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What's with this "worse than Pardew" shite? Are people being serious with that? Pard's was appointed after abject failure at Southampton then went on to be the biggest twat I've ever seen manage Newcastle and there have been a few.

 

If we were bringing on a random European manager with a league title to his name, a domestic trophy, a UEFA cup final and a term as manager of their national side everyone would be frothing at the gash. People would rather some guy who they've never seen over achieving with a team in some league they no nothing about. It's easier to hate a guy when you know more than one fourfourtwo article and a wiki page scan but that doesn't mean the dream appointments are free of failure.

 

It's a meh appointment and I can see how it's unpopular because it's exactly the kind of appointment we expected, indicative of the way the club is ran but they guy himself is not to blame for that. I'm guilty of all of the above but there needs to be some perspective some where between the "it's not Garde" doomsday and "it's not Carver" shrugging.

 

Pass the kool aid all that.

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Who said he's worse than Pardew?

 

Exactly :lol:

 

The rest of that post is fair enough but it only focuses on how we would react if we had attracted a foreign coach who had achieved the good things McClaren has without the obvious bad patches in his record and coming of the back of a period of five years of (mostly) failing, which provides a false picture.

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Well, clearly I've been mistaken somewhere which makes me look a right tit.

 

I'm not attempting to down play his failures but equally I think it is unfair to down play his successes. I thought the forest gig went wrong early doors because he was essentially lied to on the first day and didn't get on from there with the board? No excuses for Twente or Wolfsburg but at least he acknowledged his own failings which make him a bigger man than either of the last two clowns.

 

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Who said he's worse than Pardew?

No one per se, but there seems to be a dominant view on here that McClaren will bring more of the same, essentially suggesting that while McClaren isn't necessarily worse than Pardew, he isn't any better. Which - at this point in time - is a bit unfair I think.

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I am not angry myself really, this club will never hire a manager with proper ambition, that was always obvious. It's just underwhelming, having said that cautiously I am looking forward to hopefully an improvement on the pardew years, provided we recruit competently, even if we won't recruit anyone good enough to escape midtable

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Just accidentally clicked on the first page when opening the thread on my phone and there was an article posted slating McClaren for going to check on David Beckham in LA. Problem was he was playing in a charity match against a load of celebrities which ended 12-4. The man is a fucking idiot.

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Just accidentally clicked on the first page when opening the thread on my phone and there was an article posted slating McClaren for going to check on David Beckham in LA. Problem was he was playing in a charity match against a load of celebrities which ended 12-4. The man is a fucking idiot.

 

Had to go check that out, and I'm still pissing myself at "Richard McGough" five minutes later. :lol:

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Well, clearly I've been mistaken somewhere which makes me look a right tit.

 

I'm not attempting to down play his failures but equally I think it is unfair to down play his successes. I thought the forest gig went wrong early doors because he was essentially lied to on the first day and didn't get on from there with the board? No excuses for Twente or Wolfsburg but at least he acknowledged his own failings which make him a bigger man than either of the last two clowns.

 

 

Good job there's no chance if that here then.

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Just accidentally clicked on the first page when opening the thread on my phone and there was an article posted slating McClaren for going to check on David Beckham in LA. Problem was he was playing in a charity match against a load of celebrities which ended 12-4. The man is a f***ing idiot.

I did that on the Carver thread yesterday, everyone saying how happy they were that he was brought back to the club :lol:

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At least give him the rope to hang himself 1st.

 

He is meh and I'm not excited by the appointment particularly but coming off the back of some shocking management over the last several years then we just need to consolidate and rebuild the squad....yeah, I know it's not sexy but the club is a mess and it's not going to take 1 managerial appointment to turn it round.

 

All this constant hysteria is gonna get us a rep.....oh wait.

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At least he seems to take responsibility when his team fails. It'll be refreshing not hearing the manager/coach making excuses after a loss and a poor performance.

 

Still and underwhelming appointment though.

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If he comes with his own team, we've got a chance I think, if he works with the dross in our dugout, the whole thing is a total waste of time.

 

What do you think we've got a chance of doing?  My expectations are that we are a nothing club and this is a nothing appointment which will bring us nothing but mediocrity.

 

At this stage it looks like being a shit appointment and not a sign that we're going to try and compete for anything other than not getting relegated.  Appointing McClaren means that nothing has changed and nothing is going to change and it's shit because of that.  We're not a club that will push to be the best that it possibly can be, we're a club that wants to be safe and nothing more.

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Clutching at straws but when Souness came in with Murray & Saunders, he kept Carver on in a lower capacity and he eventually left.

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