Jacob Ramsey

[Danh1]

2 minutes ago, El Prontonise said:

Feels a very safe signing, PL proven etc, can fit a squad role without not improving us at all in terms of any quality so far.

Around 40 million pounds to do this. I was quite excited by the signing tbh but in retrospect our strategy of signing Prem proven players has backfired big time. 
 

I hope the rumours of us looking at players in France and Holland are true. 

[El Prontonise]

1 minute ago, Danh1 said:

Around 40 million pounds to do this. I was quite excited by the signing tbh but in retrospect our strategy of signing Prem proven players has backfired big time. 
 

I hope the rumours of us looking at players in France and Holland are true. 

 

Yeap, also exploit Villa's PSR status.

 

I do think he could still do well, but he's not a first team starter for me at all.

[lovejoy]

7 minutes ago, Shearergol said:

Willock’s surely only playing so we can sell him in January, right?

Hope alluded to this recently.

[lovejoy]

It’s way too early to tell with Ramsey, we’ve barely seen him.

 

It’s a concern that he can’t seem to get off the bench though, that’s for sure.

[huss9]

37 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

Howe would have even more serious questions to answer if that was the case

howe needs to be asked these questions now.

elanga, gordon, ramsey etc.

 

ramsey's had no where near enough time to be judged.

elanga, on the other hand....

 

 

Edited December 14, 2025 by huss9

[Zero]

We spent 40m pounds to upgrade Willock

 

and then we played Willock ahead of this “upgrade”

 

I even don’t know who to blame, this is fucking unacceptable from all parties.

[Whitley mag]

I keep reading about him being an upgrade for Longstaff and Willock. Surely to take us to the next level we should have been looking to upgrade Joelinton and relegate him to back up.  
 

Is that not how any serious club raises the bottom and top level at the same time?

[AyeDubbleYoo]

I expect more to come from Ramsey like, I don’t think what we’ve seen so far is the limit to what he’ll offer.

[wong989]

1 hour ago, Whitley mag said:

I keep reading about him being an upgrade for Longstaff and Willock. Surely to take us to the next level we should have been looking to upgrade Joelinton and relegate him to back up.  
 

Is that not how any serious club raises the bottom and top level at the same time?

You'd think so. At the least have somebody 18-21 with the attributes to play his role after a few months of coaching, and looking for the potential to be a big upgrade. Certainly before spending 40-50 million it has to be asked, are these next level players? Do they have the potential even? They’re 23ish. The passing, dribbling, touch, vision is unlikely to become far better than what it is. Yes, they may become effective in a given system and improve certain aspects, but that’s true of near any player.

[McCormick]

We’ve literally only made maybe 3 bad signings. Bit of an overreaction imo.

[nufcjmc]

7 minutes ago, McCormick said:

We’ve literally only made maybe 3 bad signings. Bit of an overreaction imo.

Agreed and most have some mitigation attached to them. 

 

Greek keeper but was forced upon us?

Chris wood didn't suit or work for us but recouped most of the money back?

Ramsdale not the keeper solution it seems but missed our top target and loan with an option means its salvageable?

Ramsey so far not 40m player but if its to upgrade longstaff on that comparison may turn out good buy?

Elanga so far what have we done springs to mind young and prem experience but looking like we are going to see our first big flop. 

 

 

[GWN]

8 hours ago, Zero said:

We spent 40m pounds to upgrade Willock

 

and then we played Willock ahead of this “upgrade”

 

I even don’t know who to blame, this is fucking unacceptable from all parties.

 

 

Howe ? no one else really?

[The College Dropout]

16 minutes ago, McCormick said:

We’ve literally only made maybe 3 bad signings. Bit of an overreaction imo.

Worse still - we've only made 1 genuine upgrade from 6 signings. That's poor for the money spent.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

I really think we need to separate who is 'better' from who is playing better at the moment. Quite different things when we're assessing who's a good or bad signing. 

 

I think the intention of almost all our signings was to provide greater quality in rotation than what we had before. We weren't really aiming for many direct upgrades to starters. 

 

 

Edited December 15, 2025 by AyeDubbleYoo

[Displayname]

Surely will start vs Fulham?

[The Prophet]

Bit harsh to be writing him off, when he's barely kicked a ball for us.

 

We've seen with Hall, (rightly or wrongly) if Howe deems a player isn't ready he'll hold him back.

 

It could be anything really. He could be struggling with the move, he might not be physically up to it yet, he might not understand what Howe wants from him, etc.

 

Sure, it shows paying a Premier League premium isn't a guarantee, but it's daft to be writing the lad off already. I thought we'd have learnt by now.

[nufcjmc]

Just now, The College Dropout said:

Worse still - we've only made 1 genuine upgrade from 6 signings. That's poor for the money spent.

Also agree here as well

 

Thiaw has been great.

 

Ramsey not shown enough to be a longstaff upgrade yet cant seem to displace anyone. 

 

Elanga replaced no one as miggy went the previous window i didn't expect him to be better than purple season Murphy but at best hes been a rotation body at best.

 

Ramsdale better than dubs? Maybe but not enough to challenge pope. 

 

Big nick isnt as good as rat lad was for us and being so different comes with risk and opportunity depending how you see it but not working as it stands.

 

Wissa better than Wilson well you have to be fit and available to know. Harsh but so far we have no clue.

 

Alot of money spent without much instant leap in quality. The belief the squad was good enough the better players just needed rotation options maybe will turn out to be a mistake. Instead of upgrading and pushing the current 11 player into the rotation/backup position. 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

I don't think you could expect an upgrade on Isak like. 

[PauloGeordio]

Just now, AyeDubbleYoo said:

I don't think you could expect an upgrade on Isak like. 

Liverpool got him. Ekitike.

[The College Dropout]

5 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

I don't think you could expect an upgrade on Isak like. 

That one is understandable. Not upgrading Murphy (even Almiron), Joelinton (even Longstaff) isn't.

[Minhosa]

Would love to know what’s happening with this lad. 
 

He was the summer signing I was most excited about. Couldn’t wait to see him ‘Howe’d’. 
 

Joe Willock coming on instead of him is as bizarre as it’s concerning imho. 

[The College Dropout]

The Howe'd thing we need to move beyond.

 

We need to sign actually good/great footballers. That Howe unlocks their top levels. We know all the names.

 

The Jacob Murphy, even Joelinton thing. That should be by exception. We shouldn't buy players to be "Howe'd".

 

Saying that - I don't think Ramsey fits in that profile. Ramsey we were buying the dip in a highly talented player, supposedly. We just haven't seen it. I would say Elanga is an example of a player that needs to be "Howe'd" and should be avoided.

[lovejoy]

25 minutes ago, Minhosa said:

Would love to know what’s happening with this lad. 
 

He was the summer signing I was most excited about. Couldn’t wait to see him ‘Howe’d’. 
 

Joe Willock coming on instead of him is as bizarre as it’s concerning imho. 

 

Agreed, as I keep saying, it's too early to tell with him but it'll be interesting to know what is going on with him for sure.

 

Willock is allowed to go in Jan, which makes it all the more bizarre.

 

Can only presume it is fitness issues (again).

[Sibierski]

1 hour ago, The Prophet said:

Bit harsh to be writing him off, when he's barely kicked a ball for us.

 

We've seen with Hall, (rightly or wrongly) if Howe deems a player isn't ready he'll hold him back.

 

It could be anything really. He could be struggling with the move, he might not be physically up to it yet, he might not understand what Howe wants from him, etc.

 

Sure, it shows paying a Premier League premium isn't a guarantee, but it's daft to be writing the lad off already. I thought we'd have learnt by now.

Hall was a kid, again we need to stop using him as an example. Because of how little business we did other season, it’s really now looking at Kelly, Osula, Thaiw, Ramsey, Wissa, Woltemade and Elanga as our recent signings.
 

Kelly gone after 6 months because he wasn’t deemed good enough. Osula a matter of time to be gone for same. Valid argument Elanga could be same if he doesn’t start to show something soon. Ramsey non-existent. The successes are now a lot fewer in recent times which continues downward trend of most things about us the past 18 months.  

[The Prophet]

3 minutes ago, Sibierski said:

Hall was a kid, again we need to stop using him as an example. Because of how little business we did other season, it’s really now looking at Kelly, Osula, Thaiw, Ramsey, Wissa, Woltemade and Elanga as our recent signings.
 

Kelly gone after 6 months because he wasn’t deemed good enough. Osula a matter of time to be gone for same. Valid argument Elanga could be same if he doesn’t start to show something soon. Ramsey non-existent. The successes are now a lot fewer in recent times which continues downward trend of most things about us the past 18 months.  

 

It's just how Howe is. If he doesn't think someone is fit enough or tactically dialled in, he won't play them. Age is irrelevant in that regard.

 

I'm not sure why we'd use this summer as a benchmark for our recruitment when it was widely accepted as a mess. Granted, I still think in the medium to long term, most of the signing will prove to be decent. We're entering yet another new era in that regard, let's hope this one sticks.