Benwell Lad Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 "Well looks like we dodged a bullet with that Cesko kid, just a shame we didn't snap up Hoejlund when we could have got him cheap" - bloke in a pub April 2026. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facundo Ferreyra Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 (edited) 25 minutes ago, 11Tino11 said: The delay is probably because our offer was cash upfront and they're wanting to pay on tick. Jim Ratcliffe trying to up his Klarna credit limit Edited August 7, 2025 by Facundo Ferreyra Autocorrect changing the rat's name Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sturla Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 They are going to spend a few weeks on getting this done as they did with Mbeumo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyc35i Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 33 minutes ago, Geordie Ahmed said: Whilst we were wasting our time with this Villa signed Guessand, I think we'll look back on that signing and question why we didn't prioritise him instead, much better value and more versatile than Sesko There’s value out there and we don’t seem to wanting to take a ‘risk’. This guy probably ends up being sold to a team in Saudi next summer for double Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 Career suicide going to the footballers graveyard that is Old Trafford, he would be wise to think harder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 Have they made a proper good signing since Fernandes? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 Just now, The Butcher said: Have they made a proper good signing since Fernandes? Signed loads of good players IMO. That would have been successful elsewhere. Just the culture of the club and the way they're used that makes them flops. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 Liverpool are punting Elliot to Leipzig. Wonder if there is any chance they might put pressure on Leipzig to sell to us instead for a higher fee, in the hope it then unlocks the Isak transfer? Seems a weird situation all round that it isn't done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 1 minute ago, ponsaelius said: Liverpool are punting Elliot to Leipzig. Wonder if there is any chance they might put pressure on Leipzig to sell to us instead for a higher fee, in the hope it then unlocks the Isak transfer? Seems a weird situation all round that it isn't done. They are going to spunk the Xavi Simmons money on someone quite a bit worst? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 Look how long it took them to agree a fee for the Brentford lad. Jim the rat will be negotiating down to the penny. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 2 minutes ago, r0cafella said: They are going to spunk the Xavi Simmons money on someone quite a bit worst? Yeah but they're not in CL this year and they're not even a real football club really Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joelinton7 Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 They can take their time, they have a free run at him now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facundo Ferreyra Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 2 minutes ago, ponsaelius said: Yeah but they're not in CL this year and they're not even a real football club really Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Mattoon said: Career suicide going to the footballers graveyard that is Old Trafford, he would be wise to think harder. His career and progress would be so much better served in this Newcastle team and set up, as was Isak's. We're just perfect for a No.9. Sadly he's a Slovenian kid who will be star struck by the name Manchester United despite the reality being far removed from that glamourous image nowadays. Edited August 7, 2025 by Benwell Lad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 21 minutes ago, r0cafella said: They are going to spunk the Xavi Simmons money on someone quite a bit worst? wait till you hear we are potentially going to spunk the Isak money on Jackson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 Just now, gdm said: wait till you hear we are potentially going to spunk the Isak money on Jackson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 1 hour ago, The College Dropout said: So you agreed a deal for more than the £70m Brentford asked for but in a better cash situation for yourselves? Yeh you folded cos you're cash broke. £65m is less than £70m. Add-ons are no guarantee. Payment was also on our terms. This will be what we're hashing out with Leipzig. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 Wilson at 28 would be 55M in 2025. The same ability but 24 would be more than Pedro and likely 70M plus. That's how much a Wilson replacement now costs. See Solanke and add 30% inflation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 8 hours ago, Moose said: OK. This has been the most tedious saga of all the tedious sagas in tedious sagaland SO FAR Time is running out for more sagas.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 (edited) 7 hours ago, Froggy said: I was on my mobile last night and didn't want to give you a half-arsed reply so wanted to wait until I got on my laptop. You're 100% right about the attitude issue. Player power has been a huge issue at Man United for years since Fergie left and the attitude in the dressing room was rotten. All these new signings didn't suddenly turn into bad players when they came to us, but were dragged down to a professional level that just wasn't acceptable. Ten Hag did bits and pieces to fix it, but one sorry and you were straight back into the team. Rashford spent two days having a bender in Belfast, and was seen in a nightclub until 3am when he was due in Manchester for training the following morning. He ended up reporting himself ill and missing training. All he had to do was say sorry for that to Ten Hag and he was straight back in because he was our main source of goals and Ten Hag was desperate to win. How does someone on £300,000 a week get away with that? Amorim isn't like that, and there's a reason we adore him. If you cross him it seems like you'll get one chance, and if you mess up again you're out the door. That's what we've needed for years to fix the culture. You can feel the difference. I'm sure it was a huge shock to the system for the likes of Garnacho, but he openly questioned and basically criticised the managers decision to drop him for the EL final, and that was him finished as a Man United player. Our highest rated youngster, our diamond in the rough, yet he hasn't got the backing of any fan over the age of 12. Feels like players will now come in to a much more professional dressing room, and that's a foundation that has been needed for at least 8 years. ---------------------------------------------- Transfers, like you say, aren't the main issue. That doesn't mean some of the decisions haven't been shocking. Mount is a really good player and a good signing we were all happy with. £55m though in the last year of his contract? £250,000 a week? Ronaldo is Ronaldo, but Ole didn't want him and he upset the balance immediately. Fans, including myself, were blinded by nostalgia at the time but Ole had us purring and the Ronaldo signing was his downfall Sanchez is another one. Martial in incredible form on the left, and we signed Sanchez to keep him away from City. Sanchez was our highest paid player, and ended up displacing Martial despite not being anywhere near as good. We chased a player (De Jong) all summer when it was clear as he day he had no interest in joining us. Then we get smacked by Brentford and Brighton and panic buy Casemiro. Don't get me wrong, Case was class that first season, but the issue with his wages and contract was always coming. He gets £18m a year. Same with Antony. Available at £40-50m, and we baulked at that and fucked about all summer. Another panic buy after the Brentford and Brighton defeats. INEOS aren't making these mistakes. They're either buying young or buying Premier League proven players, and all of them on sensible wages. I think that combined with Amorim's culture cleanse will lead to a far better environment. All that remains is whether or not Amorim has the ability to get the team performing, and I think given what he achieved at Sporting it's clear he's got the expertise. I like the Cunha and Mbeumo signing for you, but I'm not convinced about Sesko for that price yet. I mean, there was a lot of hype around the Höjlund signing aswell, and now they apparently want him gone for a way cheaper price. Young player from a different league with a very high price tag. You've signed a good amount of those before INEOS. How can you be confident that the story won't repeat itself this time with Sesko? Edited August 7, 2025 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 2 minutes ago, Erikse said: I like the Cunha and Mbeumo signing for you, but I'm not convinced about Sesko for that price yet. I mean, there was a lot of hype around the Höjlund signing aswell, and now they apparently want him gone for a way cheaper price. Young player from a different league with a very high price tag. You've signed a good amount of those before INEOS. How can you be confident that the story won't repeat itself this time with Sesko? I'm not confident on Sesko to be fair. But I do like the mix of young players and Premier League proven players this summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 29 minutes ago, Froggy said: £65m is less than £70m. Add-ons are no guarantee. Payment was also on our terms. This will be what we're hashing out with Leipzig. So if he’s good and you do well you’ll pay more than the asking price. If he’s not good or you’re shit you’ll have paid £65m. it’s hardly a brilliant piece of negotiatio however you look at it. Add one are based on appearances and goals it seems. Easily achievable apparently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 3 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: So if he’s good and you do well you’ll pay more than the asking price. If he’s not good or you’re shit you’ll have paid £65m. it’s hardly a brilliant piece of negotiatio however you look at it. Add one are based on appearances and goals it seems. Easily achievable apparently. I never said it was brilliant. We've negotiated and got the payment terms we wanted which allowed us to try and improve other areas of the squad. If we paid £70m up front for Mbeumo, we can't afford anyone else without sales. That's all we'll be doing with Sesko. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 3 minutes ago, Froggy said: I never said it was brilliant. We've negotiated and got the payment terms we wanted which allowed us to try and improve other areas of the squad. If we paid £70m up front for Mbeumo, we can't afford anyone else without sales. That's all we'll be doing with Sesko. Aye but is he a certified bagsman? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kooiman Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 11 minutes ago, Froggy said: I never said it was brilliant. We've negotiated and got the payment terms we wanted which allowed us to try and improve other areas of the squad. If we paid £70m up front for Mbeumo, we can't afford anyone else without sales. That's all we'll be doing with Sesko. Just from a depth and priorities standpoint, does it not seem odd to be lumping this money on a forward when Zirkzee and Hojlund exist? I know the latter has had ample chance, but Zirkzee had one season and is now second or third fiddle depending on how you see it? I can't claim it to be your opinion, but Sir Jim was meant to bring good governance and ambition. I guess the latter box is being ticked, in a way, but the former still seems scatter gun and cack handed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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