Set Pieces (Free Kicks, Long Throws, Corners)

[jack j]

Botman Burn Woltemade Miley Thiaw all fucking giants and we still couldnt win a header in the box 

Joke

[aussiemag]

The delivery has been awful to be fair. Cant coach set pieces, if the set piece taker cant beat the front post. 

[nufc123]

Not sure what the plan is here, but its an awful look 

[ElDiablo]

Our lot always seem on top of eachother, static and slow to react. Bournemouth were the first to every drop down/header out.

[Ronaldo]

5 minutes ago, nufc123 said:

Not sure what the plan is here, but its an awful look 

Set piece guy needs sacking, like. They’re absolutely abysmal.

[nufc123]

Just now, Ronaldo said:

Set piece guy needs sacking, like. They’re absolutely abysmal.

Waiting 3 years for this 

[Ronaldo]

We must have started with one of the tallest sides in PL history today. It’s tragic.

[TRon]

Just now, Ronaldo said:

We must have started with one of the tallest sides in PL history today. It’s tragic.

 

 

They all can't head a ball for shit though. 

[Toon No9]

Putting all the tall guys around the keeper at corners is such a waste imo.

Need more movement from the big lads in the box.

 

With the height we have in the team we should score from at least one corner every game.

[Decky]

The set penis is back.

[Pilko]

If the new set piece bloke's idea is to surround the keeper with all our tallest players, then hit the first man with the corner, he's doing a superb job.

[Optimistic Nut]

There must be a reason for it but I don't see it. Massive waste to me.

[jack j]

Big fan of Bournemouths kick off routine. Couple of keepy ups and a have it 

[Lush Vlad]

29 minutes ago, Toon No9 said:

Putting all the tall guys around the keeper at corners is such a waste imo.

Need more movement from the big lads in the box.

 

With the height we have in the team we should score from at least one corner every game.

I mean, I agree that our corners are shit. But that is just nonsense. 
 

Not sure what the percentage is now. But didn’t it used to be like 2-3% of all corners in the prem resulted in goals? 

 

[El Prontonise]

1 minute ago, Lush Vlad said:

I mean, I agree that our corners are shit. But that is just nonsense. 
 

Not sure what the percentage is now. But didn’t it used to be like 2-3% of all corners in the prem resulted in goals? 

 

 

Yeah it's a very low percentage.  For me the issue is we don't create even chances from them.

[The Bonk]

31 minutes ago, Toon No9 said:

Putting all the tall guys around the keeper at corners is such a waste imo.

Need more movement from the big lads in the box.

 

With the height we have in the team we should score from at least one corner every game.

 

 It’s more impressive to manage consistently miss these massive green targets than float one in.

[Heron]

Zonal marking is a pet peeve of mine and also the lack of the traditional "put it in the mixer" from an offensive point of view.

 

I'll start with Zonal Marking. Space never scored a goal like and being fixed in a position leaves you open to the opposition gathering pace and not only beating you to the ball but gaining height in their jump.

 

The penalty spot/put it in the mixer approach is literally so, so basic and I get that professional footballers and coaches probably think they're beyond that, but we literally have like half a dozen lads over 6ft nowadays. Keepers are generally well protected so standing around him isn't likely to work and for big lads it's really difficult to make an impact with your height if your entirely static given that any contact nowadays results in fouls. There seems to be a new trend of entirely flooding the goal line and basically inswinging it as near to the bar as possible. I get why that might or does work but seems more difficult to execute tbh.

 

You only have to look at Dan Burns cup final winning goal to see how effective it can be simply playing it long and deep and away from the keeper.

 

 

Edited September 21, 2025 by Heron

[El Prontonise]

1 minute ago, Heron said:

Zonal marking is a pet peeve of mine.

 

[Magic Rat]

I'm not sure about long throws, I have thought for awhile that our short throws are poor.  Other top teams seem to have more options, but we seem to wait so long that everyone is marked.  We offer end up going backwards.

[gazza ladra]

Quote

Newcastle’s outswingers are the league’s outliers

Things are a little calmer at St James’ Park since the transfer window closed three weeks ago.

We can now focus solely on matters on the pitch, and there is a very specific phase of play on which Eddie Howe’s men stand out from the pack. At a time when in-swinging corners are the predominant delivery method in the Premier League, no side has taken more out-swingers this season than Newcastle.

 

This is specific to their right-sided corners, and is largely born of circumstances that date back to last season. Left-back Lewis Hall gained his first league start of the season against Bournemouth on Sunday but is still working his way back from a long-term foot injury — with the right-footed Tino Livramento having deputised excellently on the left side of defence in his absence.

 

That means that Newcastle simply do not have a natural left-footer to whip those crosses under the crossbar from the right side of the pitch, with Kieran Trippier having been the primary taker from both sides for much of this season.

Mapping Newcastle’s corner end-locations since last season shows just how different their approach has been in this one — or rather, forced to be — when comparing their left and right sides.

 

The towering presence of new signing Nick Woltemade (6ft 6in/198cm) joins Dan Burn (6ft 7in), Sven Botman (6ft 4in) and Fabian Schar (6ft 1in) as the key targets for those deliveries, often pulling away from goal to gain first contact when the ball is played from the right side.

 

Just five goals from corners since the start of last season is not the strongest return from Howe’s side, but with Hall back in the team, it looks like their delivery will benefit from greater unpredictability in the coming weeks.
 

 

From the Athletic. Some accompanying charts too.

 

 

Edited September 23, 2025 by gazza ladra

[andycap]

Burn front post woltemade back post and joelinton and botman attacking the six yard box. 

Tonali on the edge of the box for a fizzer if they clear it. 

[cubaricho]

And obviously just foul the keeper each time like Arsenal 

[mosstef]

I have to admit that I absolutely hate our new kickoff routine where Tonali blasts the ball out of play for a throw-in in our opponent's half. There's undoubtedly some evidence suggesting it's an effective way to put pressure on your opponent, but it just doesn't sit right with me voluntarily giving the ball away with your first kick.

[KingArthur]

3 minutes ago, mosstef said:

I have to admit that I absolutely hate our new kickoff routine where Tonali blasts the ball out of play for a throw-in in our opponent's half. There's undoubtedly some evidence suggesting it's an effective way to put pressure on your opponent, but it just doesn't sit right with me voluntarily giving the ball away with your first kick.

I think it's a smart thing. Throw in from your own corner flag is a shitty situation, and we are pretty good at winning the ball back from there.

[Dr.Spaceman]

We're playing a high press and putting ourselves immediately into a prime high pressing situation - it's a smart thing to do.