Kimbo Posted November 20, 2025 Share Posted November 20, 2025 Young PL players get more expensive every year and PSR limits aren’t increasing. I think if we were signing Hall and Livramento last summer it would’ve been £50m+ each. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted November 20, 2025 Share Posted November 20, 2025 5 hours ago, McCormick said: To be fair, my point was that we should keep targeting the best young Premier League players we can realistically afford or attract. Someone like Wharton doesn’t seem especially realistic financially, but there are others who would be. Elanga was that player. Worked well so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted November 20, 2025 Share Posted November 20, 2025 I don't think there's a good market for middling prem players anymore that can step up. You are needing to pay top dollar, so unless you are an established elite side who can afford to do that, likes of us need to be more creative. Ramsey / Wissa / Elanga were daft fees, there's no two ways about it. Hopefully we get a return over time, but it's not a business model that's sustainable moving forward. Market needs to be young players where pathway is blocked for Prem elite and abroad. Banged the drum loads about the English youth pool being stupidly strong in depth, and that's what we need to captalise on whilst we're in this 8-6 club range where pressure is off for now. If it means losing someone like Tonali in the future because our progress is not moving forward at speed to challenge the title, so be it. Because if we add another 3-4 Halls/Tinos to this squad, over next 24 months, the bar will naturally rise where then adding a future Tonali etc. is what then pushes us to a title challenge. Signing the players we did this summer gone won't ever take us that next step. It's just a very expensive outlay to remain where we are, where if it was younger players we wouldn't be worse off because our bottom floor is top 8. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted November 20, 2025 Share Posted November 20, 2025 6 hours ago, McCormick said: To be fair, my point was that we should keep targeting the best young Premier League players we can realistically afford or attract. Someone like Wharton doesn’t seem especially realistic financially, but there are others who would be. We were very close to Wharton before he went to Palace but PSR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted November 20, 2025 Share Posted November 20, 2025 4 hours ago, Kimbo said: Young PL players get more expensive every year and PSR limits aren’t increasing. I think if we were signing Hall and Livramento last summer it would’ve been £50m+ each. Disagree. Dibling is someone who's like Tino situation, went for £35m. That's still expensive for someone that's more potential than short term output, but it's never going to be £50m+ Not really a Lewis Hall type of transfer this summer gone because they are rare, but maybe Doak closest (in terms of pathway cut off for a top 5 side) and that was similar to what we paid for Hall. Those type of players will have a ceiling value because of three things. 1) Limited pathway to first team, so value only going to drop. 2) Likely a short length on contract because player has held of signing a new deal which is linked to point 1. 3) It's pure PSR profit, so £20m+ is great money for those clubs, as they will see it in their eyes 'plenty more in the pipeline'. Josh Acheampong is the one I've wanted for past 12 months, but him signing that new contract last Xmas was a killer after he was dangled the first team chances. But then this season he's in for a run, then out again. So might be a player Chelsea look to cash in next summer, similar to Tyrique George. Chelsea just a weird club. Man Utd got a very good crop coming through soon which will be worth keeping an eye on. Someone like Shae Lacey for example is talented, but spending big on Cunha / Mbuemo, and potentially again in summer, could close of a pathway for him. Probably harder to entice players away from Man Utd at a young age if they're fans, because once they leave, it's highly unlikely they will ever have chance to go back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted November 20, 2025 Share Posted November 20, 2025 1 hour ago, Shearergol said: Elanga was that player. Worked well so far. That’s 1 (and very early days) any more? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted November 20, 2025 Share Posted November 20, 2025 47 minutes ago, McCormick said: That’s 1 (and very early days) any more? I mean there's examples both ways - Gordon isn't exactly pulling up trees at the moment either. Ramsey is a "time will tell". Barnes was perhaps 2-3 years too late. On the flip side, Thiaw looks like the signing of the season. I don't think we should have a rule on where we buy players from, it's more about finding the right player, surely? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted November 20, 2025 Share Posted November 20, 2025 1 hour ago, Shearergol said: I mean there's examples both ways - Gordon isn't exactly pulling up trees at the moment either. Ramsey is a "time will tell". Barnes was perhaps 2-3 years too late. On the flip side, Thiaw looks like the signing of the season. I don't think we should have a rule on where we buy players from, it's more about finding the right player, surely? Nah, I’m with you for the most part. Honestly, my point is we just need to keep doing what we’re doing; it’s working and there’s no need to overthink things. But on Gordon, I’ve got to disagree. He’s seriously overhated imo. And if we ever decide to sell, he’s going for at least 40% more than what we paid. I’m fully confident in that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted November 20, 2025 Share Posted November 20, 2025 Ruben Neves linked with us & Man Utd for around £17m. Yes please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpie Mover Posted November 20, 2025 Share Posted November 20, 2025 In the BBC transfer gossip. Manchester United are eyeing Elliot Anderson, 23, as a possible replacement for Brazil international Casemiro, 33, but face competition from Liverpool and Newcastle for the £100m-rated England and Nottingham Forest midfielder. (Times - subscription required, external) Manchester City could offer Trafford to Newcastle in a player-plus-cash deal to secure the services of 23-year-old England full-back Tino Livramento. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted November 21, 2025 Share Posted November 21, 2025 4 hours ago, Magpie Mover said: In the BBC transfer gossip. Manchester United are eyeing Elliot Anderson, 23, as a possible replacement for Brazil international Casemiro, 33, but face competition from Liverpool and Newcastle for the £100m-rated England and Nottingham Forest midfielder. (Times - subscription required, external) Manchester City could offer Trafford to Newcastle in a player-plus-cash deal to secure the services of 23-year-old England full-back Tino Livramento. They can fuck themselves into the sun with regards to Tino Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted November 21, 2025 Share Posted November 21, 2025 7 hours ago, Optimistic Nut said: Ruben Neves linked with us & Man Utd for around £17m. Yes please. That would be an excellent signing, kind of just what we need Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted November 21, 2025 Share Posted November 21, 2025 He's slower than Bruno, if possible. Don't think that would be a good match. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 21, 2025 Share Posted November 21, 2025 Would’ve taken him from Wolves but no idea at all now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAK Posted November 21, 2025 Share Posted November 21, 2025 Neves hasn’t been playing at an elite level for two years now, does he still have it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zaius Posted November 21, 2025 Share Posted November 21, 2025 Only 28 like and was class a few years ago. Wages would be massive though so I cant see it. Feels very Man Utd and not in a good way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted November 21, 2025 Share Posted November 21, 2025 It's the right kind of player we need for the midfield mix, though. An encouraging link if it's got any truth in it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 21, 2025 Share Posted November 21, 2025 He’s getting nearly 300k a week in Saudi. Although I guess he would understand he’s not getting that anywhere else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted November 21, 2025 Share Posted November 21, 2025 13 hours ago, Magpie Mover said: Manchester City could offer Trafford to Newcastle in a player-plus-cash deal oh, the thing that never happens? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted November 21, 2025 Share Posted November 21, 2025 (edited) 14 hours ago, Magpie Mover said: Manchester City could offer Trafford to Newcastle in a player-plus-cash deal to secure the services of 23-year-old England full-back Tino Livramento. Edited November 21, 2025 by Fak Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted November 21, 2025 Share Posted November 21, 2025 Like swapping emeralds for lab grown diamonds Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagPar Posted November 21, 2025 Share Posted November 21, 2025 No way are we in the race for Anderson at the prices being quoted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted November 22, 2025 Share Posted November 22, 2025 Downie reckons we'll sign a striker in Jan. Also says 'a few names already doing the rounds'. Who? I haven't seen any? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennyUtd Posted November 22, 2025 Share Posted November 22, 2025 4 minutes ago, lovejoy said: Downie reckons we'll sign a striker in Jan. Also says 'a few names already doing the rounds'. Who? I haven't seen any? Adam Armstrong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted November 22, 2025 Share Posted November 22, 2025 4 minutes ago, lovejoy said: Downie reckons we'll sign a striker in Jan. Also says 'a few names already doing the rounds'. Who? I haven't seen any? Only seen that player from Brazil. Never seem to be true though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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