Hughesy Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Always thought he was hugely overrated - technically not that great and lack of footballing intelligence and/or composure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Day Gadgie Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Didn’t he ‘refuse’ to play on the left one time? One of the main reasons the board etc determined that SBR had lost the dressing room. Refused to play on the right, but was happy enough to play on the left for England at St James Park just a few days later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 I held the opposite opinion, I think Dyer would not survive in nowadays EPL because his weakness would be easily found out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stal Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 It was this lad who I associate with the absolutely awful and completely untrue trite expression that I hate "it's like a new signing" as he always seemed to be injured. I did see him outside the pictures once and a group of young lads came and asked him for his autograph and he happily gave them a signature each. I think this post covers several threads at once. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Aye Paul Scholes he was not. But better at CM and wide than pretty much 90% of the midfielders we’ve had since. I would only have Cabaye over him. So rare to have a CM with sheer pace and dribbling skills. Catch a loose ball in midfield and we were off on the counter. A very dynamic side. We would run teams ragged. To the point a lot of teams would just sit back playing into Robert, Speed, Solano and Shearer strengths. It’s been a long time since we’ve been such an athletic team. The current team is shaping up to be extremely strong mind. The core is extremely powerful. Get som explosive attacking players and we’ll be in business. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Think he was better technically than some are giving Him credit for. Strong first touch. Able to play carpet football. Quick feet. Much better in tight spaces or playing short range passes than Sissoko for example. Technically sound. Nee Cabaye on the ball but it wouldn’t matter if he could run circles around him on a good day. If he knuckled down he could’ve been a better player. His attitude at the time has meant he’s not even liked by the club where he had all his career highlights. Only himself to blame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Did he even have a song? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Think he was better technically than some are giving Him credit for. Strong first touch. Able to play carpet football. Quick feet. Much better in tight spaces or playing short range passes than Sissoko for example. Technically sound. Nee Cabaye on the ball but it wouldn’t matter if he could run circles around him on a good day. If he knuckled down he could’ve been a better player. His attitude at the time has meant he’s not even liked by the club where he had all his career highlights. Only himself to blame. Disagree. He had this horrible habit of passing to his team mates at shin/knee height meaning they had to get it under control before they could move it along. Like a pitching wedge. His long passing was non existent also. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Did he even have a song? Pretty sure we used to sing "Kieron Dyer" ad infinitum like the old "Alan Gowling" song Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 I held the opposite opinion, I think Dyer would not survive in nowadays EPL because his weakness would be easily found out. a lot worse players about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Think he was better technically than some are giving Him credit for. Strong first touch. Able to play carpet football. Quick feet. Much better in tight spaces or playing short range passes than Sissoko for example. Technically sound. Nee Cabaye on the ball but it wouldn’t matter if he could run circles around him on a good day. If he knuckled down he could’ve been a better player. His attitude at the time has meant he’s not even liked by the club where he had all his career highlights. Only himself to blame. Disagree. He had this horrible habit of passing to his team mates at shin/knee height meaning they had to get it under control before they could move it along. Like a pitching wedge. His long passing was non existent also. Exactly this - his passing was really not very good. His pace and movement were very useful to the way we played (together with Bellamy and Robert), but I think it is forgotten how much better Dyer was made to look by having Speed alongside him to cover for him and the intelligence of Solano outside him - Solano helped Dyer so much in that respect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Day Gadgie Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 I think the main thing Dyer had going for him was that he had a very good understanding with Solano. He could pop a short pass into Nobby, make a run in behind or into some space and Nobby had the ability to find him. This also helped Solano get into some good crossing/shooting positions if Dyer gave him the ball back. They were excellent together. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Putting Dyer in the same bracket as Sissoko in terms of ability. Nobody did that, but carry on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 I think the main thing Dyer had going for him was that he had a very good understanding with Solano. He could pop a short pass into Nobby, make a run in behind or into some space and Nobby had the ability to find him. This also helped Solano get into some good crossing/shooting positions if Dyer gave him the ball back. They were excellent together. Yep. Solano started a lot of our goals from our own penalty area, he used to pick the ball up and look to play Dyer or Bellamy in with their lightning speed and we ripped some teams to shreds on the counter. Dyer wasn't a nice person, but he was one of our best players when he was actually fit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 He had much more pace than skill and was very injury prone. I think our judgement is clouded because of the fact that those were better times for us. One of my least favourite players from that era. He was frightening for opposition players, mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Matches when he was "on" he was nearly unplayable (Southampton away in the FA Cup). Brilliant at driving us forward with the ball, often came deep to get involved, was a player who should have gone on to be better than he was if not for injuries and a fucking shit attitude. Still blame that one fullback for hurting him before the World Cup (Or Euros?) as I thought he was in the best form of his life. Anyway, he's a fucking prick and the shit he spouts off about this club that made him so wealthy and the way he let down Sir Bobby time on was downright disgraceful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Dyer on his day was unbeatable at times. Leeds away and Everton away come to mind, but too few and far between. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sho Time Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Putting Dyer in the same bracket as Sissoko in terms of ability. Nobody did that, but carry on. Dyer was a better player than that mind. He wasn't headless chicken-like with his pace, his runs were very clever and fitted well in a team with Shearer, Speed, Robert, Bellamy... If he was playing now he'd be a first choice in this England team. He was a very good transition player with erratic end product, bordering on poor for the positions he got himself into. Much better version of Sissoko in every respect. More like tbh. Unless I've missed something..? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Putting Dyer in the same bracket as Sissoko in terms of ability. Nobody did that, but carry on. Dyer was a better player than that mind. He wasn't headless chicken-like with his pace, his runs were very clever and fitted well in a team with Shearer, Speed, Robert, Bellamy... If he was playing now he'd be a first choice in this England team. He was a very good transition player with erratic end product, bordering on poor for the positions he got himself into. Much better version of Sissoko in every respect. More like tbh. Unless I've missed something..? Same bracket does not equal much better than. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 I really liked Dyer, whilst he didn’t seem to be able to strike the ball hard, he was so quick, direct and purposeful I found him a joy to watch (at times). When we signed him (£6m in 1999, Gullit - misremebered it was Robison) he looked like a real superstar in the making. He had had a couple of exceptional seasons (whilst still a teenager I think) for Ipswich in the First Division/Champo. The most expensive transfer the season we signed him was Henry for £11m (Juve to Arsenal) which gives an indication of his perceived worth as young player. Never quite fulfilled his potential, but more to do with proneness to injury imo than ability or attitude. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astroblack Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 I think the main thing Dyer had going for him was that he had a very good understanding with Solano. He could pop a short pass into Nobby, make a run in behind or into some space and Nobby had the ability to find him. This also helped Solano get into some good crossing/shooting positions if Dyer gave him the ball back. They were excellent together. Yep. Solano started a lot of our goals from our own penalty area, he used to pick the ball up and look to play Dyer or Bellamy in with their lightning speed and we ripped some teams to shreds on the counter. Dyer wasn't a nice person, but he was one of our best players when he was actually fit. He put Solano ahead of Beckham in his best 11 and Merson had a meltdown. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Funny how Dyer says fans have high expectations after he said he wanted to take Paul Scholes place in the England team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Funny how Dyer says fans have high expectations after he said he wanted to take Paul Scholes place in the England team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Funny how Dyer says fans have high expectations after he said he wanted to take Paul Scholes place in the England team. I'm sure he didn't even make that game thanks to injury. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Funny how Dyer says fans have high expectations after he said he wanted to take Paul Scholes place in the England team. I'm sure he didn't even make that game thanks to injury. He did. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/2917307.stm Scholes put in the best midfield performance I've seen in person that game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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