Orban from Gent, great goal scoring record already and won’t cost that much. Edited March 15, 2023 by Ronson333 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 2 hours ago, andycap said: Was Mings not good at Bournemouth? I used to think he looked decent back then. Loads of the players labelled as flops in the list above were actually alright for Bournemouth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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