Loki679 Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 Just no PL players please. Overpriced and overrated, look elsewhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 You’ve seen what PL teams (and players) have been doing in Europe, no? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmesy Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 16 minutes ago, McCormick said: You’ve seen what PL teams (and players) have been doing in Europe, no? You've seen what Bournemouth, Brentford and Brighton have done by scouting outside of the PL, right? We can't shop at the top table - the cartel clubs just hoover up the best PL players. We need to stop signing the next tier down because they're PL-experienced, and start taking chances on players from other leagues/countries. There's a reason we had a free run at players like Elanga and Ramsey - none of the cartel clubs wanted them. Why? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 We hired a South American specialist scout earlier this year when Wilson came in, he brought him from Forest. Would make sense if we're ready to start making some moves in that market. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 21 minutes ago, Holmesy said: You've seen what Bournemouth, Brentford and Brighton have done by scouting outside of the PL, right? We can't shop at the top table - the cartel clubs just hoover up the best PL players. We need to stop signing the next tier down because they're PL-experienced, and start taking chances on players from other leagues/countries. There's a reason we had a free run at players like Elanga and Ramsey - none of the cartel clubs wanted them. Why? I’ve seen them achieve fuck all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmesy Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 (edited) 24 minutes ago, McCormick said: I’ve seen them achieve fuck all. And we've achieved what exactly, apart from going backwards? Bournemouth and Brentford are above us in the league and play better football than us, having spent a hell of a lot less. Brighton haven't the best season but no one can deny their scouting and acquisition model has been a success. Edited March 9 by Holmesy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 8 minutes ago, McCormick said: I’ve seen them achieve fuck all. Preach Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagPar Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 22 hours ago, The Prophet said: I'd be amazed if we let four first team players leave in one summer. It might not be up to the manager/club. If the players want to leave there isn't much the club can do except for getting the best price possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagPar Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 36 minutes ago, McCormick said: I’ve seen them achieve fuck all. Except play well above their means and remain staples of the EPL instead of being yo-yo clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmesy Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 1 minute ago, MagPar said: Except play well above their means and remain staples of the EPL instead of being yo-yo clubs. Preach Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 We need to take lessons from the southern spreadsheet clubs but we also need to aim much higher than them. It’s an easy point to say we should just focus on second tier players, but we have bigger ambitions than that. With the quality we have now we should be able to add a mix of squad and starter players hopefully, to make us more consistent. That combined with a much easier fixture list should make for a good season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 53 minutes ago, Holmesy said: And we've achieved what exactly, apart from going backwards? Bournemouth and Brentford are above us in the league and play better football than us, having spent a hell of a lot less. Brighton haven't the best season but no one can deny their scouting and acquisition model has been a success. Seriously? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 On 08/03/2026 at 08:49, SUPERTOON said: What are peoples thoughts on order of priority for the summer, as things stand? I would go: GK Striker RW Worried replacement centre mid and right back will become top priority. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 Bruno, Joelinton, Isak, Botman, and Thiaw all came from European clubs and aside from Hall, and Miley they have arguably been our best players in recent seasons. The question is would you rather spend £40m for another Bruno from Europe, or £40m for another Elanga or Wissa from a Premier League club? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 59 minutes ago, Holmesy said: And we've achieved what exactly, apart from going backwards? Bournemouth and Brentford are above us in the league and play better football than us, having spent a hell of a lot less. Brighton haven't the best season but no one can deny their scouting and acquisition model has been a success. You are becoming very, errr, entertaining, Holmesy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennyUtd Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 3 minutes ago, Coffee_Johnny said: You are becoming very, errr, entertaining, Holmesy. That's not how you spell predictable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 Just now, KennyUtd said: That's not how you spell predictable. Think I really meant exasperating 😉 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 (edited) Brighton’s model is collapsing or at best it has a very limited ceiling. They’re now at the point where they’re not really finding players who are good enough - or will ever be good enough - to play at the level required to progress. Watson 12m - loaned out Coppola 12m - loaned out Gruda 28m - loaned out O’Reilly 25m - loaned out Osman 15m - loaned out Cashin 7m - loaned out Yalcouye 5m - loaned out Tzimas 25m - no starts now injured Barco 8m - sold small loss Buonanotte 5m - loaned out Adingra 10m - profit Enciso 5m - profit Igor Julio 15m - loaned out They will turn/have turned a profit on some of these but that is the scope of their success. Absolutely nothing model that we should only look to replicate if we’re wanting to finish consistently mid-table alongside them. edit: the truth is that if you want reliably PL quality signings then you will need to be spending £40m a pop. Edited March 9 by Smal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 55 minutes ago, MagPar said: It might not be up to the manager/club. If the players want to leave there isn't much the club can do except for getting the best price possible. The club can say no. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Smal said: Brighton’s model is collapsing or at best it has a very limited ceiling. They’re now at the point where they’re not really finding players who are good enough - or will ever be good enough - to play at the level required to progress. Watson 12m - loaned out Coppola 12m - loaned out Gruda 28m - loaned out O’Reilly 25m - loaned out Osman 15m - loaned out Cashin 7m - loaned out Yalcouye 5m - loaned out Tzimas 25m - no starts now injured Barco 8m - sold small loss Buonanotte 5m - loaned out Adingra 10m - profit Enciso 5m - profit Igor Julio 15m - loaned out They will turn/have turned a profit on some of these but that is the scope of their success. Absolutely nothing model that we should only look to replicate if we’re wanting to finish consistently mid-table alongside them. edit: the truth is that if you want reliably PL quality signings then you will need to be spending £40m a pop. In modern football you can only exploit undervalued markets or types of players for a certain amount of time everybody else catches up. And that period is going to get shorter and shorter. Every team has an entire office full of people crunching the numbers on this stuff now. It's impossibly hard to find hidden gems that others missed to begin with, even harder to keep doing it consistently. The way good recruiting teams are able to differentiate themselves today is going to be negotiations, relationship building, PSR management, and helping players succeed once they're already in the door. Edited March 9 by oldtype Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 Also being overlooked is the fact that Howe is very strict on bringing in those who he can get solid references on, harder to that with players from South America and such unless you build up the contacts there. People always quote ‘PL experience’ but for me it’s as much about knowing the character of the player, which is obviously easier to do with a player people in the league already know. The no toxic personality thing is huge, look at Spurs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 1 hour ago, Holmesy said: And we've achieved what exactly, apart from going backwards? Bournemouth and Brentford are above us in the league and play better football than us, having spent a hell of a lot less. Brighton haven't the best season but no one can deny their scouting and acquisition model has been a success. Brighton have a few exceptions (mainly the ones sold to Chelsea), but Wissa & Kerkez for example have went from these clubs to CL clubs and failed. Maybe they go to Brentford & Bournemouth for a reason? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 Brentford, Brighton, Bournemouth have done great but its not much more than the Ashley project but with effort. Sell, buy cheaper replacements, tread water. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 54 minutes ago, Stifler said: The question is would you rather spend £40m for another Bruno from Europe, or £40m for another Elanga or Wissa from a Premier League club? That's not the question at all, that's just comparing past signings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 We need to take more pints on lower cost signings from abroad we can either eventually form a part of our squad or sell on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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