TRon Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 3 hours ago, Max Cherry said: Feel like something will happen this week with Maddison/Szob The only downside to signing Maddison is it means we probably won't be signing Szoboszlai. Then I'm going to be raging when he signs for Villa or Spurs. FFP is really fucking us over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 Robin Koch at Leeds who I think we've been linked with at times can leave Leeds on a free this summer after they've been relegated according to Bild. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, KDT said: Robin Koch at Leeds who I think we've been linked with at times can leave Leeds on a free this summer after they've been relegated according to Bild. Leeds fans will be partying. He's rubbish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 I’d take him on free for sure if it frees up the budget to go bigger on another cm. Very solid and can play back-up to Bruno and Schar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, KDT said: Robin Koch at Leeds who I think we've been linked with at times can leave Leeds on a free this summer after they've been relegated according to Bild. He's dogshit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 1 minute ago, McCormick said: I’d take him on free for sure if it frees up the budget to go bigger on another cm. Very solid and can play back-up to Bruno and Schar. "Very solid" isn't a description of the same player. He's been a massive flop for Leeds. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 (edited) ah well, nvm then. Not paid much attention but I always thought he was all right. Edited June 12, 2023 by McCormick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 3 hours ago, Geordie Ahmed said: Seems like it will be either Ratcliffe or the Qatari's With Ratcliffe a couple of the Glazers would remain but as minority shareholders, think there would still be debt involved but at a much reduced rate than they have now With the Qataris it would make them debt free so they'd have way more scope to spend big, well bigger since they already spend big They’d largely be in the same boat as they are now in terms of player spend. Any takeover doesn’t magically alter revenue, sales or the players already at the club. They would perhaps fix the wreck that is Old Trafford mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 13 minutes ago, GeordieDazzler said: They’d largely be in the same boat as they are now in terms of player spend. Any takeover doesn’t magically alter revenue, sales or the players already at the club. They would perhaps fix the wreck that is Old Trafford mind. I think it does changes things though, whatever the Glazers currently take out in dividends and also spend on interest payments will go towards transfers. That will be a decent amount No idea how much it is specifically, maybe @Froggy knows?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 I know Leeds were a basketcase at times but I honestly thought Koch was one of the worst players I've ever seen in the PL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 31 minutes ago, KDT said: Robin Koch at Leeds who I think we've been linked with at times can leave Leeds on a free this summer after they've been relegated according to Bild. Hell no Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 5 minutes ago, Geordie Ahmed said: I think it does changes things though, whatever the Glazers currently take out in dividends and also spend on interest payments will go towards transfers. That will be a decent amount No idea how much it is specifically, maybe @Froggy knows?? They take £20-£23m out every season in dividends. They were very kind to only take £11m out when covid had devastated the accounts, but then took £33m out the following year anyway. Over the last 10 years I think the interest works out around £50m a season. They took out another loan over Covid rather than put any money in and we're still paying it as an external debt as well and it has averaged about £35m over the last couple of seasons. They've also paid themselves management fees around £25m from the club accounts and paid themselves director fees worth £55m (12 directors, 6 Glazers) over the last 10 years. They take a lot out of the club. It was looked at extensively by Swiss Ramble last season and in August last year it was estimated that they've cost the club £1.6b since they took over. If we were bought by someone who cleared the debts, we could do a Boehly in the summer, but I don't think the squad needs it. A striker, midfielder, centre back and a goalkeeper would do rightly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 54 minutes ago, KDT said: Robin Koch at Leeds who I think we've been linked with at times can leave Leeds on a free this summer after they've been relegated according to Bild. He’s Champo quality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astroblack Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 Koch is probably the least liked player on this forum for his football ability alone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 2 hours ago, TRon said: The only downside to signing Maddison is it means we probably won't be signing Szoboszlai. Then I'm going to be raging when he signs for Villa or Spurs. FFP is really fucking us over. Agree, the Maddison links are not that exciting to me because I want Szoboszlai more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Boyo Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, timeEd32 said: Agree, the Maddison links are not that exciting to me because I want Szoboszlai more. Aye, a bit like when the ice cream van parks up, but your mam says there’s choc ices in the freezer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, timeEd32 said: Agree, the Maddison links are not that exciting to me because I want Szoboszlai more. I'd be delighted with either. Szoboszlai definitely has a higher ceiling but he's a massive risk for the proposed outlay, more so when you have a cheaper guarantee. Edited June 12, 2023 by The Prophet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 what’s the use in being owned by human rights abusers if we can’t have both Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebelrouser Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 1 hour ago, KDT said: Robin Koch at Leeds who I think we've been linked with at times can leave Leeds on a free this summer after they've been relegated according to Bild. What about Pascal Struijk for lb from Leeds instead? He can step into DM role too and Leeds can rely on Firpo instead. Another Dutch giant to go along with Botman. sofascore Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 9 minutes ago, timeEd32 said: Agree, the Maddison links are not that exciting to me because I want Szoboszlai more. Im sure I’ll be fine once/if he signs, but man, I always detested the cheating little diving scrote. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, rebelrouser said: What about Pascal Struijk for lb from Leeds instead? He can step into DM role too and Leeds can rely on Firpo instead. Another Dutch giant to go along with Botman. sofascore I wouldn’t touch a single Leeds defender with a ten foot pole. Struijk is not PL quality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 7 minutes ago, Geordie Boyo said: Aye, a bit like when the ice cream van parks up, but your mam says there’s choc ices in the freezer Even worse when she says she can make a burger ? just like McDonalds!! “I got McDonalds and you don’t have none” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 48 minutes ago, Froggy said: They take £20-£23m out every season in dividends. They were very kind to only take £11m out when covid had devastated the accounts, but then took £33m out the following year anyway. Over the last 10 years I think the interest works out around £50m a season. They took out another loan over Covid rather than put any money in and we're still paying it as an external debt as well and it has averaged about £35m over the last couple of seasons. They've also paid themselves management fees around £25m from the club accounts and paid themselves director fees worth £55m (12 directors, 6 Glazers) over the last 10 years. They take a lot out of the club. It was looked at extensively by Swiss Ramble last season and in August last year it was estimated that they've cost the club £1.6b since they took over. If we were bought by someone who cleared the debts, we could do a Boehly in the summer, but I don't think the squad needs it. A striker, midfielder, centre back and a goalkeeper would do rightly. Do you think the Qatari bid is legit? Weren’t they invited into the process by the Raine group as more or less a stalking horse to get Ratcliffe to keep upping his offer even though he’s possibly the only show in town? I might be wrong but something just seems a bit off about their part in the process. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 1 hour ago, KDT said: Robin Koch at Leeds who I think we've been linked with at times can leave Leeds on a free this summer after they've been relegated according to Bild. They'll do well to get that for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 Madison is outrageously good, the fact he can kick a ball further than 18 yards towards goal removes a massive weakness of ours too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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