Luuk de Jong signs for PSV

[indi]

I'd still take him on a season long loan if it didn't stop us signing someone better. We aren't going to sign all the strikers we need and I really do think there is some quality in there. We were pretty much safe when he signed, if we wanted a proper look at the lad he should have started every game he was fit for rather than playing Cisse or Shola.

 

But it was clear he was rubbish from early on. I'd have preferred to have played Papiss more because if we're going to persevere with an out of form player to try and get his confidence back, then I'd prefer it's one we own and not one that could have rediscovered his form and promptly fucked off somewhere else.

[mrmojorisin75]

i didn't see a lot of the lad but writing him off from playing in that team from january would be very harsh indeed iyam

[Dinho lad]

Never going to look at his best in a Pardew team with no confidence, discipline or attacking intent, however you would at least expect to see some flashes of a good player if he indeed was one, and barring a 10 minute spell on his debut he showed absolutely nothing.

 

 

But for Dummet....... we should wait until he plays under a different manager before writing him off.

 

[sempuki]

McClaren wants him at Derby if you believe the Sunday Sun.

[Cajun]

I'd still take him on a season long loan if it didn't stop us signing someone better. We aren't going to sign all the strikers we need and I really do think there is some quality in there. We were pretty much safe when he signed, if we wanted a proper look at the lad he should have started every game he was fit for rather than playing Cisse or Shola.

 

But it was clear he was rubbish from early on. I'd have preferred to have played Papiss more because if we're going to persevere with an out of form player to try and get his confidence back, then I'd prefer it's one we own and not one that could have rediscovered his form and promptly fucked off somewhere else.

 

We've had this numerous times with players who have turned out to actually be quite decent/good.

 

He came at the worst time really.

 

We were safe and the manager had already given up.

 

We weren't creating much at all.

 

The lad was already low on confidence.

 

He was basically asked to play as an attacking midfielder.

 

We had just sold our only central midfielder with any sort of creativity about him.

 

I know he already has the famous N-O cliché applied to him, this time being his shooting was as weak as piss but he hit some absolute belters in Holland and I don't believe at 23 years old you lose this. He was just a low on confidence player coming into a team that due to their hierarchy didn't care or had given up.

 

I definitely wouldn't want us to spend any significant amount of money on the lad but I would like to see him given a proper chance, especially as the one player we are willing to play up front has been out of form for so long and isn't even fit. We won't go on some massive spending spree to recruit players either so will be short for strikers and the likes are Armstrong aren't going to get a sniff. That being said Pardew is still here so there is probably no point.

[TaylorJ_01]

Why are you making excuses for every single player?

[Cajun]

Why are you making excuses for every single player?

 

Cisse? Non

 

You tell lies, IDST.

[Guest bimpy474]

Personally i think he's better than he showed, for some of the reasons Caj has stated, but he certainly didn't do himself any favours either with a serious lack of quality in his play.

[Begbie]

Outscored by Shola Ameobi...

[Cajun]

I'm not saying we should throw the transfer budget the at the lad but we clearly aren't going to fork out on a load of strikers and the lad hasn't exactly done enough demand a significant loan fee. If we can get him for a season at little to no cost we may as well as he was once very highly rated, is still young and isn't going to stop us getting better players in.

[Guest bimpy474]

I'm not saying we should throw the transfer budget the at the lad but we clearly aren't going to fork out on a load of strikers and the lad hasn't exactly done enough demand a significant loan fee. If we can get him for a season at little to no cost we may as well as he was once very highly rated, is still young and isn't going to stop us getting better players in.

 

I agree to an extent, if he was available for a very small fee i would take him but there's a very big but..... He was good in a very creative team which unfortunately he'll never get here under Pardew. From the word go under Pardew whoever was/is/will be upfront, they'll need to be able to create goals from fuck all, well scraps. Luuk doesn't look the type to do that.

[sempuki]

Think we can do a lot better personally. Looks too weak and slow for the Premiership.

[Guest bimpy474]

Think we can do a lot better personally. Looks too weak and slow for the Premiership.

 

That the overriding opinion from what i've seen, he looked pretty good against Hull but that really was it. He looks completely unsuited to Pardew's tactics of chasing around like a headless chicken, mind you, so do most of our players

[r0cafella]

Think we can do a lot better personally. Looks too weak and slow for the Premiership.

 

That the overriding opinion from what i've seen, he looked pretty good against Hull but that really was it. He looks completely unsuited to Pardew's tactics of chasing around like a headless chicken, mind you, so do most of our players

 

Yup plus his lack of form and playing time, plus settling into a new country plus Pardew and his brand of football meant this lad had no chance.

[DJ_NUFC]

You can still shoot with more power than a wet musket, with all those aforementioned, very real, factors taken into account.

 

He's a wet musket.

[Guest bimpy474]

You can still shoot with more power than a wet musket, with all those aforementioned, very real, factors taken into account.

 

He's a wet musket.

 

Aye, that's why i mentioned he hasn't helped himself either. What r0cafella just said is relevant though, imagine going to a new club in a new country, to a new team already playing shit under a manager who shows no confidence in his own players. A manager who constantly talks about how we can't compete and every team we play is quality.

 

A player lacking confidence being given to Pardew, i felt sorry for the lad, there's no way he had a chance to get any confidence back from Pardew.

[Cajun]

Said it before but look at some of his YouTube videos, unless they make different footballs in Holland the lad can definitely belt a ball into the back of a net.

 

He might not work out here, in fact I think there is a good chance he won't but there is more chance we won't sign anyone at all. I would rather we took the relatively low gamble on a 23 year old who was deemed to be worth £13m not that long ago than no one at all.

[Shearergol]

Said it before but look at some of his YouTube videos, unless they make different footballs in Holland the lad can definitely belt a ball into the back of a net.

 

He might not work out here, in fact I think there is a good chance he won't but there is more chance we won't sign anyone at all. I would rather we took the relatively low gamble on a 23 year old who was deemed to be worth £13m not that long ago than no one at all.

 

So you think we should sign him over not signing anyone.

 

Insightful.

[LoveItIfWeBeatU]

The excuses some people are giving Luuk de Jong are amazing. The majority of fans have seen the some total of nothing in him. NUFC didn't buy him so there's no need to look for a silver lining. NUFC dodged an expensive bullet when Borussia Mönchengladbach beat us to his signature. You can't blame Pardew for Luuk de Jong's performances at NUFC. Luuk was "Pardewed" long before he even got to NUFC.  He's been out of form for 2 years. The best thing for Luuk de Jong would be to go back to the Netherlands and see if he can rediscover his form.

[Cajun]

Said it before but look at some of his YouTube videos, unless they make different footballs in Holland the lad can definitely belt a ball into the back of a net.

 

He might not work out here, in fact I think there is a good chance he won't but there is more chance we won't sign anyone at all. I would rather we took the relatively low gamble on a 23 year old who was deemed to be worth £13m not that long ago than no one at all.

 

So you think we should sign him over not signing anyone.

 

Insightful.

 

So what are your thoughts?

[Shearergol]

Said it before but look at some of his YouTube videos, unless they make different footballs in Holland the lad can definitely belt a ball into the back of a net.

 

He might not work out here, in fact I think there is a good chance he won't but there is more chance we won't sign anyone at all. I would rather we took the relatively low gamble on a 23 year old who was deemed to be worth £13m not that long ago than no one at all.

 

So you think we should sign him over not signing anyone.

 

Insightful.

 

So what are your thoughts?

 

I think he's got zero chance of ever succeeding at premiership level. If we're playing the hypothetical card of him being the only striker we could ever sign then I'd still have reservations.

 

I can think of plenty of average championship strikers who would outscore him.

[Cajun]

Vague. How many would cost us nothing? Or have ever shown to do more than say Shola or Chopra?

[Guest ElCid]

I'd still take him on a season long loan if it didn't stop us signing someone better. We aren't going to sign all the strikers we need and I really do think there is some quality in there. We were pretty much safe when he signed, if we wanted a proper look at the lad he should have started every game he was fit for rather than playing Cisse or Shola.

 

But it was clear he was rubbish from early on. I'd have preferred to have played Papiss more because if we're going to persevere with an out of form player to try and get his confidence back, then I'd prefer it's one we own and not one that could have rediscovered his form and promptly f***ed off somewhere else.

 

We've had this numerous times with players who have turned out to actually be quite decent/good.

 

He came at the worst time really.

 

We were safe and the manager had already given up.

 

We weren't creating much at all.

 

The lad was already low on confidence.

 

He was basically asked to play as an attacking midfielder.

 

We had just sold our only central midfielder with any sort of creativity about him.

 

I know he already has the famous N-O cliché applied to him, this time being his shooting was as weak as p*ss but he hit some absolute belters in Holland and I don't believe at 23 years old you lose this. He was just a low on confidence player coming into a team that due to their hierarchy didn't care or had given up.

 

I definitely wouldn't want us to spend any significant amount of money on the lad but I would like to see him given a proper chance, especially as the one player we are willing to play up front has been out of form for so long and isn't even fit. We won't go on some massive spending spree to recruit players either so will be short for strikers and the likes are Armstrong aren't going to get a sniff. That being said Pardew is still here so there is probably no point.

 

You can quote as may lines as you want to but he is utter shit and has proven that in the two major leagues he has played in. If he is the type of player we are going to sign we will be relegated without a doubt.

[Cajun]

Proven = barely played.

 

Never claimed he was class, good or even half decent. The fact is we don't currently have a single fit forward that Pardew will play up front so if this lad is available on the cheap I'd rather give him a change than no-one at all. We aren't going to shell out on a load of strikers who will instantly fit in and score goals, that is one of the few thing I am comfortable of.

[The Bard of Byker]

Poop de Wrong.

 

NPW.