The College Dropout Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 To be fair, these 1 to 11 things would be very boring if players just picked the players with the best ability. It's a bit more interesting when they talk about their own personal relationships with players, how they complimented each other within the team/dressing room etc, and why. I watch that segment a fair bit and it's crap when they mostly choose international team mates they barely played with. Nobby over Beckham was a great choice as they actually spent maybe 5 years together. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fugazi Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 He included Rooney on the bench, how often did they even play together? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Beckham's positioning was massively under-rated. Considering he was the best crosser of a ball in the world for nigh on 10 years, it was ridiculous how often he found loads of space to put in a cross. More to do with the quality of the cross. He didn't need to be in a traditionally dangerous position. With the likes of Yorke & Scholes central you needed a compact team to defend properly and he'd stick wide as anything. Didn't need an angle or more than a single touch. I think those 1 to 11's should be more about who you worked best with, than the best you've played alongside for a handful of games. Nobby's a better choice just because they played so much together. Of course Beckham was better. But Nobby was superb and had a lovely range of passing and creativity. Probably had the best eye for a pass i've seen at SJP. He must have put Dyer, Bellamy, Robert & Shearer through on goal hundreds of times. You can see the great understanding he had with Dyer in that Dyer compilation on Youtube. Nobby seemingly assisted Dyer in half those goals. For a lad with no engine, zero pace, little trickery - Solano was amazing. Had he been a real athlete he would've been world class. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Beckham excelled at crossing from deep. You don't need great positioning or dribbling if you mastered that skill to the extent he did, imho. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 I love Nobby and he was a very underrated footballer, but Beckham as overrated as he has sometimes been labeled, is a level above the likes of Nobby in every department. Beckham's passing wasn't just the hollywood ball, he could play killer through balls and switch play which is often overlooked in today's game. His crossing and free kicks were generally of a high quality too. His work-rate, temprement and leadership skills were huge too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Beckham did really well out of his career for a player who lacked pace, couldn't beat an opponent with a trick and couldn't head or tackle either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Speed was not an easy player to rile, but I can remember him nearly coming to blows with Dyer over something he said. I'm not convinced that Dyer has given us the full account of what he said to Bowyer. Would Bowyer have reacted like that just because someone told him he was shit? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Beckham couldn't beat a player with a trick? What? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Speed was not an easy player to rile, but I can remember him nearly coming to blows with Dyer over something he said. I'm not convinced that Dyer has given us the full account of what he said to Bowyer. Would Bowyer have reacted like that just because someone told him he was shit? I think you need to be put down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 People actually underrating Beckham now. "David Beckham AMAZING SKILL" on YT. He could go round people man. And he was far from slow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Speed was not an easy player to rile, but I can remember him nearly coming to blows with Dyer over something he said. I'm not convinced that Dyer has given us the full account of what he said to Bowyer. Would Bowyer have reacted like that just because someone told him he was s***? It's Lee Bowyer man. And Dyer was and had clearly wound him up. A few minutes before Dyer chooses to not pass to him - he should have but it didn't look like a major deal but you can clearly see Bowyer shouting at Dyer in disgust. A few minutes later, the same thing basically happens - it looks like Dyer chooses to not pass to Bowyer because of the previous needless aggro to piss him off and it kicks off. I have no doubt Dyer was very rude and expletive but I imagine the gist of it was - "you can't tell me what to do, if I don't want to pass to you I wont, and it's because your shit so eff off." An already irate Bowyer isn't going to have that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Speed was not an easy player to rile, but I can remember him nearly coming to blows with Dyer over something he said. I'm not convinced that Dyer has given us the full account of what he said to Bowyer. Would Bowyer have reacted like that just because someone told him he was s***? It's Lee Bowyer man. And Dyer was and had clearly wound him up. A few minutes before Dyer chooses to not pass to him - he should have but it didn't look like a major deal but you can clearly see Bowyer shouting at Dyer in disgust. A few minutes later, the same thing basically happens - it looks like Dyer chooses to not pass to Bowyer because of the previous needless aggro to piss him off and it kicks off. I have no doubt Dyer was very rude and expletive but I imagine the gist of it was - "you can't tell me what to do, if I don't want to pass to you I wont, and it's because your shit so eff off." An already irate Bowyer isn't going to have that. Maybe you're right, but I think that kind of exchange happens quite often on a football field, and between professionals it usually gets sorted out in the dressing room afterwards. Like I said with the Speed incident, Dyer did seem to have a way of getting under someone's skin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Speed was not an easy player to rile, but I can remember him nearly coming to blows with Dyer over something he said. I'm not convinced that Dyer has given us the full account of what he said to Bowyer. Would Bowyer have reacted like that just because someone told him he was s***? It's Lee Bowyer man. And Dyer was and had clearly wound him up. A few minutes before Dyer chooses to not pass to him - he should have but it didn't look like a major deal but you can clearly see Bowyer shouting at Dyer in disgust. A few minutes later, the same thing basically happens - it looks like Dyer chooses to not pass to Bowyer because of the previous needless aggro to p*ss him off and it kicks off. I have no doubt Dyer was very rude and expletive but I imagine the gist of it was - "you can't tell me what to do, if I don't want to pass to you I wont, and it's because your s*** so eff off." An already irate Bowyer isn't going to have that. Maybe you're right, but I think that kind of exchange happens quite often on a football field, and between professionals it usually gets sorted out in the dressing room afterwards. Like I said with the Speed incident, Dyer did seem to have a way of getting under someone's skin. Watch the video of pre-incident. You rarely see players so angry at another player for not passing to them. I'm sure Dyer was/is a very cocky and arrogant lad which gets to people. It probably doesn't take much to get under Bowyer's skin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulivye Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Perhaps this is a non-starter, but i was irked by his comments: http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/keiron-dyers-incredible-claim-newcastle-13782482 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Forgive me if I don't take too much stock in a man who couldn't manage to not punch his teammate in the face whilst on field Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Not clicking on the chronic site. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Little twot's got a nerve. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 What a little scrote Dyer is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 What has he said? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixx Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Prick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dembacha Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Fair play to Shreeves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Pleased i didn't watch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Wonder if he'd been thinking about all that whilst he was on I'm a Celebrity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papavasiliou Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 What has he said? Dyer: “A new investor will see the club as a business. They’re not bothered about winning something, they just want to keep churning the money. Arsenal have shown that – they’re happy to come top four – job done. “Knowing the Newcastle fans, would they settle for just that? I think Newcastle staying in the Premier League will just make money with the TV deal.” Shreeves: “I’ve spoken to quite a few Newcastle fans. I was on the train with quite a lot after the Brighton game and they said they’re fed up with this reputation that they believe they have a right to win a trophy or belong alongside Manchester United. That’s a myth. They just want to support their team and see them do well. They do not believe they have any divine right.” Dyer: “I disagree. I disagree. Being there I think they expect to be up there. I’m not saying winning the league but I think the fans think they’re a Champions League team. I honestly believe that. “They were spoiled with Kevin Keegan.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 What has he said? Dyer: “A new investor will see the club as a business. They’re not bothered about winning something, they just want to keep churning the money. Arsenal have shown that – they’re happy to come top four – job done. “Knowing the Newcastle fans, would they settle for just that? I think Newcastle staying in the Premier League will just make money with the TV deal.” Shreeves: “I’ve spoken to quite a few Newcastle fans. I was on the train with quite a lot after the Brighton game and they said they’re fed up with this reputation that they believe they have a right to win a trophy or belong alongside Manchester United. That’s a myth. They just want to support their team and see them do well. They do not believe they have any divine right.” Dyer: “I disagree. I disagree. Being there I think they expect to be up there. I’m not saying winning the league but I think the fans think they’re a Champions League team. I honestly believe that. “They were spoiled with Kevin Keegan.” :lol: Absolute ring piece. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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