Mick Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 Are we to believe that Bournemouth was the straw that broke the camels back, not Chelsea? Everything suggests that it was Bournemouth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 i don't care how the camel got crippled so long as it was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 Having someone in charge that will concede absolutely everything to them is their modus operandi, though. If they change managers they have to go through the whole process of 'vetting' people again, which involves finding out who's got self respect and who hasn't. It's not like a club with ambition where you just offer the best candidate the job and shake hands. But it blatantly hasn't worked for the last few years, if we don't know how to appoint a proper footballing MD, then the next best thing would probably be to hire a highly rated manager and let him do the job. At some point even Ashley must surely realise this? It has worked perfectly for the last few years, just not this time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikri Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 It all comes down to Charnley, he always appears to be terrified of making decisions that might put him into conflict with people. He can't bring himself to say no to lasagne-face when he wants the job, then he can't face sacking the lunatic when it's clear that everything is falling apart under his leadership. He doesn't want to shift McClaren because he'll have to sack him, plus he essentially wasted 18 months and £80 million on his decision to firstly wait for McClaren then to back him even when things failed to improve so Charnley's own decision-making has to come under extreme scrutiny by Ashley. Ashley may be an absentee landlord but even he might notice that his chosen property manager is currently sat in the living room playing with matches whilst the building is burning. Hell, Charnley was probably even hesitant about signing a new centre-half because it might mean him telling the club captain that he's being replaced. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elma Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 Having someone in charge that will concede absolutely everything to them is their modus operandi, though. If they change managers they have to go through the whole process of 'vetting' people again, which involves finding out who's got self respect and who hasn't. It's not like a club with ambition where you just offer the best candidate the job and shake hands. But it blatantly hasn't worked for the last few years, if we don't know how to appoint a proper footballing MD, then the next best thing would probably be to hire a highly rated manager and let him do the job. At some point even Ashley must surely realise this? Agree - put in a good knowledgeable MD and the rest will follow. We wouldn't then have to tolerate weak managerial appointments and Carr would have been out the door long ago. Ashley should know by now that spending a few million on the right MD and manager, and letting the manager have more of a say on players (ins and outs) would save a load of money wrongly invested? However much evidence is thrown at him it seems he still wants to be surrounded by 'yes' men no matter how much it's costing him (the club). It's truly bizarre - he's probably just doing it out of stubbornness now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 It's sensible to have someone already lined up before sacking. No need to be in a hurry now and then panic for the next 2-3 weeks to appoint someone. The sensible thing would have been to have somebody lined up after the Chelsea game, our lot not panicking is what got us into the current situation. It's about time the pricks did panic because they're s*** at what they do when they have time to think. Maybe they can come up with a decent solution if they don't think about it. They're as thick as pig s*** and every decision they come to makes them look even thicker. If these morons get something right it will be by accident. You are using far too much logic Mick - these guys are beyond humour and contempt...the very fact that Charnley is running the show tells you all you need to know and to have Moncur involved is pathetic..as for Carr, he is on the biggest jolly of his life making lots of personally beneficial contacts in France.....its pathetic, they are floundering around like kids in the deep end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 Why is tha standout candidate obviously Rafa? Where have you been hiding for the past 8-9 years? The standout candidate will be someone like Redkapp, Pearson or Steve Evans. Whatever decision we make will be the wrong one or at a push, the right one (sacking McLarnon) followed by the wrong one. That's how these dickheads operate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 Pete Graves: Newcastle United Latest: Steve McClaren remains the Head Coach of Newcastle United and is taking training today as normal. Despite that his future is far from certain. It's my understanding that following yesterday's emergency board meeting between Lee Charnley, Graham Carr and Bob Moncur the club are now considering a short list of potential replacements. I also understand there is a long list of people who have shown an interest in the position should it become vacant, but Newcastle United are only considering 2/3 candidates seriously. I also understand there is ONE standout candidate. I believe that if Newcastle United receive enough encouragement that an adequate replacement is available then they will look to relieve Steve McClaren of his duties. However, until this replacement is secured, McClaren will continue to look after the first team, as the club look to avoid a repeat of last season when Alan Pardew was allowed to depart the club without a replacement being available. I expect the next 48 hours to be critical for the future of both Steve McClaren and Newcastle United. There is still a possibility that McClaren will be in charge for Monday's trip to Leicester City, but I expect there to be a new Head Coach in the frame by then. The last time there was a standout candidate it was effing mcclaren. What is standout to anyone with the slightest understanding of anything is entirely different to this bunch of incompetent yes men. They'll stick with the fool or get someone equally inept. Or prove me entirely wrong and get an exceptional manager in, not some journeyman who will divide the fanbase again. #wait Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjmc Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 Are we to believe that Bournemouth was the straw that broke the camels back, not Chelsea? Everything suggests that it was Bournemouth. Agreed, its probably easier to talk your way out of how bad things are when you are off the back of a bad defeat away from home to a side in a rich side of form particularly if his excuse/belief was he will pick up the needed wins from home. However following another collapse and poor performance at home on top of fan pressure and negative media that was more likely the deer in headlights moment the board needed to make them do nothing but put their heads in the sand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Five o Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 As much as i want Rafa in, i can not see it happening. He would steamroll the whole senior managment team in a week and get hounded out of the city by Ashley riding on Charnley back, naked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 As much as i want Rafa in, i can not see it happening. He would steamroll the whole senior managment team in a week and get hounded out of the city by Ashley riding on Charnley back, naked. Or he'd keep us up and show Ashley what a proper manager could accomplish. It's the hope that kills. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Five o Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 As much as i want Rafa in, i can not see it happening. He would steamroll the whole senior managment team in a week and get hounded out of the city by Ashley riding on Charnley back, naked. Or he'd keep us up and show Ashley what a proper manager could accomplish. It's the hope that kills. Indeed, my hope for this club is long gone, thank god. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 He did a short term contract with Chelsea the worked well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 They should offer him or Mourinho a contract until the end of the season with a £10m bonus if they keep us up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 My god if we got Rafa in.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 Having someone in charge that will concede absolutely everything to them is their modus operandi, though. If they change managers they have to go through the whole process of 'vetting' people again, which involves finding out who's got self respect and who hasn't. It's not like a club with ambition where you just offer the best candidate the job and shake hands. But it blatantly hasn't worked for the last few years, if we don't know how to appoint a proper footballing MD, then the next best thing would probably be to hire a highly rated manager and let him do the job. At some point even Ashley must surely realise this? It has worked perfectly for the last few years, just not this time. We've been flirting with relegation 3 out of the last 4 years. All the evidence would suggest that far from working, it's been papering over the cracks at best and in reality heading for inevitable disaster. Even someone as pig headed as Ashley must be realising it by this point. Mid table safety is no longer guaranteed with half hearted investment, not in a league where even the small clubs are cash rich and spend big money on players and management structure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoppaz Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 if Rafa wants the job and we don’t appoint him then they all want set on fire! They deserve that anyway! A good article to read on Rafa's experience at Chelsea when he took over mid-season (note there is a betting site pop up when you click on it)... http://www.chelseadaft.org/2013/01/a-closer-look-at-rafa-benitez-chelsea.html He's a great manager though overall and proably the best that is available but would he be able to turn us round. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 I'll sew my scrot to my forehead if we get Benitez Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 Genuinely love the optimism Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Five o Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 What the fuck is there to talk about. Cunts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 A manager of Rafa's calibre would get the players performing to a higher standard straight away which would get us the results we need to stay up. We really do have such a pathetic bunch of players like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 They should offer him or Mourinho a contract until the end of the season with a £10m bonus if they keep us up. It sounds ludicrous to even mention Mourinho in connection with us, but on a short term deal with a big payoff, who's to say he wouldn't consider it? Keep Newcastle up at a big profile club and he's instant hero again. Yeah, he would probably still turn us down, but I'll bet he would be tempted. He's dying to get back in the English game to prove a point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 The annoying thing with it taking so long is that it's taking time away from the new guy. Makes no sense dragging it out. Meeting yesterday, meeting cancelled today, meeting tomorrow. Fuck meetings, sack the cunt and get on with jesus christ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 Knowing our luck we'd get Mourinho and he'd fail here ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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