Kid Icarus Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: I agree, but that was too many changes and changes which seemed more scattergun than you’d normally see from Howe. Even then, we played our 30m defender, our 2 starting midfielders, our 70m star striker. Bruno, Trippier, and Almiron were on for 30 minutes. I don't accept it as the reason we lost like, the line up was more than enough to win. Isak and Wood should have scored and we paid the price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 We don’t have the squad to compete in both cups and the league imo. Not just the quality but most of those barely play any minutes in the league. Lascelles has played something like 20 minutes in 2 months. He’s not going to come in and play to his best level straight away. And the back up players that do get regular minutes (Wood, Murphy) are not good enough. What was the point in giving Dummett an extension? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 The loss could benefit us later in the season. Tuesday is just that bit more important now and the need for better squad depth clearer. We need to play our best 11 to progress to the latter stages of either cup. All in for Tuesday and use today as ammunition for transfers in key positions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 1 minute ago, Yorkie said: Anyone travelling daft enough to expect anything other than a significantly altered line-up probably deserves to have the piss taken out of them. Besides, the travelling support have been treated fairly okay this season with 5 wins, 4 draws and 2 defeats. Bit harsh on people spending good money to go and watch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 Dubravka: 6 Manquillo: 7 Lascelles: 5 Botman: 6 Lewis: 4 Longstaff: 7 Joelinton: 7 Anderson: 5 Ritchie: 7 Isak: 6 Murphy: 4 Bruno: 7 Trippier: 7 Wood: 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 I assume that those advocating for a strong side aren't too arsed about the League Cup quarter final or being fresh for Fulham? You need to rotate at some stage Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, et tu brute said: It was totally obvious this would happen with that many changes. I'm really pissed off with that starting lineup today. That took the piss out of 4500 fans paying good money today. Partly agree but it's not like Eddie picked youngsters or U21s to play. He picked players he thought that could genuinely win us the match. The players that came in, all had PL experience and were no strangers to the squad. Only thing now obvious is that Eddie cannot simply reply on these players anymore than he has previously. Wood, Murphy, Lewis, Lascelles, Dubravka were my ultimate dissapointment when we relied on them the most. Ritchie and Manquillo I would regard them as doing what was expected of them. Edited January 7, 2023 by nufcjb Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Puppets Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 Just now, Beth said: Murphy? Ritchie? Anderson is clearly not reay yet either. If you can name the players you’d start in their place, considering we have a cup quarter final in 3 days, be my guest. Ritchie played fine, as did Anderson. Wood, Lewis and Murphy were dogshit though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizza Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: Not sure about the 'credit to Sheff Wed' posts mind. Their 'keeper aside I thought they were extremely lucky to get a win there. Given that their first goal was massively offside and would've been ruled out by VAR I'd agree. They got very lucky. Edited January 7, 2023 by Bizza Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 Just now, Kid Icarus said: Even then, we played our 30m defender, our 2 starting midfielders, our 70m star striker. Bruno, Trippier, and Almiron were on for 30 minutes. I don't accept it as the reason we lost like, the line up was more than enough to win. Isak and Wood should have scored and we paid the price. Yep, was really similar to Cambridge. Should've progressed but missed our chances and that was that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 1 minute ago, Shadow Puppets said: Get a grip. The starting 11 was absolutely fine, barring Lewis. Not sure it was to be honest. We had 3-4 1st team starters today. Ok the team we put out should have still been able to win and would have done if we had VAR or decent officials, however those who got their chance fucking wasted it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 I feel better that there's people here who can keep our emotions in check Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 1 minute ago, The Prophet said: I assume that those advocating for a strong side aren't too arsed about the League Cup quarter final or being fresh for Fulham? You need to rotate at some stage This. This and more This. Our squad isn't capable of fighting on 3 fronts yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 1 minute ago, Kid Icarus said: Even then, we played our 30m defender, our 2 starting midfielders, our 70m star striker. Bruno, Trippier, and Almiron were on for 30 minutes. I don't accept it as the reason we lost like, the line up was more than enough to win. Isak and Wood should have scored and we paid the price. Yep, ultimately you’re right like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair Pundit Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 5 minutes ago, STM said: I see a few in here can't control their emotions. We lost because; 1. Howe started a few squad players, which he HAD to otherwise we would have suffered in the league Cup. 2. Poor finishing. 3. An offside decision. It still doesn't make it acceptable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancing Brave Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 Fair play to Sheff Wed, they deserved the win. Eddie gambled with the starting line up but it didn't and never looked like working. Never mind, League Cup is still up for grabs. The need to strengthen the squad is there for all to see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King HTT III Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 I’m annoyed mainly because I now care and if we get a home tie, it’s a chance to drag myself to a game with my boys. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 On the plus side, can’t wait to see Isak play with a full strength side behind him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 29 minutes ago, nufcnick said: Not disappointed at all if we go out, shows the owners we have absolutely nothing beyond our starting 11 and it’s also a break in a heavy schedule Spot on - for me it was a walk down memory lane to a time when we had dubs and lascelles in every week and we were always waiting for the two goals. i remember when we bought pope and a lot of people (myself included) saying it was an unnecessary purchase. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 1 minute ago, nufcjb said: Partly agree but it's not like Eddie picked youngsters or U21s to play. He picked players he thought that could genuinely win us the match. The players that came in, all had PL experience and were no strangers to the squad. Only thing now obvious is that Eddie cannot simply reply on these players anymore than he has previously. Wood, Murphy, Lewis, Lascelles, Dubravka were my ultimate dissapointment when we relied on them the most. Ritchie and Manquillo I would regard them as doing what was expected of them. No excuse we all know those players are not good enough in the first place and to change nearly the entire lineup with those players was a piss take imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 Just now, Gawalls said: i remember when we bought pope and a lot of people (myself included) saying it was an unnecessary purchase. Who the fuck said that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 Until we strengthen the squad we are never going to compete and get past these top 4 clubs. Clearly Wednesday deserved to be 2nd in the league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisMcQuillan Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 Dubravka: 6 Manquillo: 6 Lascelles: 5 Botman: 6.5 Lewis: 3 Longstaff: 6.5 Joelinton: 7 Anderson: 5 Ritchie: 6 Isak: 6.5 Murphy: 1 Bruno: 6 Trippier: 7.5 Almiron: 5 Willock: 5 Wood: 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King HTT III Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 Just now, Dancing Brave said: Fair play to Sheff Wed, they deserved the win. Eddie gambled with the starting line up but it didn't and never looked like working. Never mind, League Cup is still up for grabs. The need to strengthen the squad is there for all to see. Aye full credit to them, they were superb and so was their game plan, god knows what ours was, our pressing game was missing and towards the end we were just rushing everything and hoping something would stick from set pieces. I’m happy for the Geordie lad in their team and the Sheff Wed supporter on here and I really like Darren Moore, who was harshly let go at WBA IMO. It’s good to see a black manager doing well in the game, and let’s be fair, they are a pretty decent sized club with a rich history. I hope they get promotion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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