Guest HTT II Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, Astroblack said: Was listening to a bit of Talkshite at work yesterday and they said that Kante was the best CDM they had ever seen and I agree with them. It got me thinking, who’s the best box to box midfielder of all time. For me, it’s Yaya Toure during that Man City period. I thought Paul Pogba and Dele Alli would raise the standard but they’ve stagnated quite drastically. Yaya was something I don’t think I’ve ever seen before or after his retirement, someone who could drive up the field, skip challenges and finish exquisitely within stride. Gerrard was great but not Yaya level. I’d probably put him at the top of that Gerrard, Scholes Lampard debate but what Yaya did has yet to be equaled IMO. Pre takeover, I wanted Joe Aribo from Rangers. Think he has drive within him and is evident with two goals vs Brazil. Is it a position that stands out like it used to or has everyone just become a scurrying #6? Kante is the best I’ve seen in that position, before him it was Makelele. Box to box? Lampard for me, he was (IMO) underrated in many ways, he could pass like Gerrard or Beckham, score goals as if he was Alan Shearer, cover the pitch as if he was Kante, press as if he was in a LFC front 3, defend/jockey/track back/cover/intercept as if he was a Big Joe and he was consistent. Gerrard was more dynamic, but less of a player technically for me. Scholes was great, especially technically, but I think today he’s somewhat overrated or his actual abilities have been exaggerated somewhat. Toure is a great shout, but he was Pogba on speed basically and off the ball didn’t do as much as he could and should. Edited February 25, 2022 by HTT II Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgarve Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 46 minutes ago, HTT II said: Kante is the best I’ve seen in that position, before him it was Makelele. Box to box? Lampard for me, he was (IMO) underrated in many ways, he could pass like Gerrard or Beckham, score goals as if he was Alan Shearer, cover the pitch as if he was Kante, press as if he was in a LFC front 3, defend/jockey/track back/cover/intercept as if he was a Big Joe and he was consistent. Gerrard was more dynamic, but less of a player technically for me. Scholes was great, especially technically, but I think today he’s somewhat overrated or his actual abilities have been exaggerated somewhat. Toure is a great shout, but he was Pogba on speed basically and off the ball didn’t do as much as he could and should. Lampard was the attacking player in that trio though, Ballack was more of the box to box player Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgarve Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Champions league final now in paris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 And Ukrainian and Russian clubs playing in UEFA competitions are forced to play in neutral venues until further notice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 27 minutes ago, 54 said: And Ukrainian and Russian clubs playing in UEFA competitions are forced to play in neutral venues until further notice. Anyone have an idea of the fans reaction to Zenit last night. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 1 hour ago, 54 said: And Ukrainian and Russian clubs playing in UEFA competitions are forced to play in neutral venues until further notice. Russian teams should be banned from all European or International sports competitions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 4 hours ago, HTT II said: Kante is the best I’ve seen in that position, before him it was Makelele. Box to box? Lampard for me, he was (IMO) underrated in many ways, he could pass like Gerrard or Beckham, score goals as if he was Alan Shearer, cover the pitch as if he was Kante, press as if he was in a LFC front 3, defend/jockey/track back/cover/intercept as if he was a Big Joe and he was consistent. Gerrard was more dynamic, but less of a player technically for me. Scholes was great, especially technically, but I think today he’s somewhat overrated or his actual abilities have been exaggerated somewhat. Toure is a great shout, but he was Pogba on speed basically and off the ball didn’t do as much as he could and should. How are we classifying Vieira in this mix? As good as any midfielder the Premier League has seen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Kimbo said: Russian teams should be banned from all European or International sports competitions. This. Get tough on them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 23 minutes ago, Colos Short and Curlies said: How are we classifying Vieira in this mix? As good as any midfielder the Premier League has seen Vieira is the best midfielder I’ve seen in the premier league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Just now, Kimbo said: Vieira is the best midfielder I’ve seen in the premier league. For all his faults, Roy Keane wasn’t too shabby either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 6 hours ago, tgarve said: Lampard was the attacking player in that trio though, Ballack was more of the box to box player I’m basing it more on his overall career at Chelsea rather than a spell with certain players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 2 hours ago, Colos Short and Curlies said: How are we classifying Vieira in this mix? As good as any midfielder the Premier League has seen Joelinton for me, but Vieira is certainly up there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 3 hours ago, Kimbo said: Russian teams should be banned from all European or International sports competitions. There's an argument this should've happened long before this. ROC my fucking hoop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Great watch… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Honestly think Kante needs to be in the discussion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Clarence Acuna for me lyk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Tiote, end of discussion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Kante is the dream midfielder for me, having him in the stating line up is half the battle won even before the kick off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Disco Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 Scored a decent amount in the cups too. Liverpool and Olympiakos spring immediately too mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 Loved Robert, but he had some absolutely infuriating games as well where he simply could not hit a single corner kick past the first man, took a shot at goal every time he was within 30m of goal to the visible disgust of his team mates, misplaced easy passes and hardly broke a sweat. His lows were as low as his highs were high, and I think a lot of the reputation he got outside of NUFC was formed by his quite frequent shockers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 2 hours ago, Conjo said: Loved Robert, but he had some absolutely infuriating games as well where he simply could not hit a single corner kick past the first man, took a shot at goal every time he was within 30m of goal to the visible disgust of his team mates, misplaced easy passes and hardly broke a sweat. His lows were as low as his highs were high, and I think a lot of the reputation he got outside of NUFC was formed by his quite frequent shockers. Watched Robert turn up for Toronto FC and dude was clearly mailing it in. Jogged a bit but would just shoot nearly every pass he got. Then again, John Carver was the head coach so that could explain it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, Disco said: Scored a decent amount in the cups too. Liverpool and Olympiakos spring immediately too mind. Sochaux & Mallorca too. Edited February 26, 2022 by Optimistic Nut Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgarve Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 7 hours ago, Conjo said: Loved Robert, but he had some absolutely infuriating games as well where he simply could not hit a single corner kick past the first man, took a shot at goal every time he was within 30m of goal to the visible disgust of his team mates, misplaced easy passes and hardly broke a sweat. His lows were as low as his highs were high, and I think a lot of the reputation he got outside of NUFC was formed by his quite frequent shockers. I don’t remember him being that bad , in fact for me he was a huge part of why we were successful in them times. He was a better player ( more output and more impact ) than Ginola and Ben Arafat who are universally loved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 Poland refusing to play Russia in next months World Cup qualifier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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