triggs Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 If you think about the character/personality we need to replace him there is literally nobody of that ilk available. Klopp was the last one and clearly out of our reach. You can forget the likes of David Moyes. Aye this is a good point. Also, anybody with the necessary charisma and courage that would motivate the players wouldn't work with our board/Ashley Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 its mental al how the players are getting away with it. Only in football could you effectively not do your job, or even slightly try every week and get away with it. Totally boils my piss. They're not, though. The majority of the cunts are hated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Go. Now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 hard to see how he can turn it around but then again its hard to see how any manager in the world could turn this shower of shite into a competent team. Someone with a bit of charisma and authority would be a start charisma and authority won't magic our defense into one fit for purpose I agree but the players just seem to have no respect for him whatsoever That's how it looks, it looks like they're deliberately downing tools and not playing for him. again fat sam says hai from above us in the table Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 I'd love to know what's happened between the Norwich, Sunderland & Stoke games and the last three. I know we weren't exactly 1970 Brazil but we were making chances and not looking like acid on the eyes. Last 3 games is as bad as I've seen. It's weird. Things felt somewhat more positive a few weeks ago and now we're here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 I'd love to know what's happened between the Norwich, Sunderland & Stoke games and the last three. I know we weren't exactly 1970 Brazil but we were making chances and not looking like acid on the eyes. Last 3 games is as bad as I've seen. I've seen us relegated 3 times and can't remember us ever being as bad as we have been these past 2 games. There's just no spark, no effort whatsoever. We're so fragile it's unreal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 If you think about the character/personality we need to replace him there is literally nobody of that ilk available. Klopp was the last one and clearly out of our reach. You can forget the likes of David Moyes. Aye this is a good point. Also, anybody with the necessary charisma and courage that would motivate the players wouldn't work with our board/Ashley As much as I loathe him, Harry Redknapp is probably the closest there is to someone who would potentially take it here, and gives it a go. I know QPR was shocking but I think he's the best bet under this lot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 If the man has any dignity, he will walk tonight. I suspect he won't though. This is going to get nasty in the coming weeks with more howkings to come. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkzter Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 its mental al how the players are getting away with it. Only in football could you effectively not do your job, or even slightly try every week and get away with it. Totally boils my p*ss. They're not, though. The majority of the c***s are hated. I know that mate, but nothing really happens, it"ll be McClaren that gets all the s*** in the media etc, from the fans, press. I know the pundits have been aiming s*** at the players but in general they are removed from the firing line. I"d love 10 minutes in a room with some of the f***ers thats seemingly play for us. ps - I'm not supporting McClaren, he needs to walk imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 I'd love to know what's happened between the Norwich, Sunderland & Stoke games and the last three. I know we weren't exactly 1970 Brazil but we were making chances and not looking like acid on the eyes. Last 3 games is as bad as I've seen. I've seen us relegated 3 times and can't remember us ever being as bad as we have been these past 2 games. There's just no spark, no effort whatsoever. We're so fragile it's unreal. As you say, they've downed tools for him. There's fundamental problems throughout this football club, emanating from the very top. I bet even the new tea lady uses every tea bag three times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Here, what input does Cathro have btw? Every panned shot to the dugout is the same. McClaren stood looking utterly clueless, Simpson, by his own admission a 'bib and cone man', pointing and shouting bollocks and Cathro sat on his arse, usually with his gob buried into his coat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 I'd love to know what's happened between the Norwich, Sunderland & Stoke games and the last three. I know we weren't exactly 1970 Brazil but we were making chances and not looking like acid on the eyes. Last 3 games is as bad as I've seen. I've seen us relegated 3 times and can't remember us ever being as bad as we have been these past 2 games. There's just no spark, no effort whatsoever. We're so fragile it's unreal. You can thank the transfer committee for that which fans are still defending. But cabaye.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 If you think about the character/personality we need to replace him there is literally nobody of that ilk available. Klopp was the last one and clearly out of our reach. You can forget the likes of David Moyes. Aye this is a good point. Also, anybody with the necessary charisma and courage that would motivate the players wouldn't work with our board/Ashley Not least when the previous manager is on the fucking board. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 If you think about the character/personality we need to replace him there is literally nobody of that ilk available. Klopp was the last one and clearly out of our reach. You can forget the likes of David Moyes. Aye this is a good point. Also, anybody with the necessary charisma and courage that would motivate the players wouldn't work with our board/Ashley As much as I loathe him, Harry Redknapp is probably the closest there is to someone who would potentially take it here, and gives it a go. I know QPR was shocking but I think he's the best bet under this lot. No thanks I'd rather have successive relegations than have to listen to his bullshit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Your comprehension skills are awful. SMC is a poor manager but the squad isn't significantly better. We should be doing better but we are long way (and yes, a spine of a team is a long way) from being in that bracket just below the top 6-7 with Everton or Soton. This isn't 1972. The most important thing in modern football is money. Making the people who control it - the most important people. That's why you get Abramovic or Venky's. you're clueless man, utterly clueless - every single season at least one manager comes in and makes a difference without money to keep a team up or better when the plodding failure is sacked even on that basic level my point is proven but if you don't think we should have more than 10 points at this stage with a good manager there's no hope for you, get yourself down to selhurst there's a guy waiting for the likes of you An absolute idiot you are. Yes SMC is a crap manager, yes we should have more points but no - this team is not decent by any stretch. Haven't been decent for years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Needs to walk. Engulfed by the 'loser' culture. To be expected. Brought his own angle of it with him to add to the already strong ethic we had. Given that he's a coach I'd love to know what he's coaching because it isn't: defending passing pressing attacking wide play Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Your comprehension skills are awful. SMC is a poor manager but the squad isn't significantly better. We should be doing better but we are long way (and yes, a spine of a team is a long way) from being in that bracket just below the top 6-7 with Everton or Soton. This isn't 1972. The most important thing in modern football is money. Making the people who control it - the most important people. That's why you get Abramovic or Venky's. you're clueless man, utterly clueless - every single season at least one manager comes in and makes a difference without money to keep a team up or better when the plodding failure is sacked even on that basic level my point is proven but if you don't think we should have more than 10 points at this stage with a good manager there's no hope for you, get yourself down to selhurst there's a guy waiting for the likes of you An absolute idiot you are. Yes SMC is a crap manager, yes we should have more points but no - this team is not decent by any stretch. Haven't been decent for years. what are you on about? all i've said is this squad would not be relegation fodder with a good manager, that's it you apparently believe this squad of players would be going down no matter who was in charge? that is mental Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gomez Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 hard to see how he can turn it around but then again its hard to see how any manager in the world could turn this shower of s**** into a competent team. Someone with a bit of charisma and authority would be a start charisma and authority won't magic our defense into one fit for purpose I agree but the players just seem to have no respect for him whatsoever We need someone frightening as fuck to motivate thise lot, but even someone who just looks a little bit like Diego Simeone would probably do a better job at that than McClaren is Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Ando sounds down. Agree with what he said - they are a bunch of fannies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Needs to walk. Engulfed by the 'loser' culture. To be expected. Brought his own angle of it with him to add to the already strong ethic we had. Given that he's a coach I'd love to know what he's coaching because it isn't: defending passing pressing attacking wide play Yup. The early days, where there was a definitive shift in approach, has clearly been slung by the wayside in exchange for hit and hope. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 TCD got home sharp. Must live next to that corner he was in orchestrating the booing from. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 mcclaren has to go, but it should also make that clueless cunt charnley's position untenable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Can't summon an opinion on whether he should be sacked or not, there's no point. A new manager would be sucked into the vortex of mediocrity anyway. Probably the most likely thing is we sign enough players to just survive so we can start the same thing again in August. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Needs to walk. Engulfed by the 'loser' culture. To be expected. Brought his own angle of it with him to add to the already strong ethic we had. Given that he's a coach I'd love to know what he's coaching because it isn't: defending passing pressing attacking wide play Yup. The early days, where there was a definitive shift in approach, has clearly been slung by the wayside in exchange for hit and hope. Aye, I could see the plan in the first 2/3 games. Keep shape, keep the ball, probe and work it back if needs be. Now it's as baseless as anything Pardew and Carver served up. I could almost tolerate losing every fucking week if I could see that it was part of a bigger picture (like when KK came back). But with this shit, this shit is absolutely unreal. It's staggering we get worse and worse when you think there is no lower we can plummet. I'd advocate him leaving but given how inept his board colleagues are I'm not even sure it'd be worth it. Might as well just go down with him at the helm, get it over and done with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Can't summon an opinion on whether he should be sacked or not, there's no point. A new manager would be sucked into the vortex of mediocrity anyway. Probably the most likely thing is we sign enough players to just survive so we can start the same thing again in August. Vortex of mediocrity? We're fucking 19th you tool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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