janpawel Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 8 minutes ago, Kanj said: If the season ended and we finished 5-8th, out in the LC Semis, knocked out somewhere in the last 16 of CL or later and knocked out somewhere from this next round or later in FA Cup and won nothing this year, i'd still be perfeclty happy with where things shook out. Big difference between 5th and 8th though, 5th is likely CL and 8th could be no European football at all If we got CL again this season, that would be absolutely amazing, back to back CL's whilst not being a big 6 club, 8th biggest wage bill, in Europe this season... I'm sure only City, Liverpool and Arsenal have had back to back CL qualification in recent years Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 (edited) On 08/01/2026 at 00:50, Superior Acuña said: When we were losing I decided I was going to stop having any hope for this season as it was too stressful. Although even if we'd lost, everyone's so inconsistent we'd still be in it, but I just couldn't deal with hope followed by being let down. And I'd stop doing this. Anyway we won and we're class. Us -12 (nc) ManU +9 (nc) Tottenham 0 (-1) (quite remarkable that they're exactly the same as last season, which was so shit) Villa +7 (+1) Chelsea -10 (-3) ManU +11 (+2) Chelsea -10 (nc) pending Villa +7 Us -12 Edited January 18 by Superior Acuña Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 We can't improve on that over the next 2 games at least, haven't checked further out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 (edited) This season seems quite unusual to me. There have been a lot of teams bunched around the middle to European spots. Thought I would have a look at how it compares to usual. Not sure about the best way to represent this, but here goes. Bear in mind that I am using points totals thus far (21 or 22 games played) or more accurately points per game (ppg) thus far and comparing to ppg for the whole season (38 or 42 games; 33 seasons). 1st, Arsenal on 2.27ppg. Pretty standard. Average is 2.29, 18 seasons higher, 15 seasons lower (highest 2.63, lowest 1.97). 2nd, Man City on 1.95ppg. Quite low. Average is 2.10, 25 seasons higher, 8 seasons lower (highest 2.55, lowest 1.76). 3rd, Villa on 1.95ppg. Pretty standard. Average is 1.93, 15 seasons higher, 18 seasons lower (highest 2.18, lowest 1.71). 4th, Liverpool on 1.64ppg. Very low. Average is 1.80, 31 seasons higher, 2 seasons lower (highest 2.08, lowest 1.58). 5th, Man Utd on 1.59ppg. Low. Average is 1.70, 27 seasons higher, 6 seasons lower (highest 1.97, lowest 1.47). 6th, Chelsea on 1.55. Quite low. Average is 1.62, 23 seasons higher, 10 seasons lower (highest 1.89, lowest 1.40). 7th, Brentford on 1.50ppg. Pretty standard. Average is 1.52, 17 seasons higher 16 seasons lower (highest 1.71, lowest 1.39). 8th, Sunderland on 1.50ppg. Quite high. Average is 1.44, 7 seasons higher, 26 seasons lower (highest 1.61, lowest 1.21). NUFC versus our average. currently 1.52ppg. High average. Average is 1.40, 12 seasons higher, 18 seasons lower (highest 2.05, lowest 0.89). Make of it what you will, but to me looks that if things continue as they have been, 4th or 5th place, and maybe 6th, might be achieved on unusually low points totals this year. Edited January 18 by Coffee_Johnny Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyc35i Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 46 minutes ago, Coffee_Johnny said: This season seems quite unusual to me. There have been a lot of teams bunched around the middle to European spots. Thought I would have a look at how it compares to usual. Not sure about the best way to represent this, but here goes. Bear in mind that I am using points totals thus far (21 or 22 games played) or more accurately points per game (ppg) thus far and comparing to ppg for the whole season (38 or 42 games; 33 seasons). 1st, Arsenal on 2.27ppg. Pretty standard. Average is 2.29, 18 seasons higher, 15 seasons lower (highest 2.63, lowest 1.97). 2nd, Man City on 1.95ppg. Quite low. Average is 2.10, 25 seasons higher, 8 seasons lower (highest 2.55, lowest 1.76). 3rd, Villa on 1.95ppg. Pretty standard. Average is 1.93, 15 seasons higher, 18 seasons lower (highest 2.18, lowest 1.71). 4th, Liverpool on 1.64ppg. Very low. Average is 1.80, 31 seasons higher, 2 seasons lower (highest 2.08, lowest 1.58). 5th, Man Utd on 1.59ppg. Low. Average is 1.70, 27 seasons higher, 6 seasons lower (highest 1.97, lowest 1.47). 6th, Chelsea on 1.55. Quite low. Average is 1.62, 23 seasons higher, 10 seasons lower (highest 1.89, lowest 1.40). 7th, Brentford on 1.50ppg. Pretty standard. Average is 1.52, 17 seasons higher 16 seasons lower (highest 1.71, lowest 1.39). 8th, Sunderland on 1.50ppg. Quite high. Average is 1.44, 7 seasons higher, 26 seasons lower (highest 1.61, lowest 1.21). NUFC versus our average. currently 1.52ppg. High average. Average is 1.40, 12 seasons higher, 18 seasons lower (highest 2.05, lowest 0.89). Make of it what you will, but to me looks that if things continue as they have been, 4th or 5th place, and maybe 6th, might be achieved on unusually low points totals this year. I was thinking that we need at least another 10 wins for 5th this year, but maybe we won’t Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 58 minutes ago, Coffee_Johnny said: This season seems quite unusual to me. There have been a lot of teams bunched around the middle to European spots. Thought I would have a look at how it compares to usual. Not sure about the best way to represent this, but here goes. Bear in mind that I am using points totals thus far (21 or 22 games played) or more accurately points per game (ppg) thus far and comparing to ppg for the whole season (38 or 42 games; 33 seasons). 1st, Arsenal on 2.27ppg. Pretty standard. Average is 2.29, 18 seasons higher, 15 seasons lower (highest 2.63, lowest 1.97). 2nd, Man City on 1.95ppg. Quite low. Average is 2.10, 25 seasons higher, 8 seasons lower (highest 2.55, lowest 1.76). 3rd, Villa on 1.95ppg. Pretty standard. Average is 1.93, 15 seasons higher, 18 seasons lower (highest 2.18, lowest 1.71). 4th, Liverpool on 1.64ppg. Very low. Average is 1.80, 31 seasons higher, 2 seasons lower (highest 2.08, lowest 1.58). 5th, Man Utd on 1.59ppg. Low. Average is 1.70, 27 seasons higher, 6 seasons lower (highest 1.97, lowest 1.47). 6th, Chelsea on 1.55. Quite low. Average is 1.62, 23 seasons higher, 10 seasons lower (highest 1.89, lowest 1.40). 7th, Brentford on 1.50ppg. Pretty standard. Average is 1.52, 17 seasons higher 16 seasons lower (highest 1.71, lowest 1.39). 8th, Sunderland on 1.50ppg. Quite high. Average is 1.44, 7 seasons higher, 26 seasons lower (highest 1.61, lowest 1.21). NUFC versus our average. currently 1.52ppg. High average. Average is 1.40, 12 seasons higher, 18 seasons lower (highest 2.05, lowest 0.89). Make of it what you will, but to me looks that if things continue as they have been, 4th or 5th place, and maybe 6th, might be achieved on unusually low points totals this year. If we get 5th it will be like the final SBR season where it was done with much less points than the previous two seasons Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 4 away points from Villa (when they were poor), Leeds, Bournemouth, Brighton, Brentford, West Ham, Sunderland & Wolves is piss poor. The four 0-0s should have been wins, at least a couple of draws from the defeats. About 10 points down from where we could realistically be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 On 18/01/2026 at 13:51, andyc35i said: I was thinking that we need at least another 10 wins for 5th this year, but maybe we won’t An average 5th place total is 65 points. I reckon 61 or 62 points might be enough this year. Mind you that is another 28-29 points in 16 games. Which is 1.75 ppg to 1.81 ppg. A marked improvement from the 1.50 ppg we’ve managed in the first 22 games so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 On 18/01/2026 at 17:06, Optimistic Nut said: 4 away points from Villa (when they were poor), Leeds, Bournemouth, Brighton, Brentford, West Ham, Sunderland & Wolves is piss poor. The four 0-0s should have been wins, at least a couple of draws from the defeats. About 10 points down from where we could realistically be. We'll need to win away games against the big teams to make up for the points we've dropped against the dross. Points-wise we are still doing ok, but a look at the rest of the fixture list means it's an uphill struggle to qualify for CL again. But we can still make the UEFA/Conference or wahtever they are called now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 If you win the CL you automatically qualify. That's the strat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 (edited) Matching last season's results, plus beating Everton, Bournemouth, West Ham and Brighton at home would prob qualify us for CL. That'd put us 2 points worse off than last season. Doesn't seem too likely right now. Still, it is very tight. Last season we only got 7 points from all remaining 8 away games. (3 at Tottenham, 3 at Forest, 1 at Palace, 0 at Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea, Man City, Fulham. Last season we only got 12 points from our remaining 8 home matches. 3 from Villa, Brentford, ManU, Southampton. 0 from Everton, Bournemouth, Brighton. Edited January 19 by Superior Acuña Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Imagine if we hadn't chucked away leads v Spurs and Chelsea. That's what separates the elite from the hoi polloi. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenlau88210 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 1 hour ago, The Prophet said: Imagine if we hadn't chucked away leads v Spurs and Chelsea. That's what separates the elite from the hoi polloi. Hard to imagine tbh. This is Newcastle we are talking about. We are miles below the level of the elite like City and Arsenal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Superior Acuña Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 We just can’t get any momentum for a CL push. Other teams being shit has made it easy but we never take the chance. Reckon we’ll prob come 7th. we are now -17points on like for like fixtures. Can’t be arsed tracking the others Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelofTheFourth Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 13 points away from top 3 and the bottom 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Today felt like a defining day - a must win to keep in the hunt for a CL spot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Tbh I didn't expect us to get the 10 from 12 we did prior to this league fixture. We're not a particularly slick team, the schedule is insane and we're ravaged by injuries. It's really difficult to get a hold on what our ceiling and floor is because the season, so far, is defined by most teams being unable to build consistency and the table being very changeable for that reason. Basically I wouldn't be surprised by anything from 10th to 6th. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Win all 7 at home now it's 54 points, then we have to go 3/2/3 in our remaining away games to get to 65 which will be needed for top 6 IMO. Win 6 out of 7 at home and go 2/2/4 away and it's 59 points. Probably more realistic and what can still get us Europe in 7th like we've seen in seasons gone by. Reasonable chance we get 1 point at best in next 4 away, which means winning 2 and drawing 1 away to Palace, Forest & Fulham. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 1 hour ago, Superior Acuña said: We just can’t get any momentum for a CL push. Other teams being shit has made it easy but we never take the chance. Reckon we’ll prob come 7th. we are now -17points on like for like fixtures. Can’t be arsed tracking the others Would 100% take 7th and I think that's around par, especially if we progress in the CL. Would almost certainly be Conference League, or Europa League I think if one of the top 5 win the FA Cup? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Just looked at our next 8-10 games or so. We might be able to stay in touch with the league being so all over the place. But considering we don’t win away and have just chucked in a performance like that at home. It’s hard to be confident. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Not enthused about Europa or Conference but as bang average as we are they'll likely remain a possibility until right near the end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displayname Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Think it's goodbye to any ambition of top 5 if we lose at Anfield next week. Think we are going to drop to the bottom half myself. Already done with a few of the easier games (Villa at home has usually been a free win) and the schedule aren't going to slow down any time soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Don't think top 5 was ever on. Allowing for football being daft we've never looked like warranting any better than where we are now. (Not that a couple teams that will be in the top 5 couldn't have the same said about them) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 You can't have results like this against the current top 14 sides and expect to qualify for Europe. I'm fully aware we've beaten the shite at home that's below that cut-off point but 3 wins against City, Fulham & Everton is absolutely fucking gash, don't care how you slice it we're no longer a good team nor a team whom others fear. I've read the word 'transitional season' way too many times over the last few months - performances and results have been poor for quite a while now. Transition implies change and a gradual evolution into something better - I'm not seeing that, if anything we're more predictable, dull, blunt and passive as we've ever been since Howe was appointed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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