joeyt Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, Disco said: Give Sorensen a game ahead of Wood IMO. Scored loads in the bairns. Assuming this is a woosh attempt? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 3 hours ago, Groundhog63 said: Once again, for the dunces at the back. We were relegation fodder New owners, new manager knew we needed a striker or it was Gayle* We went out, early doors, paid a release clause for an experienced striker as a cushion just in case. Then went looking for a better one which didn't happen. One of the earliest signs that the ownership/manager both meant business AND were prepared to fork out. Guess what, thickos? It worked. 100% NOT a mistake. * no disrespect to Gayle I’d also add and remind people no EPL club wanted to sell us a forward and we’re dicking us about by hinting they would then moving goalposts etc and wasting our time and causing havoc whilst we allocated the rest of the budget on other signings so the only forward we could buy is one with a release clause so the club couldn’t prevent it and also with someone willing to join the club in deep relegation trouble. EH wanted premier league experience, excellent fitness record and great attitude which is what we got and it worked. Job done. You could argue we could’ve shopped abroad that window for a striker but then you could argue that might of backfired and it also wasn’t what EH wanted to work with. People still questioning the Wood signing are beyond help in my eyes now ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Holmesy said: Getting rid of Wood and not even replacing him leaves our squad stronger. Obviously replacing him would be the ideal scenario but knowing he wouldn't be involved in games any more is benefit enough. I'd rather have Maxi or someone from the academy playing than someone we absolutely know can't and won't perform at this level. Absolute drivel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmesy Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 1 minute ago, samptime29 said: Absolute drivel. ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nepharite Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GideonShandy Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, LFEE said: I’d also add and remind people no EPL club wanted to sell us a forward and we’re dicking us about by hinting they would then moving goalposts etc and wasting our time and causing havoc whilst we allocated the rest of the budget on other signings so the only forward we could buy is one with a release clause so the club couldn’t prevent it and also with someone willing to join the club in deep relegation trouble. EH wanted premier league experience, excellent fitness record and great attitude which is what we got and it worked. Job done. You could argue we could’ve shopped abroad that window for a striker but then you could argue that might of backfired and it also wasn’t what EH wanted to work with. People still questioning the Wood signing are beyond help in my eyes now ? And it disrupted Burnley who at that time looked like our main competition for the third relegation spot and in fact ended up in that spot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memphis Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 It's a bit difficult to discuss because Chris Wood is all of the following: helpful last season to our scrap against relegation not especially helpful to us this year on the pitch massively overvalued at 25m seemingly a nice guy and a hard worker nowhere near good enough to play routinely for us well-liked by his teammates and part of a successful group expendable Wood had a role to play, he played it. He didn't control his own transfer fee, I don't blame him for that. But his role has changed and, well, disappeared, if all goes to plan. We should move him along with our best wishes and continue onwards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 Just now, Nepharite said: Injury prone left winger? Rings a bell. No thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 Saying nothing others haven’t already said but loaning Wood is daft unless we have a replacement lined up. I seriously doubt he’d want to leave to sit on the bench at Forest anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 Just now, GideonShandy said: And it disrupted Burnley who at that time looked like our main competition for the third relegation spot and in fact ended up in that spot. It really didn't. Wood had been shite all season for them. I can understand the other arguments though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, Holmesy said: What are you not understanding about this?! It’s really not hard. I admit I was wrong about Chris Wood not winning headers, 100%. Gold star for you. But those headers he wins don’t do anything, so it’s a shit statistic! If you want to crack open a beer because Chris Wood wins loads of headers that do nothing useful, knock yourself out pal. I’ll go back and amend my point from Chris Wood doesn’t win any headers to Chris Wood wins all of the headers but the net result is still the same as if he didn’t. ?? You can attempt to change the narrative for what you said to now relate to the effectiveness of his headers, but the fact remains that you were of the belief he didn’t win any headers, when in fact that’s probably one of the strongest aspects of his game. Which in turn suggests you have a very poor understanding of what he actually contributes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 I think the only positive would be 100k a week off the books? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nepharite Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Manxst said: Injury prone left winger? Rings a bell. No thanks. Not for me either but it is interesting to note that he is in the top 99 percentile for winning aerial duels, just like Wood. 1 in 4 record. Edited January 18, 2023 by Nepharite Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 Would be stupid to loan Wood to Forest. In the summer, I have no issues with us moving him on but we need him as cover for the rest of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmesy Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 Just now, SteV said: You can attempt to change the narrative for what you said to now relate to the effectiveness of his headers, but the fact remains that you were of the belief he didn’t win any headers, when in fact that’s probably one of the strongest aspects of his game. Which in turn suggests you have a very poor understanding of what he actually contributes. Jesus Christ, you're exhausting. You see the bit in my last post where i said i was wrong? Maybe focus on that bit you enormous bellend! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 The Wood signing still being questioned a year on after he started in 17 games last season of which we won 10, stayed up comfortably and are now sitting 3rd in the PL this season. A year to the day on from when Howe had apparently not improved us at all, was certainly taking us down and we just had to get Benitez in to sort it out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonesJones Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 Think the idea behind Wood wasn't to directly head the ball to anyone, more that we had a team good at winning second balls. How often we won second balls might be the stat to look at. I'm in the he was overpriced but helped the team in some way to avoid relegation camp. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny1403 Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Holmesy said: Seriously?! The worst? Ok mate ?? We’ve seen this before with lots of shit players (especially under managers like Bruce, Pardew etc.). When you have a player in your squad, there’s always the temptation to use him. If he’s not in the squad you HAVE to use a different (better) option. Hence, stronger squad. Wood, isn’t good enough and nowhere as good as Wilson, Maxi and Isak. Therefore, the average quality of our attackers is reduced with Wood in the mix. Wood - 5 Wilson - 8 Isak - 8 Maxi -7 Average - 7 Wilson - 8 Isak - 8 Maxi - 7 Average - 7.66 This is merely for illustrative purposes obviously. No exact scientific models were applied. In no circumstance would we play better with ASM as a CF over Wood. An absolutely mental suggestion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 We are 3rd and in the semi's of a cup, anyone complaining about Chris Wood who will likely play 5 minutes a game max, needs to reevaluate their priorities. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 8 minutes ago, Holmesy said: Jesus Christ, you're exhausting. You see the bit in my last post where i said i was wrong? Maybe focus on that bit you enormous bellend! Now, now, play nice…. It’s not just that you were wrong. If you said he’d scored two goals, and it was in fact three, that would be being wrong, but it wouldn’t make much difference to the overall argument. But the fact is you were completely wrong about a fundamental aspect of his game, which, like I keep repeating, suggests you don’t understand the aspects of his game that made him particularly useful for us last season, if a fair bit less so this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 (edited) Some people just love whining I suppose it was going to take time to shake off the pessimism of the Ashley era. Edited January 18, 2023 by Klaus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmesy Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, SteV said: Now, now, play nice…. It’s not just that you were wrong. If you said he’d scored two goals, and it was in fact three, that would be being wrong, but it wouldn’t make much difference to the overall argument. But the fact is you were completely wrong about a fundamental aspect of his game, which, like I keep repeating, suggests you don’t understand the aspects of his game that made him particularly useful for us last season, if a fair bit less so this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sushimonster85 Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 Lads, this craic is making me long for a Sean Casey tweet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 We really need some solid transfer news I come in this thread now and then hoping for some positive updates. But I just have to trawl through 2-3 pages of squabbling. Just to get to some nonsense link that probably belongs in the Twitter BS thread. We’re absolute fiends. Getting all arsey and fighting because we can’t get our transfer fix. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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