Parky Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 He's better than Pardew but we could have got better if we really tried is the gist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 The ginger Mike Baldwin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Who said he's worse than Pardew? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Who said he's worse than Pardew? Exactly The rest of that post is fair enough but it only focuses on how we would react if we had attracted a foreign coach who had achieved the good things McClaren has without the obvious bad patches in his record and coming of the back of a period of five years of (mostly) failing, which provides a false picture. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Who said he's worse than Pardew? It's those ever-present straw men who plague this forum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 http://thegallowgategroup.com/2015/06/04/why-fans-should-back-mcclaren/ Soz if Giggs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deckard 13 Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Well, clearly I've been mistaken somewhere which makes me look a right tit. I'm not attempting to down play his failures but equally I think it is unfair to down play his successes. I thought the forest gig went wrong early doors because he was essentially lied to on the first day and didn't get on from there with the board? No excuses for Twente or Wolfsburg but at least he acknowledged his own failings which make him a bigger man than either of the last two clowns. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsley Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Who said he's worse than Pardew? No one per se, but there seems to be a dominant view on here that McClaren will bring more of the same, essentially suggesting that while McClaren isn't necessarily worse than Pardew, he isn't any better. Which - at this point in time - is a bit unfair I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 I am not angry myself really, this club will never hire a manager with proper ambition, that was always obvious. It's just underwhelming, having said that cautiously I am looking forward to hopefully an improvement on the pardew years, provided we recruit competently, even if we won't recruit anyone good enough to escape midtable Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 It has been claimed here that McClaren is a worse appointment than Pardew was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Just accidentally clicked on the first page when opening the thread on my phone and there was an article posted slating McClaren for going to check on David Beckham in LA. Problem was he was playing in a charity match against a load of celebrities which ended 12-4. The man is a fucking idiot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezertron Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 They're all shit appointments tbh. That's the issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlufPurdi Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Just accidentally clicked on the first page when opening the thread on my phone and there was an article posted slating McClaren for going to check on David Beckham in LA. Problem was he was playing in a charity match against a load of celebrities which ended 12-4. The man is a fucking idiot. Had to go check that out, and I'm still pissing myself at "Richard McGough" five minutes later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Well, clearly I've been mistaken somewhere which makes me look a right tit. I'm not attempting to down play his failures but equally I think it is unfair to down play his successes. I thought the forest gig went wrong early doors because he was essentially lied to on the first day and didn't get on from there with the board? No excuses for Twente or Wolfsburg but at least he acknowledged his own failings which make him a bigger man than either of the last two clowns. Good job there's no chance if that here then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Just accidentally clicked on the first page when opening the thread on my phone and there was an article posted slating McClaren for going to check on David Beckham in LA. Problem was he was playing in a charity match against a load of celebrities which ended 12-4. The man is a f***ing idiot. I did that on the Carver thread yesterday, everyone saying how happy they were that he was brought back to the club Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hhtoon Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 At least give him the rope to hang himself 1st. He is meh and I'm not excited by the appointment particularly but coming off the back of some shocking management over the last several years then we just need to consolidate and rebuild the squad....yeah, I know it's not sexy but the club is a mess and it's not going to take 1 managerial appointment to turn it round. All this constant hysteria is gonna get us a rep.....oh wait. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mosstef Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 At least he seems to take responsibility when his team fails. It'll be refreshing not hearing the manager/coach making excuses after a loss and a poor performance. Still and underwhelming appointment though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 If he comes with his own team, we've got a chance I think, if he works with the dross in our dugout, the whole thing is a total waste of time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 If he comes with his own team, we've got a chance I think, if he works with the dross in our dugout, the whole thing is a total waste of time. What do you think we've got a chance of doing? My expectations are that we are a nothing club and this is a nothing appointment which will bring us nothing but mediocrity. At this stage it looks like being a shit appointment and not a sign that we're going to try and compete for anything other than not getting relegated. Appointing McClaren means that nothing has changed and nothing is going to change and it's shit because of that. We're not a club that will push to be the best that it possibly can be, we're a club that wants to be safe and nothing more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Clutching at straws but when Souness came in with Murray & Saunders, he kept Carver on in a lower capacity and he eventually left. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Winning that league is almost comparable to Pardew finishing 5th. http://media.giphy.com/media/Ri7OGqOQ9u4uc/giphy.gif I think Yorkie's sig might be getting replaced. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Winning that league is a far bigger achievement. Simply because of the club he was at. Had it been Ajax or PSV it would have been far less impressive. There's a lot of debate in this thread since its pretty clear cut. He's a decent manager, no more, no less. What it says about the bigger picture at Newcastle is a different matter. Was anyone really surprised we didn't show more ambition? Suppose that's for the Mike Ashley thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 At least he seems to take responsibility when his team fails. It'll be refreshing not hearing the manager/coach making excuses after a loss and a poor performance. Still and underwhelming appointment though. Wishful thinking imo, considering he was meant to have hailed Derby's performances as fantastic no matter how good or bad they were and regardless of the result. I've said it before, but after four years I wouldn't be surprised if McClaren was hated as much as Pardew. Either that or he will have been let go for not being sufficiently abnoxious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 At least he seems to take responsibility when his team fails. It'll be refreshing not hearing the manager/coach making excuses after a loss and a poor performance. Still and underwhelming appointment though. Wishful thinking imo, considering he was meant to have hailed Derby's performances as fantastic no matter how good or bad they were and regardless of the result. I've said it before, but after four years I wouldn't be surprised if McClaren was hated as much as Pardew. Either that or he will have been let go for not being sufficiently abnoxious. Did the same at Boro. Always said they were magnificent no matter how bad they were. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mosstef Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 At least he seems to take responsibility when his team fails. It'll be refreshing not hearing the manager/coach making excuses after a loss and a poor performance. Still and underwhelming appointment though. Wishful thinking imo, considering he was meant to have hailed Derby's performances as fantastic no matter how good or bad they were and regardless of the result. I've said it before, but after four years I wouldn't be surprised if McClaren was hated as much as Pardew. Either that or he will have been let go for not being sufficiently abnoxious. Did the same at Boro. Always said they were magnificent no matter how bad they were. I must be ill-informed then. Well, it looks like another season of blaming fans, the weather, the tealady, Mehdi Abeid etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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