healthyaddiction Posted August 23, 2025 Share Posted August 23, 2025 4 minutes ago, JonBez comesock said: We probably we have around £20m spare ? Let's be honest, none of us know how much we have to spend. Given we're certainly going to sell Isak next summer at the latest, we are probably able to speculate a bit more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted August 23, 2025 Share Posted August 23, 2025 (edited) 1 hour ago, healthyaddiction said: Let's be honest, none of us know how much we have to spend. Given we're certainly going to sell Isak next summer at the latest, we are probably able to speculate a bit more. Given we bid 70-80M for Sesko I'd say we have circa 120m without selling Isak. Edited August 23, 2025 by relámpago blanco Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KetteringMag Posted August 23, 2025 Share Posted August 23, 2025 I’m not sure someone plays 78 minutes with a duff Achilles to be honest Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted August 23, 2025 Share Posted August 23, 2025 1 hour ago, healthyaddiction said: Let's be honest, none of us know how much we have to spend. Given we're certainly going to sell Isak next summer at the latest, we are probably able to speculate a bit more. We are also still being linked to another AM/CM and defender, so who knows what we have planned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted August 23, 2025 Share Posted August 23, 2025 If Isak stays we can offer him a buy out clause in his contract that has to be activated before 30th June 2026, which falls in this financial fair play year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted August 23, 2025 Share Posted August 23, 2025 1 minute ago, Matt1892 said: If Isak stays we can offer him a buy out clause in his contract that has to be activated before 30th June 2026, which falls in this financial fair play year. He'd have to sign a new contract for that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted August 23, 2025 Share Posted August 23, 2025 15 minutes ago, relámpago blanco said: He'd have to sign a new contract for that. If it was a 3 year contract (or less), with equal or greater wages, there'd be literally no reason for him not to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted August 23, 2025 Share Posted August 23, 2025 1 hour ago, KetteringMag said: I’m not sure someone plays 78 minutes with a duff Achilles to be honest If it was anything like mine the pain grows over time during a game. Can feel fine initially. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted August 24, 2025 Share Posted August 24, 2025 7 hours ago, Matt1892 said: If Isak stays we can offer him a buy out clause in his contract that has to be activated before 30th June 2026, which falls in this financial fair play year. He shouldn’t be offered a new deal at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted August 24, 2025 Share Posted August 24, 2025 10 hours ago, JonBez comesock said: We probably we have around £20m spare ? Can’t we rely on a big sale next summer? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displayname Posted August 24, 2025 Share Posted August 24, 2025 8 hours ago, Chris_R said: If it was a 3 year contract (or less), with equal or greater wages, there'd be literally no reason for him not to. Well that sets a shitty example if players can get improved contracts with no upside to the club just because they throw a hissy fit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted August 24, 2025 Share Posted August 24, 2025 40 minutes ago, Displayname said: Well that sets a shitty example if players can get improved contracts with no upside to the club just because they throw a hissy fit. It's not just throwing a hissy fit though, it seems pretty much true that Amanda (probably rightly) at least heavily suggested a new contract for summer 24 which didn't materialise (or to be more factually we just turned around and said no), then we (again rightly) put a value on Isak that puts him in the elite bracket of player. Put aside the behaviour and a new contract this summer would absolutely have been the right thing to do. Making good on that with a clause - and I like June as it falls in a PSR period, gives the summer to replace and next summer is a WC year which complicates the transfer window - is a pragmatic decision for the club. Big caveat here though, it needs to be incentive driven to get the top wedge even with a potentially lower release fee of we qualify for CL again and the real big one on that there has to be an environment when Eddie and the lads will welcome him back in after a contrite apology Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted August 24, 2025 Share Posted August 24, 2025 Improved contacts almost never have actual upside for the club, you’re mostly just burning guaranteed years by converting them to higher salary and then maybe even adding some post-prime years where he’ll underperform the contract at the end. The only reason to do it is if you need to keep the player happy. Looking for upside is thinking about it the wrong way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displayname Posted August 24, 2025 Share Posted August 24, 2025 1 minute ago, oldtype said: Improved contacts almost never have actual upside for the club, you’re mostly just burning guaranteed years by converting them to higher salary and then maybe even adding some post-prime years where he’ll underperform the contract at the end. The only reason to do it is if you need to keep the player happy. Looking for upside is thinking about it the wrong way. They always get a longer lenght with improved wages. Would be shocked if you can find an example of a player that just got a wage boost without an increased lenght on their contract. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted August 24, 2025 Share Posted August 24, 2025 2 hours ago, Displayname said: Well that sets a shitty example if players can get improved contracts with no upside to the club just because they throw a hissy fit. Didn't say that's what we should offer him, it was an extreme example. Plus the upside to the club might be that he knuckles down and starts playing and scoring goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displayname Posted August 24, 2025 Share Posted August 24, 2025 21 minutes ago, Chris_R said: Didn't say that's what we should offer him, it was an extreme example. Plus the upside to the club might be that he knuckles down and starts playing and scoring goals. I don't mind giving him a new contract to lift his mood and change the narrative. But it has to include an extension and not just be on Isak's terms. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted August 24, 2025 Share Posted August 24, 2025 2 hours ago, Displayname said: They always get a longer lenght with improved wages. Would be shocked if you can find an example of a player that just got a wage boost without an increased lenght on their contract. It's the increased length that covers the cost of the contract by thinning out the amortisation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted August 24, 2025 Share Posted August 24, 2025 31 minutes ago, Displayname said: I don't mind giving him a new contract to lift his mood and change the narrative. But it has to include an extension and not just be on Isak's terms. Do you think there's any prospect at all that he's here in 3.5 years time? I'd suggest the chance of him signing a 4+ year contract are vanishingly small. He's gone sometime in the next 3 years. It's just a question of when, to who, for how much, and what he does with himself in the meantime. If we can help that last part by giving him better terms, it may be worth it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted August 24, 2025 Share Posted August 24, 2025 2 hours ago, Displayname said: They always get a longer lenght with improved wages. Would be shocked if you can find an example of a player that just got a wage boost without an increased lenght on their contract. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cde34gnr558o Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displayname Posted August 24, 2025 Share Posted August 24, 2025 7 minutes ago, Rich said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cde34gnr558o Should have made a diaclaimer of not including players near the end of their careers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displayname Posted August 24, 2025 Share Posted August 24, 2025 10 minutes ago, Chris_R said: Do you think there's any prospect at all that he's here in 3.5 years time? I'd suggest the chance of him signing a 4+ year contract are vanishingly small. He's gone sometime in the next 3 years. It's just a question of when, to who, for how much, and what he does with himself in the meantime. If we can help that last part by giving him better terms, it may be worth it. If he gets a release clause with improved wages there might be a chance he signs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted August 24, 2025 Share Posted August 24, 2025 Not as shocked as I’d hoped for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghandis Flip-Flop Posted August 24, 2025 Share Posted August 24, 2025 26 minutes ago, Chris_R said: Do you think there's any prospect at all that he's here in 3.5 years time? I'd suggest the chance of him signing a 4+ year contract are vanishingly small. He's gone sometime in the next 3 years. It's just a question of when, to who, for how much, and what he does with himself in the meantime. If we can help that last part by giving him better terms, it may be worth it. I don’t think anyone realistically expects him to stay beyond next summer regardless of what happens in the remainder of this window, but extending the contract by at least a year, means a buying club is more likely to pay the release clause than wait until his deal expires or tries to bid below the release clause value Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon1984 Posted August 24, 2025 Share Posted August 24, 2025 1 hour ago, Chris_R said: Didn't say that's what we should offer him, it was an extreme example. Plus the upside to the club might be that he knuckles down and starts playing and scoring goals. So the upside is that he adheres to the contract he already has? Glad you’re not brokering deals for the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted August 24, 2025 Share Posted August 24, 2025 We talking about that rat? Fuck him and his contract. He shouldn't be offered shit. 225 for LIverpool, 200 million domestically 150 abroad. Let him Anelka around Europe for a decade the fucking pig. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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