Anthony Elanga

[Dr.Spaceman]

3 minutes ago, Andy84 said:

I’ve heard plenty of grumbling at the match which is getting louder with him, plus social media is all over it, he will see/hear and be told about these things.  So no it’s just not on a forum 

 

 

 

 

We're not able to speak for people on other platforms or all those who go to the ground. Those who pay to go week in week out are entitled to their opinion, regardless of whether or not you agree with it.

[The Prophet]

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but getting stuck into players at the match doesn't scream "supporter".

[TheBrownBottle]

7 minutes ago, Andy84 said:

Shit loads do though in that ground 

They used to when I was there - it’s the mumbling and grumbling which is the worst.  But that’s nowt to do with what people write on here.  

[The College Dropout]

1 hour ago, The Prophet said:

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but getting stuck into players at the match doesn't scream "supporter".

Agreed.  At the stadium he needs support. On social media too. 
 

It is hard for match going fan to watch a premier league football not be able to control a football. I don’t agree with it and I don’t think it’s right. But I’m not mad at them

[Andy84]

2 hours ago, Dr.Spaceman said:

 

We're not able to speak for people on other platforms or all those who go to the ground. Those who pay to go week in week out are entitled to their opinion, regardless of whether or not you agree with it.

Absolutely. But sometimes as

a collective fanbase I feel we, and I know it’s not everyone, are quick to jump on players backs and not support them 

[Chicken Dancer]

2 hours ago, RUHRLYASLEEVESUP said:

You're not a fan of his  ? 

I really want to be, but I wasn’t too keen on the signing to begin with. I want him to end up class I just cannot see it whatsoever based on the evidence so far. 
 

In a position like ours when we have to really watch what we spend from a PSR perspective, £55m will probably be Tier A - of players we can afford. Certainly what the budget will stretch to. 
 

He played for a team that predominantly sat back and hit teams with pace on the break (very successfully I will say). For a team like us when the onus is to take the game to the opposition in probably 75% of the games we play, he just doesn’t suit it at all. 
 

I said it at the time but I’d have been far more comfortable buying two players for £55m and hoping for a similar outlay in terms of stats and overall impact on the team. 4 months in and it wouldn’t have been too hard to achieve that. 

[Dr.Spaceman]

8 hours ago, Andy84 said:

Absolutely. But sometimes as

a collective fanbase I feel we, and I know it’s not everyone, are quick to jump on players backs and not support them 

 

In what way that matters though? I don't think we do it too quickly in the ground, collectively anyway. You'll always get the odd person calling someone from the off.

[gbandit]

Generally I think the negativity in the stands doesn’t translate to individual players on the pitch. It obviously does happen but on the whole I’d say the crowd either has a neutral impact or a positive impact

[TheBrownBottle]

5 minutes ago, gbandit said:

Generally I think the negativity in the stands doesn’t translate to individual players on the pitch. It obviously does happen but on the whole I’d say the crowd either has a neutral impact or a positive impact

Yeah, I think too much of it is made by the support - it gives passive attendees a sense that they’re ‘part’ of it.  If shit atmospheres made a difference then Arsenal would be as successful as Leyton Orient.  

[Abacus]

I did idly wonder if we were just set on Elanga a year ago and then just didn't update what we were after, given the summer's disruption. 

 

Anyway, personally not prepared to give up on him so soon, but in a kind light it does look the case that he's not being able to show what he might be able to do - whether that's due to the system, his confidence, or the general underperformance of the team, perhaps a combination of those, I'm not sure.

 

There are some basics for him that most aren't getting right in the whole team either.

 

Take the derby, as we must. You might have expected them to have come out of the traps at the start hoping to use the home atmosphere, so you'd need to shore up at the back and then hit them on the break with either of our pacy wingers and then get further forward later in the game when the quality gap should show. Doesn't sound a terrible plan on paper, if that was indeed the plan.

 

It didn't play out that way obviously, we just got drawn into a slog, and neither winger had a good game, compounded by Wolte not really being set up to play that way in the first place and getting no support.

 

The whole frontline isn't set up to play together yet and that lack of coherence up front seems to be creeping back into an increasingly frustrated midfield. What are they supposed to do?

 

It also clearly wasn't the right occasion for Elanga to play given his performances to date and likely confidence going into it, but that's obviously hindsight.

 

He needs at least a short spell out of the team with a few sub appearances to take the load off Murphy. Wouldn't be sticking Gordon in at right wing to replace him, or actually even Gordon starting on the left for a while either, at this point.

 

Not meaning to single out players when the whole team isn't quite right and it's not all coming from just one person making mistakes or having bad games.

[The College Dropout]

There's definitely groans at home when he miscontrols a ball and it goes out of play which doesn't help him at all.

 

But it's also piss poor from a £55m signing. I remember he did it in a game where he had lost the ball cheaply a few times just before.

 

It has has happened to Murphy too. He has those games/moments where he gives the ball away cheaply time and again and the crowd groan. I've also seen him then turn around and get an assist or deliver a quality ball and motion to the fans to get off his back.

 

As much stick as I give Gordon. It happens to him far less because he's technically pretty sound. In terms of first touch, getting the ball under control. He can also be careless in position but it's rarer than Murphy/Elanga. It doesn't happen to Barnes much because he's just better at the basics. I guess i'm saying it happens for a reason - he's playing especially shit.

[wyn davies]

Who was responseable for his purchase, and if its two family members then should they be given the funds to spend in January without ditching the old  bodies first.

[huss9]

16 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

There's definitely groans at home when he miscontrols a ball and it goes out of play which doesn't help him at all.

 

But it's also piss poor from a £55m signing. I remember he did it in a game where he had lost the ball cheaply a few times just before.

 

It has has happened to Murphy too. He has those games/moments where he gives the ball away cheaply time and again and the crowd groan. I've also seen him then turn around and get an assist or deliver a quality ball and motion to the fans to get off his back.

 

As much stick as I give Gordon. It happens to him far less because he's technically pretty sound. In terms of first touch, getting the ball under control. He can also be careless in position but it's rarer than Murphy/Elanga. It doesn't happen to Barnes much because he's just better at the basics. I guess i'm saying it happens for a reason - he's playing especially shit.

Guaranteed if Gordon repeats that trick of knocking it past the full back and then straight out with his second that he did against sunderland, he wont get the stick that Elanga would get if he did the same.

 

 

 

[St1pe]

11 minutes ago, wyn davies said:

Who was responseable for his purchase, and if its two family members then should they be given the funds to spend in January without ditching the old  bodies first.

It’s not hard to see why we signed him. His profile is exactly how we operate and his goals/assists were good for Forest. 
 

Aside from a few flashes he’s been shite though and that’s undeniable. 

[lovejoy]

51 minutes ago, wyn davies said:

Who was responseable for his purchase, and if its two family members then should they be given the funds to spend in January without ditching the old  bodies first.

eh?

[Wallsendmag]

14 hours ago, The Prophet said:

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but getting stuck into players at the match doesn't scream "supporter".

 

I've got some news for you here but a lot of people who go to the match aren't what you'd call "supporters" in the dictionary definition of the word.

 

If you're there tonight you take a good look around you and see how many people are actively "supporting". By this I mean vocally supporting the players whether that be in song, or roaring them on, applauding good play or a good tackle. 

 

You'd be surprised but the % is actually quite low. There's plenty there in the, sit in silence with arms folded for the entirity category, and those who are far quicker to moan and grumble over bad play or a mistake than they are muster any sort of enthusiasm for positive stuff.

 

I can't stand Graeme Souness but probably the only thing he got right in his time here was when he commented that there are 30k supporters who attend and the rest are customers. I'd say that 30k figure is a lot less than it was 20 years ago as well.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

3 hours ago, gbandit said:

Generally I think the negativity in the stands doesn’t translate to individual players on the pitch. It obviously does happen but on the whole I’d say the crowd either has a neutral impact or a positive impact

 

Hmmmmm.

[lovejoy]

3 hours ago, gbandit said:

Generally I think the negativity in the stands doesn’t translate to individual players on the pitch. It obviously does happen but on the whole I’d say the crowd either has a neutral impact or a positive impact

 

I'd say the opposite, personally.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

It goes both ways I would say, SJP is a hard place to play when you're not doing well. Whether that's team or just individuals... I guess we can carry a couple of bad individual performances as long as the team is winning. If not then the whinging will intensify. 

 

 

Edited December 17, 2025 by AyeDubbleYoo

[The College Dropout]

1 hour ago, St1pe said:

It’s not hard to see why we signed him. His profile is exactly how we operate and his goals/assists were good for Forest. 
 

Aside from a few flashes he’s been shite though and that’s undeniable. 

Nah it’s an awful signing at £55m and someone’s influence or job should be questioned. 
 

I didn’t pay that much attention to him at Forest. But within 2 games at NUFC I could see this wasn’t what we needed.  You can see he’s technically so poor. 
 

It’s an Antony level signing. Same thing.  Could tell very early he’s not worth £80m.  

[The College Dropout]

In defence of the home crowd.  It’s rare for a team with that much support to be so bad in our history.  

[TaylorJ_01]

1 hour ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

It goes both ways I would say, SJP is a hard place to play when you're not doing well. Whether that's team or just individuals... I guess we can carry a couple of bad individual performances as long as the team is winning. If not then the whinging will intensify. 

 

 

 

 

Crowd will forgive a lot if they can sense the effort and players who are trying to make things happen, even if they fail. I don't blame them getting angsty when there's been zero shots on goal and players making unnecessary mistakes.

 

We almost always play better as the underdog, and I think the home crowd plays a big part in that. I hate watching games we're expected to win

[The College Dropout]

Just now, TaylorJ_01 said:

 

Crowd will forgive a lot if they can sense the effort and players who are trying to make things happen, even if they fail. I don't blame them getting angsty when there's been zero shots on goal and players making unnecessary mistakes.

 

We almost always play better as the underdog, and I think the home crowd plays a big part in that. I hate watching games we're expected to win

Nah Murphy always tried hard and he gets groans

[TRon]

21 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said:

It does suggest they’re worth nothing like the fees paid, shit or not.  You don’t pay £50m for a winger who can only play if everything is absolutely spot on for him 

 

Especially if no other club is interested. That said, I still hope he comes good, but you can only judge him on what you are seeing, and so far he looks clumsy and nervous at the same time. 

[Teslact]

9 hours ago, Dr.Spaceman said:

 

In what way that matters though? I don't think we do it too quickly in the ground, collectively anyway. You'll always get the odd person calling someone from the off.

My brother-in-law used to sit next to a guy who complained constantly about Anita, culminating in him complaining about where he was standing before kick off.