Jacob Ramsey

[The College Dropout]

36 minutes ago, KingArthur said:

Yea, but when you don't have a 20 goals-a-season striker, you need to have many players to pop up with few goals. If you have 3 CMs who open up defence but no one supports the striker to offer threat, it's no use. Even Longstaff scored few.

He is a strong runner with the ball but needs to be braver when against low block. Either try to beat your man or play combinations. Now it seems he plays the simple pass quite often. And he is quite one-footed.

And yes. we need players who can pass better and receive the ball between the lines on the half turn. Bruno can, but he usually is the player playing the first pass and we need others. Woltemade can, but he is not learnt the tempo yet, takes too much time with the ball.
 

He has attributes to be success here though.

That's what Wissa and Wolte are for. We've paid the big money for them. The system is designed for the striker to score lots of goals.

[lovejoy]

3 hours ago, Andy said:

I don't agree that he's been lumped in with Elanga personally, in that case surely Wissa would be in the same boat too?

 

I'd like to think most people are judging him on what he's done in his career as a whole, what we need in our midfield, and what he's done on the pitch for us in his 13 appearances so far. 

 

Last night was the first performance where he hasn't been largely anonymous. It was a foundation for him to build on, but personally I'd still need to see a lot more from him to convince me he isn't just neat and tidy and not much else, which is the impression I largely got from him at Villa. 

Nah, we literally hadn't seen Wissa until about a week ago. Calling him out for poor performances would have been mental, even by this places standards.

 

 

 

 

Edited December 18, 2025 by lovejoy

[MagSA]

Much improved last night and more involved, certainly his best outing for us.

 

Kinda felt that Elanga was put on the main stage on the weekend and we know how that ended, last night was Jacobs chance. QF cup game, let's see what you can do. I think he passed the test which should be great for his confidence.

[TRon]

2 hours ago, Yorkie said:

 

Not sure I am? My original point was that there has been cases of people framing their judgement of Ramsey through an 'Elanga and Ramsey, what a collective waste of money' lens when, really, only one of those two players (might be) deserving of the label. 

 

For the record I'd judge them all individually. Elanga has been very disappointing on the whole but Ramsey has shown promise. The jury is still out on both of them though, Wissa too (though I've always been convinced he'd be a good signing).

 

The only reason they get lumped together is because they are both new, and neither has set the world on fire. But ultimately they deserve to be judged on what they produce in their own right.

 

I'm still not convinced Ramsey is what we need, but he needs more full games like yesterday to give him a chance to get up to speed. 

[LFEE]

Is it just me or does he run in straight lines when carrying the ball? Probably not explaining myself very well.

 

Like an old video game with a 8 position joystick 🕹️ 🤣

 

Once he sets off with ball he seems to just keep going in that direction. No switch of movement etc.

[Holloway]

Wasn't Obertan known as Runs in straight lines? I hope he contributes a bit more than that dud. eventually 

[huss9]

14 hours ago, bobbydazzla said:

Isak costed £125m and on current form he’d get picked last when they’re choosing teams for the lunchtime game of football in the school yard at West Jesmond Primary

 

 

 

That was me in 1978. And I'm sure we had make our own  footballs out of loads if socks because we weren't allowed real ones. Middle class softies. 

 

 

Edited December 18, 2025 by huss9

[Alberto2005]

He was better, but when he signed I thought he was someone who took players on but everytime he's played for us he just seems to get it and pass it on straight away.

 

Hopefully that will come with more confidence.

 

 

Edited December 18, 2025 by Alberto2005

[madras]

4 hours ago, huss9 said:

That was me in 1978. And I'm sure we had make our own  footballs out of loads if socks because we weren't allowed real ones. Middle class softies. 

 

 

 

We (Simonside middle) actually played West Jesmond in 1978 in the City Cup, beat them 6-0 at ours.

 

For some reason I remember our first few games. Cowgate 8-1, West Jesmond 6-0, Chapel Park 2-1.

[BrickTop]

I'll admit I never paid much attention to him at Villa. Did he seem much better there? Seems he mainly played out wide for them too. 

[Ronson333]

10 hours ago, Alberto2005 said:

He was better, but when he signed I thought he was someone who took players on but everytime he's played for us he just seems to get it and pass it on straight away.

 

Hopefully that will come with more confidence.

 

 

 

It was the same with Anderson when he played for us too, now he takes players on for Forest. Maybe it’s instructions from Howe..

[Andy]

2 hours ago, BrickTop said:

I'll admit I never paid much attention to him at Villa. Did he seem much better there? Seems he mainly played out wide for them too. 

 

He was good in 22/23 (mainly playing from the left as you say), then very stop-start from then onwards. Don't think Emery ever really fancied him. 

[lovejoy]

2 hours ago, BrickTop said:

I'll admit I never paid much attention to him at Villa. Did he seem much better there? Seems he mainly played out wide for them too. 

Brummie is a big fan, which is a canny endorsement tbf.

[Coffee_Johnny]

1 minute ago, Andy said:

 

He was good in 22/23 (mainly playing from the left as you say), then very stop-start from then onwards. Don't think Emery ever really fancied him. 

Haven’t checked appearances and contributions etc, but get the sense that Morgan Rogers started to outperform him. Seemed like the must keep of the two of them. 

[Earp]

I think the Villa fans were sad to see him go

[Dr Venkman]

22 hours ago, Andy said:

I don't agree that he's been lumped in with Elanga personally

 

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On 17/12/2025 at 13:46, TheEntertainer said:

Woltemade and Thiaw have been good, Elanga and Ramsey have been bad

 

 

On 17/12/2025 at 21:59, Sibierski said:

We’re a really boring side and Howe is out of ideas. 
 

Shame as he’s been the best manager in my lifetime, but this is a malaise that’s setting in and feels it needs a fresh voice, rather than another £150m on Elanga / Ramsey etc.

 

 

On 17/12/2025 at 14:12, 500bhp said:

The thing is though we significantly overpaid for Ramsey and Elanga

 

 

On 17/12/2025 at 01:33, Mountain said:

My main concern is Elanga, Ramsey and our dear leader.

 

 

On 14/12/2025 at 21:49, Gottlob said:

Elanga and Ramsey seem more suited to our old way of playing and they don't seem to fit as well with Woltemade up top.

 

 

On 15/12/2025 at 12:21, Sibierski said:

Osula a matter of time to be gone for same. Valid argument Elanga could be same if he doesn’t start to show something soon. Ramsey non-existent.

 

On 16/12/2025 at 22:13, TRC said:

Ramsey and Elanga should have been hitting the ground running 

 

 

On 16/12/2025 at 15:15, Ilovetoon8788 said:

It's just unfortunate for Howe that the signing of elanga and Ramsey is proving to be disastrous and might have very well cost his job if it comes to that. 

[Dr.Spaceman]

Ramsey has been a decent signing, he's at least showing that he can control a football, tackle and has shown the odd glimpses of being able to do something in the final third. He'll get better

[Andy]

4 minutes ago, Dr Venkman said:

 

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Not really sure what your point is here. Criticising them both as our least effective signings isn't the same as saying Ramsey is being lumped in to the criticism "by association with Elanga" IMO.  

 

Most people are judging Ramsey on his own merit. He's made 13 appearances and not done very much, to the extent where I was surprised he'd been on the pitch that many times. This was a common criticism of him at Villa. 

[Dr Venkman]

2 minutes ago, Andy said:

 

Not really sure what your point is here. Criticising them both as our least effective signings isn't the same as saying Ramsey is being lumped in to the criticism "by association with Elanga" IMO.  

 

Most people are judging Ramsey on his own merit. He's made 13 appearances and not done very much, to the extent where I was surprised he'd been on the pitch that many times. 

 

Ok 

[wong989]

1 hour ago, Coffee_Johnny said:

Haven’t checked appearances and contributions etc, but get the sense that Morgan Rogers started to outperform him. Seemed like the must keep of the two of them. 

Thats what it seemed like to me, Ramsey looked exciting (if you're Villa or England), but it never became something consistent. Then Rogers came, immediately took his position and decided games. But that's the rub, Rogers cost around 10-15 million. Considering how poor our U-21's and reserves are, if CIty are off-loading to Middlesboro for 1mil, don't know why we aren't in there, especially looking at Rogers raw attributes and mentality. He wouldn't have been too far off replacing Longstaff, stepping in for Willock, Joelinton. We don't take enough risks or look far forward enough in our transfer policy.

[PauloGeordio]

25 minutes ago, Earp said:

I think the Villa fans were sad to see him go

They were. Although at the price and with his injury record, they got over him quickly. Colleague at work, Villa supporter says we have a player if we can keep him fit! 

[gbandit]

Not much of a criticism to be ousted for Morgan Rogers who’s a brilliant footballer with no weaknesses 

[Dr Venkman]

Also notable that Ramsey is very comfortable on the ball and technically sound. Plenty would have you believe that Howe isn't interested in players with those attributes.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

I think it's just we expected a more immediate impact rather than he's been 'bad' TBH.

 

He's been fine, he just hasn't played to his full capacity or managed to impact games as much as he would've liked. 

 

You can see he has a lot of good attributes IMO, he'll be a good signing. 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Just now, Dr Venkman said:

Also notable that Ramsey is very comfortable on the ball and technically sound. Plenty would have you believe that Howe isn't interested in players with those attributes.

 

Like almost everyone we've signed since the takeover TBH