SteV Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 Fairly crushing defeat that, morale-wise, as well as the actual result. Up to us to take advantage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 7 minutes ago, The Prophet said: I know if Villa win the EL and finish tip five, sixth is Champions League and we give up an EL spot. Is it not if Villa win the EL and finish 5th specifically? Rather than just anywhere in the top 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 9 minutes ago, Keegans Export said: Is it not if Villa win the EL and finish 5th specifically? Rather than just anywhere in the top 5 Aye because 5th is supposed to be an extra spot so it still gets rewarded independently from other qualifications. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Dancer Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 12 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Not sure on that one tbh. We do need Chelsea to lose in the FA Cup final to release that EL spot though. Apparently we can have up to 10 teams in Europe if Palace and Villa win their competitions, but surely 9th can’t qualify for Europe man that would be ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 Is it going to end up like the Copa Libertadores, where half of the Brazilian top flight qualifies? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 1 minute ago, Chicken Dancer said: Apparently we can have up to 10 teams in Europe if Palace and Villa win their competitions, but surely 9th can’t qualify for Europe man that would be ridiculous. I think the 10 included Forest, so that’s probably down to 9 now. And obv includes Palace, who likely finish bottom half. So 8th will be the lowest league place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 Got to be honest if getting in to Europe results in a season like this one, I can’t be arsed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 1 hour ago, SteV said: Fairly crushing defeat that, morale-wise, as well as the actual result. Up to us to take advantage. Bit like us with Barca - encouraging first leg then collapse. Hopefully they’re as shit in next game as we were. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmesy Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 46 minutes ago, gdm said: Got to be honest if getting in to Europe results in a season like this one, I can’t be arsed Likewise. In fact the last two. It should be a reward and something to enjoy but instead it just feels like it's a millstone around our neck. Having said that, I would fancy our chances of going far in the two lesser European competitions, which could be fun but we'd have to be ok with being shite in the league as a consequence Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guillaume Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 It looks very likely Villa and Palace are going to pick up European Trophies, why would we not want to follow them next season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black_n_white Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 We are not getting Europe man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 4 hours ago, Guillaume said: It looks very likely Villa and Palace are going to pick up European Trophies, why would we not want to follow them next season? It’s cope. 6 minutes ago, black_n_white said: We are not getting Europe man. Agreed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 2 hours ago, black_n_white said: We are not getting Europe man. Yep. I have not even clicked this thread for a while, that's how far off I feel we are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramirez Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 So its looking likely 7-8 will get in through the league and palace through conference, is that right? Presuming 6th get cl, man city win cup etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 1 hour ago, TRon said: Yep. I have not even clicked this thread for a while, that's how far off I feel we are. I absolutely think you have a chance of Europe and should try really really hard for the next two weeks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 5 minutes ago, leffe186 said: I absolutely think you have a chance of Europe and should try really really hard for the next two weeks. Aye, if we get a win on Sunday we're absolutely in the mix. I'd expect at least 4 teams above us to drop points this weekend. It's mental how compressed the table is between 8th and 16th. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 33 minutes ago, leffe186 said: I absolutely think you have a chance of Europe and should try really really hard for the next two weeks. It's not so much I think we can't win, I just don't like that we are relying on so many other teams losing. But yes, it's always possible. Part of it is me thinking we don't really deserve it, not gonna lie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 3 minutes ago, TRon said: It's not so much I think we can't win, I just don't like that we are relying on so many other teams losing. But yes, it's always possible. Part of it is me thinking we don't really deserve it, not gonna lie. If there’s one thing I’ve learned in 50 years of watching football it’s that the word “deserve” is meaningless Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 If we win our final 3 then we definitely finish above Fulham (we play them) and one of Chelsea/Sunderland (play eachother). Realistically its both of the latter 2 so that's 10th. You just don't see Everton winning 3 on the bounce at any point so that's 9th realistically. Then looking at the 3 B's, mixed bag of fixtures for them all but I reckon 9 points just scrapes Europe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 17 minutes ago, Colos Short and Curlies said: If we win our final 3 then we definitely finish above Fulham (we play them) and one of Chelsea/Sunderland (play eachother). Realistically its both of the latter 2 so that's 10th. You just don't see Everton winning 3 on the bounce at any point so that's 9th realistically. Then looking at the 3 B's, mixed bag of fixtures for them all but I reckon 9 points just scrapes Europe I've done a few predictors and we need Spurs to beat Everton most likely. I have us finishing 9th on 54 points, 1 point behind Everton and 3 behind Brighton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 While it does feel silly that we’ll probably see English clubs win both minor European trophies again, I’d forgotten how samey the Europa/UEFA has always been. Since the UEFA became the Europa, there have been 16 Europa Cups. Spanish clubs have won 9 and English clubs 4. Sevilla themselves have won 7 of the last 20. Back in the late 80s-90s Italy won 8 of 11. Twas ever thus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyc35i Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 1 hour ago, TRC said: I've done a few predictors and we need Spurs to beat Everton most likely. I have us finishing 9th on 54 points, 1 point behind Everton and 3 behind Brighton. Id take that as a top half finish to end the season on a high - but I can’t see us winning 3 games in a row from now on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 1 hour ago, andyc35i said: Id take that as a top half finish to end the season on a high - but I can’t see us winning 3 games in a row from now on Forest are knackered, West Ham are relegated and Fulham are on the beach. Easy wins Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guillaume Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 I think we've had far too many missed opportunities this season, losses against teams there for the taking and awful performances to qualify for Europe. That said, win on Sunday and we could be right in the mix. Still, it'll require us to win 4 of the last 4 league games, and 4 on the trot doesn't happen often. (1st one won last week). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 53 minutes ago, TRC said: Forest are knackered, West Ham are relegated and Fulham are on the beach. Easy wins They are probably as easy 3 games as you could expect at this stage of the season. But I still can only see us picking up 7 points at best. I just don't trust this team to go against their form book all season and suddenly win 4 in a row. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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