Fugazi Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 He would argue that the ball was still there when he swung his leg, he did continue the kick when he knew the ball was gone though. Agree that a yellow card would have sufficed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jill Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 It seemed a very unnecessarily harsh kick out at Colo but while I agree with his point of view I'm not too happy that Ben Arfa felt the need to involve himself and get a booking. Need to keep cooler heads in those situations. Things like that will fire up the fans/support though. Gutted he got booked, but its class seeing the lads fight and stick up for each other like that. Surprised Rooney wasn't booked, but I don't think it was that bad. Agree it's great to see team spirit etc but silly bookings like that can turn out differently later in the game so I'm always wary and annoyed when we pick them up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 He's kicking for the ball. Obviously he's also taking the opportunity to dig at an opponent, but how exactly can it be proven that that was his only motive? Coloccini is a ridiculously calm bloke but his reaction (or lack of it) tells you everything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 He's kicking for the ball. Obviously he's also taking the opportunity to dig at an opponent, but how exactly can it be proven that that was his only motive? Coloccini is a ridiculously calm bloke but his reaction (or lack of it) tells you everything. That was my point really, you cannot send him off for it because he can hide behind the defence that it cannot be proven otherwise. (I accept I made a fairly needless and obvious point like). As for Ben Arfa, i'm sort of happy he got involved. I don't like to see our players pick up needless cards, but he atleast showed a little fight, and tried to stick up for his team mates. Stark contrast to the claims that he couldn't give a fuck during his earlier appearances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 Didn't Colo have a dirty and tough tackling reputation when we signed him? Crazy that he never reacts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 Didn't Colo have a dirty and tough tackling reputation when we signed him? Crazy that he never reacts. Apart from when he elbowed Elmander. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 Our whole team tried to kill Elmander that game tbf. Not that I can blame them, I was convinced he was worth about 40 million after that performance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 I still think that elbow was probably accidental. Not seen anything like that from him before or since. Not that he really needs a defence. In fact, I really hope he meant to do it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 Aye i thought the elbow was clumsy rather than intentional tbh; but no less savage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattypnufc Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 Won't even be shown on MOTD. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 Won't even be shown on MOTD. I think it will but only because of how Ben Arfa reacted. How dare he raise his voice to Wayne Rooney? Surprised his card wasn't red. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 It was violent conduct; the ball was no where near. He may not have lashed out full tilt but he knew full well that he was simply kicking the player cos he was there. There is no argument to be made that he could have been going for the ball, if he thought the ball was where he was kicking then he wouldn't make the cub scouts blind team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peder75 Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 That was my point really, you cannot send him off for it because he can hide behind the defence that it cannot be proven otherwise. (I accept I made a fairly needless and obvious point like). As for Ben Arfa, i'm sort of happy he got involved. I don't like to see our players pick up needless cards, but he atleast showed a little fight, and tried to stick up for his team mates. Stark contrast to the claims that he couldn't give a f*** during his earlier appearances. Agree completely. Nice to see our players are sticking up for eachother, even if it resulted in a yellow this time. Also very nice to see how quickly Colo managed to calm Ben Arfa down. The other players seem to respect him in a very good way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 Shearer will pipe up saying who is this Ben Arfa fellow? None of us have heard of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 Didn't Colo have a dirty and tough tackling reputation when we signed him? Crazy that he never reacts. Apart from when he elbowed Elmander. He gets people back with sly elbows and kicks, was rather amusing watching him do it in the Championship season where it seemed to be much more obvious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 I absolutely fucking despise Wayne Rooney. He's a good, yet hugely overrated player and an absolutely vile, slimy, cheating cunt of the highest order. Sums it right up. Ridiculously overrated player, despicible person... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 I don't think he's hugely overrated, like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 Don't think there was much in it, being a bit precious with all this assault talk IMO. If the second kick had connected it would have been a red like, ball was nowhere near at the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 Think it was a booking. He knew what he was doing though, lucky Colo didn't make more of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 Should have been booked. Pretty stupid from Rooney, he should've realised he wasn't going to get the ball (actually, looked like Colo knocked the ball away a fraction of a second beforehand) but nowhere near as much in it as people on here are suggesting IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 I don't think he's hugely overrated, like. He isn't consistent enough to deserve all of the ridiculous praise he gets when he has one of his purple patches. When he's not in form, he's absolutely turd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 Why'd Ben Arfa get booked? I didn't know shouting was a bookable offence.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tachikoma Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 I don't think he's hugely overrated, like. He isn't consistent enough to deserve all of the ridiculous praise he gets when he has one of his purple patches. When he's not in form, he's absolutely turd. Pretty much. Which is why I hate spending huge to get him on my FF team, you never know how long it lasts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 It was sommat of nowt imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 It was a bit naughty but nowt terrible. Probably deserved a yellow. Dunno why Dan Arcer got involved, like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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