Colos Short and Curlies Posted November 4, 2025 Share Posted November 4, 2025 1 hour ago, Lush Vlad said: He is particularly strong in those areas and far better at Ramsdale at it. The numbers I posted up on the previous page show that: Pope: Ramsdale (caveat that he will have perhaps played a different role art Southampton): IMO, I don't think there is an argument against Pope basically being a better keeper than Ramsdale on almost every metric, bar distribution. How much of a loss it would be to lose some of Pope's strengths. But gain a keeper than can help in the build up and not lose possession so often, is up for debate. Although it's not as if we are replacing Pope with Claudio Bravo for his ability with his feet alone and you're expecting him to chuck a goal in every week. Ramsdale has shown in his career to be a decent keeper. If a bit erratic and clown like at times. Most keepers are IMO, they're all mental So the longer we struggle to build anything from the back and control the ball, especially in certain away games. Then I'm not as against dropping Pope as I once was. Without going back and re-watching match of the day from last season I'd guess that Southampton sat back a lot more than we do so the last 2 metrics will naturally be lower for Ramsdale, a better comparison might be when he played for Arsenal. One thing the commentators mentioned in the Spurs game was that last season the number of errors leading to a goal from Ramsdale was zero. In a team getting battered most weeks that's an amazing stat Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted November 4, 2025 Share Posted November 4, 2025 I would be ok for him to get a run of games just to put the debate to sleep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted November 4, 2025 Share Posted November 4, 2025 32 minutes ago, Colos Short and Curlies said: Without going back and re-watching match of the day from last season I'd guess that Southampton sat back a lot more than we do so the last 2 metrics will naturally be lower for Ramsdale, a better comparison might be when he played for Arsenal. One thing the commentators mentioned in the Spurs game was that last season the number of errors leading to a goal from Ramsdale was zero. In a team getting battered most weeks that's an amazing stat Crosses stopped still not great in his first Prem season at Arsenal. But much better playing as the sweeper keeper: Second season it goes down again. The same as last time with the caveat here. Who knows what Arsenal were doing differently in defence that season: I've been against dropping Pope for a while and I think he is underappreciated because of him being a bit unorthodox in his style. Along with the odd howler and how bad he is with his feet. But seeing as we seem to at least be trying, albeit unsuccessfully so far, to revert to a different style. I'm not opposed to Ramsdale getting more than just League Cup games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 4, 2025 Share Posted November 4, 2025 1 hour ago, The College Dropout said: I would be ok for him to get a run of games just to put the debate to sleep. Well he has been a highly rated keeper who did well for Arsenal and England at one point, and Howe must still think there's a good keeper in there. While there was no way you could drop Pope earlier in the season, you would make a case for starting him tomorrow then maybe let him have a run if he does well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted November 4, 2025 Share Posted November 4, 2025 33 minutes ago, TRon said: Well he has been a highly rated keeper who did well for Arsenal and England at one point, and Howe must still think there's a good keeper in there. While there was no way you could drop Pope earlier in the season, you would make a case for starting him tomorrow then maybe let him have a run if he does well. Ok bring him in then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 4, 2025 Share Posted November 4, 2025 5 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Ok bring him in then. Having said all that I still think Howe will start Pope tomorrow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted November 4, 2025 Share Posted November 4, 2025 3 hours ago, TRon said: Having said all that I still think Howe will start Pope tomorrow. I'm Pope's biggest fan, however I think Ramsdale may get a few games now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted November 4, 2025 Share Posted November 4, 2025 44 minutes ago, Rod said: I'm Pope's biggest fan, however I think Ramsdale may get a few games now. Like many, I’d like to see him get a few games to simply see what he can bring. Feel like he deserves a chance. Not that I am jumping on the Pope made a mistake or two get him dropped bandwagon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggys First Goal Posted November 25, 2025 Share Posted November 25, 2025 It’s still not your time, son. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted November 25, 2025 Share Posted November 25, 2025 4 minutes ago, Miggys First Goal said: It’s still not your time, son. Would stick him up top over Gordon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSG Posted November 25, 2025 Share Posted November 25, 2025 Time to bring him in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JigsawGoesToPieces Posted November 25, 2025 Share Posted November 25, 2025 If i was Ramsdale i wouldn't be banging on Eddies door to play, id be kicking his office fucking door down to play Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyeyzzon Posted November 25, 2025 Share Posted November 25, 2025 Gotta bump this, maybe Eddie’s forgotten he exists Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted November 25, 2025 Share Posted November 25, 2025 Time for you to stake your claim, you pigeon-loving cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keggy_Keagal Posted November 25, 2025 Share Posted November 25, 2025 Ramsdale needs a run even if it's just to get Pope to focus his game again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted November 25, 2025 Share Posted November 25, 2025 Think when he starts against Fulham and we win, he’ll stay in there onwards. He won’t be starting against Everton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted November 25, 2025 Share Posted November 25, 2025 Hopefully Eddie is fuming at Pope as much as we are and gives Ramsdale a chance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted November 25, 2025 Share Posted November 25, 2025 Not sure Ramsdale is a better GK than Pope. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudson Posted November 25, 2025 Share Posted November 25, 2025 Just now, Lotus said: Not sure Ramsdale is a better GK than Pope. Nothing to loose in finding out then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funtime Frankie Posted November 25, 2025 Share Posted November 25, 2025 He will give defence more confidence to pass to him as Ramsdale has better passing skills. I do think Pope is probably the better shot stopper but we need to change the starter after the amount of clangers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vedder Posted November 25, 2025 Share Posted November 25, 2025 Need to bring him in now. Not just knee-jerk to Pope’s mistake tonight, but if you don’t use that as a reason to change it, what do you wait for? I think it’s worth it, just to see if it can help us stop being so shaky away from home. Ramsdale might help calm everybody down a bit and help us play out from the back much better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted November 25, 2025 Share Posted November 25, 2025 Has to start now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 25, 2025 Share Posted November 25, 2025 If he can't get in now then he never will. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted November 25, 2025 Share Posted November 25, 2025 Absolutely. Pope has been given enough chances, and dropped too many clangers. Time for him to warm the bench a bit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted November 25, 2025 Share Posted November 25, 2025 7 minutes ago, Lotus said: Not sure Ramsdale is a better GK than Pope. There wasn't anything in Dubs and Pope but Dubs coming in last season was a big part in the winning run just by being in form Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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