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Chris_R

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4 minutes ago, Toon1984 said:

So the upside is that he adheres to the contract he already has? Glad you’re not brokering deals for the club.

 

1) I'm not actually suggesting we do this. I've never said that. I'm simply outlining that it's an option, and a legitimate one too.

2) He's not adhering to his contract currently and showing no signs of doing so. If new terms on a contract of the same length encouraged him to do so, it's hard to say that the club don't benefit from that more than having him on his current deal but effectively on strike.

 

Whether I think this would be a good idea and something I'd be behind us doing would require me to sit in a room with the player and have a good long chat with him. Clearly I can't do that, so again I'm not suggesting it as a course of action. I'm only saying it's an option, which it is.

 

 

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1 minute ago, Chris_R said:

2) He's not adhering to his contract currently and showing no signs of doing so. If new terms on a contract of the same length encouraged him to do so, it's hard to say that the club don't benefit from that more than having him on his current deal but effectively on strike.

 

If he's violating his contract surely the club can simply stop paying it? If he's in violation first I'd imagine even the union hasn't got much leverage? 

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Toon1984

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1 minute ago, Chris_R said:

 

1) I'm not actually suggesting we do this. I've never said that. I'm simply outlining that it's an option, and a legitimate one too.

2) He's not adhering to his contract currently and showing no signs of doing so. If new terms on a contract of the same length encouraged him to do so, it's hard to say that the club don't benefit from that more than having him on his current deal but effectively on strike.

 

Whether I think this would be a good idea and something I'd be behind us doing would require me to sit in a room with the player and have a good long chat with him. Clearly I can't do that, so again I'm not suggesting it as a course of action. I'm only saying it's an option, which it is.

 

 

 

It’s not an option. Isak already has 3 years left on a contract that requires him to ‘knuckle down and play for us’. 
You said we should offer him a new contract to encourage him to start playing for us again.

Can you imagine the precedent this would set? I’m all for sitting down with the player again (Eddie says the club have had many recent meetings with him) once the window shuts but, effectively, rewarding him for his unacceptable behaviour would be a disaster for the club.

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Too much emotion being put into people's responses to this, understandably so as fans, but the club won't think that way, they'll only be bothered about how to get the maximum out of a bad situation and if that requires a contract renegotiation then so be it.

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6 minutes ago, Mike said:

 

If he's violating his contract surely the club can simply stop paying it? If he's in violation first I'd imagine even the union hasn't got much leverage? 

 

I'm sure this has been gone over already, but aren't we severely limited to how much we can fine him? It's about 2-4 weeks, that's it. Then he can just sit and do nothing on full pay.

 

1 minute ago, Toon1984 said:

It’s not an option. Isak already has 3 years left on a contract that requires him to ‘knuckle down and play for us’. 
You said we should offer him a new contract to encourage him to start playing for us again.

Can you imagine the precedent this would set? I’m all for sitting down with the player again (Eddie says the club have had many recent meetings with him) once the window shuts but, effectively, rewarding him for his unacceptable behaviour would be a disaster for the club.

 

I didn't say we should. I said we could. I can only repeat that I'm not advocating this as a course of action, I'm simply explaining that it's a valid option.

 

As for his contract requiring him to knuckle down, that's working out great isn't it.

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1 minute ago, Chris_R said:

I'm sure this has been gone over already, but aren't we severely limited to how much we can fine him? It's about 2-4 weeks, that's it. Then he can just sit and do nothing on full pay.

 

Need to get the union guy that negotiated that shit to be our CEO fucking hell.

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37 minutes ago, Chris_R said:

 

I'm sure this has been gone over already, but aren't we severely limited to how much we can fine him? It's about 2-4 weeks, that's it. Then he can just sit and do nothing on full pay.

 

 

I didn't say we should. I said we could. I can only repeat that I'm not advocating this as a course of action, I'm simply explaining that it's a valid option.

 

As for his contract requiring him to knuckle down, that's working out great isn't it.

No it isn’t. But at least I’m not suggesting rewarding him for it.

 

 

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If I had the choice of JSL for £50M or Wissa for £50M then I'd go for this guy. But more than that and it becomes a problem. If they aren't interested at £50M then another 10M won't make a difference.

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