SteV Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 Does the obligation thing actually help with FFP? Someone in the replies to Edwards is saying it doesn’t, and it would get counted in this year’s spending? Which would mean the only benefit of doing a deal like that is related to cash flow, which surely isn’t an issue to us? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaztoon Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 Edwards as had a nightmare this window..proper ego killer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, Gaztoon said: Edwards as had a nightmare this window..proper ego killer Just this window? I wonder if we tell him all the stuff that’s not true, or if he’s just left guessing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 1 minute ago, SteV said: Does the obligation thing actually help with FFP? Someone in the replies to Edwards is saying it doesn’t, and it would get counted in this year’s spending? Which would mean the only benefit of doing a deal like that is related to cash flow, which surely isn’t an issue to us? Uefa has since clarified FFP rules to state that loan deals with “conditional obligation to buy [that is] virtually certain . . . must be recognised by both clubs as a permanent transfer from the inception of the loan agreement”. https://www.ft.com/content/9bd82b30-caf2-11e9-a1f4-3669401ba76f No idea if it differs to the PL rules, know they're not always aligned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaztoon Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, Stifler said: Just this window? I wonder if we tell him all the stuff that’s not true, or if he’s just left guessing. Could picture ashworth laughing when he broke the barella rumour 🤣 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnbull2000 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 (edited) Have we had an eye on this lad for a while? It's been quite reassuring amongst the wider transfer chaos that our buys have seemingly been carefully researched and planned. All I seem to see with Man U, Chelsea and Pool is a mad scramble of rival bids and and panic bought alternatives. Still, £28 mill for a largely untested kid is madness! Edited August 17, 2023 by Turnbull2000 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 Lads, we're not a tinpot club anymore, you can rest assured we've had the best of the best looking at how to circumvent the rules and account for it. Yes, it's the players that make the difference, but the club (and it already is tbf) should be credited for it's off the field appointments. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocker Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, Turnbull2000 said: Have we had an eye on this lad for a while? It's been quite reassuring amongst the wider transfer chaos that our buys have seemingly been carefully researched and planned. All I seem to see with Man U, Chelsea and Pool is a mad scramble of rival bids and and panic bought alternatives. Still, £28 mill for a largely untested kid is madness! I think it's cheap in the current climate of fucking honking prices. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Since 1882 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 Chelsea could be going into this season with a solid amount of their squad coming from their academy over past few years, but instead have just a squad of players brought in for close to a £1Bn? and in no better position for it. Can date this problem going back to losing De Bruyne, Lukaku first time round. Not to say every player has to be the best, but you need a balanced squad - for every Bruno/Tonali, Longstaff has their place. Would boil my piss if I was a Chelsea fan to see players come through the academy, loaned out and then just leave. FFP or not, worth billions or not - surely it's still financially better however rich you are to not have to continually have to sell Peter, to buy Paul. £113M on Lukaku, just to replace Tammy Abraham sold for £40M... Christansen, Tomori, Geuhi all leaving close to one another, replaced with £300-£350M odd on Badiashile, Koulibaly, Fofano, Disasi. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 4 hours ago, Alan Pardew said: I can imagine him as a young lad watching us on the telly beat Manchester United 3-0 and beating Chelsea 2-0. Getting 5th and a wonderful EL run as well. That quarter final lads. So close. Could possibly be what inspired the lad to become a footballer in the first place. I hope young Eddie sees the potential and signs him. You’re welcome. The King never misses. Think I’ll go for a big lunch today. See ya later. Thank you Alan Pardew. The Lewis Hall signing rebuilds your reputation among NUFC fans. Come to the next home game. Come be applauded, King. Enjoy your meal, and presumably the meal of anyone in the vicinity who ordered well. @AyeDubbleYoo, you were right. Apologies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, Rocker said: I think it's cheap in the current climate of fucking honking prices. Chuckwuemeka went for 20m at 18 in the final year of his contract. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 36 minutes ago, Zero said: Obviously Chelsea management doesn’t really rate Hall though Must be why they refused to sell him earlier in the window when they didn't need to, and are now asking £30 million for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 1 minute ago, KaKa said: Must be why they refused to sell him earlier in the window when they didn't need to, and are now asking £30 million for him. Poche opt to play Ian Maatsen instead of him. seriously if they think Hall is that fucking good they would just loan to Crystal Palace for a year, just like Colwill. not saying I don’t rate Hall though. I am very excited we grab him at such a price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 1 minute ago, Zero said: Poche opt to play Ian Maatsen instead of him. seriously if they think Hall is that fucking good they would just loan to Crystal Palace for a year, just like Colwill. not saying I don’t rate Hall though. I am very excited we grab him at such a price. Try reading the thread. They have to sell to raise money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, Zero said: Poche opt to play Ian Maatsen instead of him. seriously if they think Hall is that fucking good they would just loan to Crystal Palace for a year, just like Colwill. not saying I don’t rate Hall though. I am very excited we grab him at such a price. Which teams are after Maatsen and would his fee be as big as Halls? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vicente_14 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 7 minutes ago, Zero said: Poche opt to play Ian Maatsen instead of him. seriously if they think Hall is that fucking good they would just loan to Crystal Palace for a year, just like Colwill. not saying I don’t rate Hall though. I am very excited we grab him at such a price. They originally planned to tie him down to a 6 year contract and loan him to Palace. Seems the contract was withdrawn as they realised they needed to bring funds in for FFP reasons. And from reading some reports, the player wanted us once we became an option rather than a loan to Palace. (sensible lad!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 Hope we wrap it up today after Edwards said he reckons it will go down to the wire Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 It seems another one of those where the overall fee has been agreed, but we're still sorting out the finer details. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 32 minutes ago, Anderson said: Uefa has since clarified FFP rules to state that loan deals with “conditional obligation to buy [that is] virtually certain . . . must be recognised by both clubs as a permanent transfer from the inception of the loan agreement”. https://www.ft.com/content/9bd82b30-caf2-11e9-a1f4-3669401ba76f No idea if it differs to the PL rules, know they're not always aligned. Wonder where an "obligation if certain criteria are met" stands with this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 38 minutes ago, Turnbull2000 said: Have we had an eye on this lad for a while? It's been quite reassuring amongst the wider transfer chaos that our buys have seemingly been carefully researched and planned. All I seem to see with Man U, Chelsea and Pool is a mad scramble of rival bids and and panic bought alternatives. Still, £28 mill for a largely untested kid is madness! James Trafford went to Burnley for £19m and he'd only ever played league 1 football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 Is Pizza Rob considered tier 1 now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobsonsWonderland Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 We are not just building a strong first team but a quality squad. The drop off from first 11 to the bench is getting tighter and that's going to make a massive difference this year. Will only benefit the group Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, GeordieDazzler said: Is Pizza Rob considered tier 1 now? got to acknowledge Ando for this one too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 He's obviously raw, and I doubt he'll dislodge Burn this season, but he's one of the most promising left backs out there. Him and Livramento could feasibly be Englands starting fullbacks in a few year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, GeordieDazzler said: Is Pizza Rob considered tier 1 now? Ahem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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