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You need to play games to find your best possible form.. And not being dropped after one or two less good performances. Some players are simply not made to be subs.

 

c***s all of them!

 

Or put in a blinding performance then get dropped next game for no other reason than 'the managers an idiot'.  See Stoke in December.

 

Wasn't it against Villa that he and Remy played on each side of a striker and we did really well winning 2-1 although we looked pretty comfortable only for him to be moved to a left-midfielder in a 4-4-2 and then being blamed on for conceding three goals against Everton the following days?

While also being arguably our best player in the first half (not that that's saying much, we were f***ing woeful in that game) and then "hauled off" at half time.

 

Ben Arfa wasn't our best player in that first half, he was as woeful as the rest

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What exactly has he done to lose their 'trust'?

 

We don't really know based on that - might have been a proper bellend behind the scenes, can imagine some teammates might not be overly impressed with him being so obviously out of shape for most the season for instance.

 

I love HBA but I'm sure he's not entirely blameless in whatever's gone on.

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What exactly has he done to lose their 'trust'?

 

We don't really know based on that - might have been a proper bellend behind the scenes, can imagine some teammates might not be overly impressed with him being so obviously out of shape for most the season for instance.

 

I love HBA but I'm sure he's not entirely blameless in whatever's gone on.

 

It'll be his lack of passing if anything. Not that I think there is really anything in this at all beyond Pardew being an absolute fraud of a manager, the arch-bullshit merchant that he is.

 

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‘Hatem is in a pool of players that you can ask is he going to be a success here.

 

'If it is, then they stay. If it's not then we'll move them on.

 

‘In the short term we've given him a fitness programme because in the last few games he played for us he didn't play very well by his own admission.

 

'His confidence is a little low, and his fitness was a bit low for whatever reason.

 

‘He missed six days with a family illness so we've got some extra work into him and he looks a little bit more confident. He's not ready to start this game but he will be on the bench. He needs a good finish to the season and he's aware of that for a number of reasons.

 

‘I don't think I've ever lost patience with any player. I have been accused of that in the past but that's never been truthful.

 

'I've not lost patience with him but he has to gain the trust of not just me, but of our players and our fans that he's the real deal if he's going to play.

 

‘The bottom line with Hatem is this - don't confuse that I have a problem with his work-rate. If he's getting assists and goals, then that balances itself out. If he isn't then it isn't balancing up. He needs to get that balance right.’

 

Silly Hatem hitting the post and stuff.

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The decree from the all knowing and credible football genius that is Alan Pardew. If you don't get goals or assists, you better just run around and show some effort (Jonas).

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Little or no forward movement (from the midfield unit) means the assists will be on the lowish side. And it's difficult for the lad to carve out a wonder goal, carrying it from deep - sometimes from RB.

 

Catch 22 situation for this lad, due to how Pardoo sets the team up.

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It is understood that a group of senior players at St James' Park have expressed annoyance at Ben Arfa's lack of work-rate and discipline and have made it clear they do not believe he currently merits a starting place in Pardew's first team. While they acknowledge the 27-year-old's ability with the ball at his feet such critics feel he can be a liability when possession is lost.

 

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/mar/21/newcastle-hatem-ben-arfa-players-discipline?

 

Wonder if one of the senior players is Debuchy - his form definitely improved once he had Sissoko in front of him.

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It is understood that a group of senior players at St James' Park have expressed annoyance at Ben Arfa's lack of work-rate and discipline and have made it clear they do not believe he currently merits a starting place in Pardew's first team. While they acknowledge the 27-year-old's ability with the ball at his feet such critics feel he can be a liability when possession is lost.

 

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/mar/21/newcastle-hatem-ben-arfa-players-discipline?

 

Wonder if one of the senior players is Debuchy - his form definitely improved once he had Sissoko in front of him.

Sissoko and Cisse were hammering HBA at the Cardiff FA Cup game, giving him pelters for not closing down the keeper amongst other things.
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