ads Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Winning that league is almost comparable to Pardew finishing 5th. Brilliant job followed by failure in Germany. Failure back in Holland. Fucking hell man. Seriously? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimburst Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Are you sure you weren't kicked out of college for being thick? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Unbelievable, I would be interest to hear your take on how McClaren actually won that league with Twente. Was it simply his management genius, did he inherit a great group of players ? Did he just get lucky ? What style of play did they adopt, always negative or positive, attacking or dour ? Equally why did he fail on his second time around ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Are you sure you weren't kicked out of college for being thick? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Unbelievable, I would be interest to hear your take on how McClaren actually won that league with Twente. Was it simply his management genius, did he inherit a great group of players ? Did he just get lucky ? What style of play did they adopt, always negative or positive, attacking or dour ? Equally why did he fail on his second time around ? My brother in law has a FC Twente season ticket. He says that although McClaren came in at just the right time (decent squad, owner willing to spend) his experience and motivation skills were crucial in their winning title bid in 2010. However, he has also said that the football was very result oriented (read boring) with clean sheets the main priority. This was his downfall in his second stint in charge, as results were disappointing and the football on display wasn’t much better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Are you sure you weren't kicked out of college for being thick? I'll have you know it's the thousands of us that decry his constant babble of diarrhoea that are the thickos. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Unbelievable, I would be interest to hear your take on how McClaren actually won that league with Twente. Was it simply his management genius, did he inherit a great group of players ? Did he just get lucky ? What style of play did they adopt, always negative or positive, attacking or dour ? Equally why did he fail on his second time around ? My brother in law has a FC Twente season ticket. He says that although McClaren came in at just the right time (decent squad, owner willing to spend) his experience and motivation skills were crucial in their winning title bid in 2010. However, he has also said that the football was very result oriented (read boring) with clean sheets the main priority. This was his downfall in his second stint in charge, as results were disappointing and the football on display wasn’t much better. Interesting thanks man, I'm still no more convinced about him, sounds like a pardewesq philosophy then of keeping it tight at the back and hoping for a bit of magic, great Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest thenorthumbrian Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 McClaren, "it could have been worse" Perhaps that should be the motto of the club now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 http://i.imgur.com/o0NCsVl.png How did he get the England job, with that record at Boro? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astroblack Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Same way Hodgson did, Uefa Cup final. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Part due to his spell as England assistant wasnt it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Since Twente his record is pretty poor. Such an underwhelming appointment, he's already shown he's going to be another doormat by taking on Carver, Stone et al. Worrying the same philosophies and idea or more appropriately lack there of will be allowed to remain at the club. Imagine getting a scouting report from John Carver on someone like Remy Cabella. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 It's even more annoying when you look at some of the other genuinely attainable managers available. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kager Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Normally, I would give anyone coming in the benefit of the doubt, but I remembering telling my wife that Carver wouldn't be that bad, so clearly my judgement is impaired. I don't have anything against McClaren, just utterly disappointed at the lack of ambition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Since Twente his record is pretty poor. Such an underwhelming appointment, he's already shown he's going to be another doormat by taking on Carver, Stone et al. Worrying the same philosophies and idea or more appropriately lack there of will be allowed to remain at the club. Imagine getting a scouting report from John Carver on someone like Remy Cabella. What? Do you honestly believe what you're typing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Since Twente his record is pretty poor. Such an underwhelming appointment, he's already shown he's going to be another doormat by taking on Carver, Stone et al. Worrying the same philosophies and idea or more appropriately lack there of will be allowed to remain at the club. Imagine getting a scouting report from John Carver on someone like Remy Cabella. What? Do you honestly believe what you're typing? How would you summarise his efforts at Wolfsburg, Forest, Derby and his second spell at Twente? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Since Twente his record is pretty poor. Such an underwhelming appointment, he's already shown he's going to be another doormat by taking on Carver, Stone et al. Worrying the same philosophies and idea or more appropriately lack there of will be allowed to remain at the club. Imagine getting a scouting report from John Carver on someone like Remy Cabella. What? Do you honestly believe what you're typing? Wolfsburg, Twente again, Forest and Derby? I count three complete disasters in four, no? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Since Twente his record is pretty poor. Such an underwhelming appointment, he's already shown he's going to be another doormat by taking on Carver, Stone et al. Worrying the same philosophies and idea or more appropriately lack there of will be allowed to remain at the club. Imagine getting a scouting report from John Carver on someone like Remy Cabella. What? Do you honestly believe what you're typing? Wolfsburg, Twente again, Forest and Derby? I count three complete disasters in four, no? He didn't do great at both Wolfsburg and the short period at Forest, but his win percentage at both his second stint at Twente and Derby are pretty decent like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 The Derby squad should have romped to promotion like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Since Twente his record is pretty poor. Such an underwhelming appointment, he's already shown he's going to be another doormat by taking on Carver, Stone et al. Worrying the same philosophies and idea or more appropriately lack there of will be allowed to remain at the club. Imagine getting a scouting report from John Carver on someone like Remy Cabella. What? Do you honestly believe what you're typing? Struggling to understand what you're seeing in his post-Twente career. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Does he still do that thing where he's in the stands for the first half? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Since Twente his record is pretty poor. Such an underwhelming appointment, he's already shown he's going to be another doormat by taking on Carver, Stone et al. Worrying the same philosophies and idea or more appropriately lack there of will be allowed to remain at the club. Imagine getting a scouting report from John Carver on someone like Remy Cabella. What? Do you honestly believe what you're typing? Wolfsburg, Twente again, Forest and Derby? I count three complete disasters in four, no? He didn't do great at both Wolfsburg and the short period at Forest, but his win percentage at both his second stint at Twente and Derby are pretty decent like. "Pretty poor" was the term used and I don't see anything there that says otherwise. Derby is the obvious exception where he did well until the collapse but the collapse is ultimately what counts if you don't even manage the play offs. I'm not a big fan of win percentages. It's meaningless without wider context. His Twente performance was enough for him to resign because he felt it necessary (and fair play to him for that). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Since Twente his record is pretty poor. Such an underwhelming appointment, he's already shown he's going to be another doormat by taking on Carver, Stone et al. Worrying the same philosophies and idea or more appropriately lack there of will be allowed to remain at the club. Imagine getting a scouting report from John Carver on someone like Remy Cabella. What? Do you honestly believe what you're typing? Struggling to understand what you're seeing in his post-Twente career. Definitely read your post as 'Since his Twente record is pretty poor' - Thought it was another post undermining the acheivement of winning the dutch league. But anyway, he failed in short stints at Wolfsburg and Forest, the others he has done well. Derby have a good squad (shocking defence mind), but Norwich had the best by a mile. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 At the very least, he does seem to be pretty good at resigning once he realizes things aren't going to work out. So if you hate this appointment, I suspect you can at least look forward to another managerial "search" sometime in January. (Which will no doubt preclude any January signings as well.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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