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I still think as things stand, moyes, Rodgers and Benitez won't have any better club's to go to than us

 

The first two, maybe.  Benitez?  No way.  He's managed top/elite clubs and done pretty well, everywhere he's been.  Why would he decide to manage a team, that looks odds on to get relegated? 

 

Coin, lots of coin.

 

Looking at our previous managerial appointments I don't think there's any way in the world we're likely to get an expensive, foreign, experienced manager of high repute and status.  It's literally exactly the opposite of what we've been doing for the last eight years.

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All depends whether Ashley wants to gamble with the new Tv money on the line. Stick with McClaren and big chance of losing out. Sack him and hire cheap, unproven, low quality shit managers, might as well keep McClaren and his staff and avoid paying compensation.

 

If he wants to guarantee the club's future in the Premier League, go out and get the big name, high quality, experienced manager. Yes, it might cost more but it will be peanuts when the new money comes into play.

 

Ashley hasn't faced this big of a risk since owning the club. How he sees the payoff will likely decide our future.

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Wonder what the points gained percentages are. Happy Face!

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Name Nationality From To P W D L Winning % Points Gained %

Chris Hughton

Ireland

24 May 2009

6 Dec 2010

64

38

11

15

59.38

65.10

Kevin Keegan

England

5 Feb 1992

8 Jan 1997

251

138

51

62

54.98

61.75

George Martin

England

1 May 1947

1 Dec 1950

155

76

40

39

49.03

57.63

Sir Bobby Robson

England

2 Sep 1999

30 Aug 2004

255

119

64

72

46.66

55.03

Arthur Cox

England

7 Sep 1980

24 May 1984

169

76

42

51

44.97

53.25

Glenn Roeder

England

2 Feb 2006

6 May 2007

72

33

15

24

45.83

52.78

Graeme Souness

Scotland

13 Sep 2004

2 Feb 2006

87

39

19

29

44.82

52.11

Doug Livingstone

Scotland

1 Dec 1954

1 Jan 1956

99

43

20

36

43.43

50.17

Kenny Dalglish

Scotland

14 Jan 1997

27 Aug 1998

78

30

26

22

38.46

49.57

Tom Mather

England

1 Jun 1935

1 Sep 1939

179

78

32

69

43.57

49.53

Andy Cunningham

Scotland

1 Jan 1930

31 May 1935

251

105

45

101

41.83

47.81

Gordon Lee

England

12 Jun 1975

30 Jan 1977

74

28

20

26

37.83

46.85

Jim Smith

England

14 Dec 1988

21 Mar 1991

121

44

38

39

36.36

46.83

Joe Harvey

England

1 Jun 1962

1 Jun 1975

591

224

152

215

37.90

46.47

Alan Pardew

England

9 Dec 2010

2 Jan 2015

185

71

41

73

38.38

45.77

Stan Seymour

England

1 Sep 1939

1 Jun 1958

338

130

74

134

38.46

45.76

Willie McFaul

Northern Ireland

12 Aug 1985

10 Oct 1988

147

52

41

56

35.57

44.67

Ruud Gullit

Netherlands

28 Aug 1998

28 Aug 1999

52

18

14

20

34.61

43.59

Charlie Mitten

England

1 Jun 1958

1 Oct 1961

145

53

28

64

36.55

42.99

Norman Smith

England

1 Oct 1961

1 Jun 1962

35

12

8

15

34.28

41.90

Sam Allardyce

England

15 May 2007

9 Jan 2008

24

8

6

10

33.33

41.67

Jack Charlton

England

14 Aug 1984

10 Aug 1985

48

15

15

18

31.25

41.67

Bill McGarry

England

18 Nov 1977

31 Aug 1980

118

37

33

48

31.35

40.68

Richard Dinnis

England

2 Feb 1977

9 Nov 1977

40

12

10

18

30.00

38.33

Kevin Keegan

England

16 Jan 2008

4 Sep 2008

21

6

6

9

28.57

38.10

Joe Kinnear

Ireland

29 Sep 2008

1 Apr 2009

18

4

8

6

22.22

37.04

Osvaldo Ardiles

Argentina

26 Mar 1991

5 Feb 1992

47

10

18

19

21.27

34.04

Steve McClaren

England

10 Jun 2015

Present

28

7

6

15

25.00

32.14

John Carver

England

26 Jan 2015

9 Jun 2015

20

3

4

13

15.00

21.67

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Wonder what the points gained percentages are. Happy Face!

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Name Nationality From To P W D L Winning % Points Gained %

Chris Hughton

Ireland

24 May 2009

6 Dec 2010

64

38

11

15

59.38

65.10

Kevin Keegan

England

5 Feb 1992

8 Jan 1997

251

138

51

62

54.98

61.75

George Martin

England

1 May 1947

1 Dec 1950

155

76

40

39

49.03

57.63

Sir Bobby Robson

England

2 Sep 1999

30 Aug 2004

255

119

64

72

46.66

55.03

Arthur Cox

England

7 Sep 1980

24 May 1984

169

76

42

51

44.97

53.25

Glenn Roeder

England

2 Feb 2006

6 May 2007

72

33

15

24

45.83

52.78

Graeme Souness

Scotland

13 Sep 2004

2 Feb 2006

87

39

19

29

44.82

52.11

Doug Livingstone

Scotland

1 Dec 1954

1 Jan 1956

99

43

20

36

43.43

50.17

Kenny Dalglish

Scotland

14 Jan 1997

27 Aug 1998

78

30

26

22

38.46

49.57

Tom Mather

England

1 Jun 1935

1 Sep 1939

179

78

32

69

43.57

49.53

Andy Cunningham

Scotland

1 Jan 1930

31 May 1935

251

105

45

101

41.83

47.81

Gordon Lee

England

12 Jun 1975

30 Jan 1977

74

28

20

26

37.83

46.85

Jim Smith

England

14 Dec 1988

21 Mar 1991

121

44

38

39

36.36

46.83

Joe Harvey

England

1 Jun 1962

1 Jun 1975

591

224

152

215

37.90

46.47

Alan Pardew

England

9 Dec 2010

2 Jan 2015

185

71

41

73

38.38

45.77

Stan Seymour

England

1 Sep 1939

1 Jun 1958

338

130

74

134

38.46

45.76

Willie McFaul

Northern Ireland

12 Aug 1985

10 Oct 1988

147

52

41

56

35.57

44.67

Ruud Gullit

Netherlands

28 Aug 1998

28 Aug 1999

52

18

14

20

34.61

43.59

Charlie Mitten

England

1 Jun 1958

1 Oct 1961

145

53

28

64

36.55

42.99

Norman Smith

England

1 Oct 1961

1 Jun 1962

35

12

8

15

34.28

41.90

Sam Allardyce

England

15 May 2007

9 Jan 2008

24

8

6

10

33.33

41.67

Jack Charlton

England

14 Aug 1984

10 Aug 1985

48

15

15

18

31.25

41.67

Bill McGarry

England

18 Nov 1977

31 Aug 1980

118

37

33

48

31.35

40.68

Richard Dinnis

England

2 Feb 1977

9 Nov 1977

40

12

10

18

30.00

38.33

Kevin Keegan

England

16 Jan 2008

4 Sep 2008

21

6

6

9

28.57

38.10

Joe Kinnear

Ireland

29 Sep 2008

1 Apr 2009

18

4

8

6

22.22

37.04

Osvaldo Ardiles

Argentina

26 Mar 1991

5 Feb 1992

47

10

18

19

21.27

34.04

Steve McClaren

England

10 Jun 2015

Present

28

7

6

15

25.00

32.14

John Carver

England

26 Jan 2015

9 Jun 2015

20

3

4

13

15.00

21.67

 

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Wonder what the points gained percentages are. Happy Face!

Caretakers removed

Name Nationality From To P W D L Winning % Points Gained %

Chris Hughton

Ireland

24 May 2009

6 Dec 2010

64

38

11

15

59.38

65.10

Kevin Keegan

England

5 Feb 1992

8 Jan 1997

251

138

51

62

54.98

61.75

George Martin

England

1 May 1947

1 Dec 1950

155

76

40

39

49.03

57.63

Sir Bobby Robson

England

2 Sep 1999

30 Aug 2004

255

119

64

72

46.66

55.03

Arthur Cox

England

7 Sep 1980

24 May 1984

169

76

42

51

44.97

53.25

Glenn Roeder

England

2 Feb 2006

6 May 2007

72

33

15

24

45.83

52.78

Graeme Souness

Scotland

13 Sep 2004

2 Feb 2006

87

39

19

29

44.82

52.11

Doug Livingstone

Scotland

1 Dec 1954

1 Jan 1956

99

43

20

36

43.43

50.17

Kenny Dalglish

Scotland

14 Jan 1997

27 Aug 1998

78

30

26

22

38.46

49.57

Tom Mather

England

1 Jun 1935

1 Sep 1939

179

78

32

69

43.57

49.53

Andy Cunningham

Scotland

1 Jan 1930

31 May 1935

251

105

45

101

41.83

47.81

Gordon Lee

England

12 Jun 1975

30 Jan 1977

74

28

20

26

37.83

46.85

Jim Smith

England

14 Dec 1988

21 Mar 1991

121

44

38

39

36.36

46.83

Joe Harvey

England

1 Jun 1962

1 Jun 1975

591

224

152

215

37.90

46.47

Alan Pardew

England

9 Dec 2010

2 Jan 2015

185

71

41

73

38.38

45.77

Stan Seymour

England

1 Sep 1939

1 Jun 1958

338

130

74

134

38.46

45.76

Willie McFaul

Northern Ireland

12 Aug 1985

10 Oct 1988

147

52

41

56

35.57

44.67

Ruud Gullit

Netherlands

28 Aug 1998

28 Aug 1999

52

18

14

20

34.61

43.59

Charlie Mitten

England

1 Jun 1958

1 Oct 1961

145

53

28

64

36.55

42.99

Norman Smith

England

1 Oct 1961

1 Jun 1962

35

12

8

15

34.28

41.90

Sam Allardyce

England

15 May 2007

9 Jan 2008

24

8

6

10

33.33

41.67

Jack Charlton

England

14 Aug 1984

10 Aug 1985

48

15

15

18

31.25

41.67

Bill McGarry

England

18 Nov 1977

31 Aug 1980

118

37

33

48

31.35

40.68

Richard Dinnis

England

2 Feb 1977

9 Nov 1977

40

12

10

18

30.00

38.33

Kevin Keegan

England

16 Jan 2008

4 Sep 2008

21

6

6

9

28.57

38.10

Joe Kinnear

Ireland

29 Sep 2008

1 Apr 2009

18

4

8

6

22.22

37.04

Osvaldo Ardiles

Argentina

26 Mar 1991

5 Feb 1992

47

10

18

19

21.27

34.04

Steve McClaren

England

10 Jun 2015

Present

28

7

6

15

25.00

32.14

John Carver

England

26 Jan 2015

9 Jun 2015

20

3

4

13

15.00

21.67

 

Christ :lol:

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Damning enough indictment. His hamster smile is slowly sleepwalking us to the Championship.

 

Still a full 11 % points higher than Carver...what a travesty that whole 6 months was.

 

Also Roeder looks decidely grand by comparison.

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This guy gets it:

 

Newcastle attitudes and platitudes are cause for concern as battle looms

 

http://gu.com/p/4gztv?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard

 

I do wonder whether Charnley and co ever read the press and think to themselves that the reporter has a point.  Or do they just believe McClaren when he tells them it will all be OK in the end.

 

And because Charnley, Ashley and Bishop are not football people, are they able to spot the signs that the coach s struggling?

 

I think a blind person could see that the coach is struggling.

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Benitez wants to come to a Premiership club.  FFS get him sorted.

I think he might go back to Chelsea.

LOL. He couldn't even get the Spurs job if it where available. Valencia, another Spanish club, maybe Italy, random ass club in Europe/Turkey or midtable PL mediocrity for Benitez. Should probably try his hand at international management.

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I've just caught up with the Benitez interview. The club must be absolute mugs if they don't do whatever it takes to get him asap if he wants to return to the Premier League. The only other clubs that could potentially be interested in him that he'd consider going to would be Everton as Martinez isn't exactly held in high regard at the minute and maybe Chelsea again if they fail to secure a top target.

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I've just caught up with the Benitez interview. The club must be absolute mugs if they don't do whatever it takes to get him asap if he wants to return to the Premier League. The only other clubs that could potentially be interested in him that he'd consider going to would be Everton as Martinez isn't exactly held in high regard at the minute and maybe Chelsea again if they fail to secure a top target.

 

Give him a mega bonus for keeping us up. Sorted, build for mediocrity and cups (which he is good at) next season. Makes far too much sense though.

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Wonder what the points gained percentages are. Happy Face!

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Name Nationality From To P W D L Winning % Points Gained %

Chris Hughton

Ireland

24 May 2009

6 Dec 2010

64

38

11

15

59.38

65.10

Kevin Keegan

England

5 Feb 1992

8 Jan 1997

251

138

51

62

54.98

61.75

George Martin

England

1 May 1947

1 Dec 1950

155

76

40

39

49.03

57.63

Sir Bobby Robson

England

2 Sep 1999

30 Aug 2004

255

119

64

72

46.66

55.03

Arthur Cox

England

7 Sep 1980

24 May 1984

169

76

42

51

44.97

53.25

Glenn Roeder

England

2 Feb 2006

6 May 2007

72

33

15

24

45.83

52.78

Graeme Souness

Scotland

13 Sep 2004

2 Feb 2006

87

39

19

29

44.82

52.11

Doug Livingstone

Scotland

1 Dec 1954

1 Jan 1956

99

43

20

36

43.43

50.17

Kenny Dalglish

Scotland

14 Jan 1997

27 Aug 1998

78

30

26

22

38.46

49.57

Tom Mather

England

1 Jun 1935

1 Sep 1939

179

78

32

69

43.57

49.53

Andy Cunningham

Scotland

1 Jan 1930

31 May 1935

251

105

45

101

41.83

47.81

Gordon Lee

England

12 Jun 1975

30 Jan 1977

74

28

20

26

37.83

46.85

Jim Smith

England

14 Dec 1988

21 Mar 1991

121

44

38

39

36.36

46.83

Joe Harvey

England

1 Jun 1962

1 Jun 1975

591

224

152

215

37.90

46.47

Alan Pardew

England

9 Dec 2010

2 Jan 2015

185

71

41

73

38.38

45.77

Stan Seymour

England

1 Sep 1939

1 Jun 1958

338

130

74

134

38.46

45.76

Willie McFaul

Northern Ireland

12 Aug 1985

10 Oct 1988

147

52

41

56

35.57

44.67

Ruud Gullit

Netherlands

28 Aug 1998

28 Aug 1999

52

18

14

20

34.61

43.59

Charlie Mitten

England

1 Jun 1958

1 Oct 1961

145

53

28

64

36.55

42.99

Norman Smith

England

1 Oct 1961

1 Jun 1962

35

12

8

15

34.28

41.90

Sam Allardyce

England

15 May 2007

9 Jan 2008

24

8

6

10

33.33

41.67

Jack Charlton

England

14 Aug 1984

10 Aug 1985

48

15

15

18

31.25

41.67

Bill McGarry

England

18 Nov 1977

31 Aug 1980

118

37

33

48

31.35

40.68

Richard Dinnis

England

2 Feb 1977

9 Nov 1977

40

12

10

18

30.00

38.33

Kevin Keegan

England

16 Jan 2008

4 Sep 2008

21

6

6

9

28.57

38.10

Joe Kinnear

Ireland

29 Sep 2008

1 Apr 2009

18

4

8

6

22.22

37.04

Osvaldo Ardiles

Argentina

26 Mar 1991

5 Feb 1992

47

10

18

19

21.27

34.04

Steve McClaren

England

10 Jun 2015

Present

28

7

6

15

25.00

32.14

John Carver

England

26 Jan 2015

9 Jun 2015

20

3

4

13

15.00

21.67

 

Top work on the formatting, you must have been spectacularly bored. :lol:

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Wonder what the points gained percentages are. Happy Face!

Caretakers removed

Name Nationality From To P W D L Winning % Points Gained %

Chris Hughton

Ireland

24 May 2009

6 Dec 2010

64

38

11

15

59.38

65.10

Kevin Keegan

England

5 Feb 1992

8 Jan 1997

251

138

51

62

54.98

61.75

George Martin

England

1 May 1947

1 Dec 1950

155

76

40

39

49.03

57.63

Sir Bobby Robson

England

2 Sep 1999

30 Aug 2004

255

119

64

72

46.66

55.03

Arthur Cox

England

7 Sep 1980

24 May 1984

169

76

42

51

44.97

53.25

Glenn Roeder

England

2 Feb 2006

6 May 2007

72

33

15

24

45.83

52.78

Graeme Souness

Scotland

13 Sep 2004

2 Feb 2006

87

39

19

29

44.82

52.11

Doug Livingstone

Scotland

1 Dec 1954

1 Jan 1956

99

43

20

36

43.43

50.17

Kenny Dalglish

Scotland

14 Jan 1997

27 Aug 1998

78

30

26

22

38.46

49.57

Tom Mather

England

1 Jun 1935

1 Sep 1939

179

78

32

69

43.57

49.53

Andy Cunningham

Scotland

1 Jan 1930

31 May 1935

251

105

45

101

41.83

47.81

Gordon Lee

England

12 Jun 1975

30 Jan 1977

74

28

20

26

37.83

46.85

Jim Smith

England

14 Dec 1988

21 Mar 1991

121

44

38

39

36.36

46.83

Joe Harvey

England

1 Jun 1962

1 Jun 1975

591

224

152

215

37.90

46.47

Alan Pardew

England

9 Dec 2010

2 Jan 2015

185

71

41

73

38.38

45.77

Stan Seymour

England

1 Sep 1939

1 Jun 1958

338

130

74

134

38.46

45.76

Willie McFaul

Northern Ireland

12 Aug 1985

10 Oct 1988

147

52

41

56

35.57

44.67

Ruud Gullit

Netherlands

28 Aug 1998

28 Aug 1999

52

18

14

20

34.61

43.59

Charlie Mitten

England

1 Jun 1958

1 Oct 1961

145

53

28

64

36.55

42.99

Norman Smith

England

1 Oct 1961

1 Jun 1962

35

12

8

15

34.28

41.90

Sam Allardyce

England

15 May 2007

9 Jan 2008

24

8

6

10

33.33

41.67

Jack Charlton

England

14 Aug 1984

10 Aug 1985

48

15

15

18

31.25

41.67

Bill McGarry

England

18 Nov 1977

31 Aug 1980

118

37

33

48

31.35

40.68

Richard Dinnis

England

2 Feb 1977

9 Nov 1977

40

12

10

18

30.00

38.33

Kevin Keegan

England

16 Jan 2008

4 Sep 2008

21

6

6

9

28.57

38.10

Joe Kinnear

Ireland

29 Sep 2008

1 Apr 2009

18

4

8

6

22.22

37.04

Osvaldo Ardiles

Argentina

26 Mar 1991

5 Feb 1992

47

10

18

19

21.27

34.04

Steve McClaren

England

10 Jun 2015

Present

28

7

6

15

25.00

32.14

John Carver

England

26 Jan 2015

9 Jun 2015

20

3

4

13

15.00

21.67

 

Top work on the formatting, you must have been spectacularly bored. :lol:

 

That points gained is incorrect as those stats include cup games, it's why graeme souness is so bloody high-up.

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I've just caught up with the Benitez interview. The club must be absolute mugs if they don't do whatever it takes to get him asap if he wants to return to the Premier League. The only other clubs that could potentially be interested in him that he'd consider going to would be Everton as Martinez isn't exactly held in high regard at the minute and maybe Chelsea again if they fail to secure a top target.

 

Give him a mega bonus for keeping us up. Sorted, build for mediocrity and cups (which he is good at) next season. Makes far too much sense though.

Harsh he's a very good manager imo

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I'd be fine with him being sacked if it meant us bringing in someone with Charisma and talent that would make a difference. However, I don't see that happening, at all. If McClaren goes it will be someone like Moyes or Pulis that comes in imo. I don't think they would make a shred of difference, might as well keep McClaren and hope he makes a breakthrough with the shit mindset years of Pardew has hammered into them.

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Wonder what the points gained percentages are. Happy Face!

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Top work on the formatting, you must have been spectacularly bored. :lol:

 

That points gained is incorrect as those stats include cup games, it's why graeme souness is so bloody high-up.

:thup: good catch. no idea why I'd think the historical record on wikipedia would be league only. cba to go back manager by manager and sort it all out though. :lol:
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