Kimbo Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 "Trust me, we'll be a top ten team next year." GERRIN!! I was sick in my mouth when I saw him talking about next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 "Trust me, we'll be a top ten team next year." GERRIN!! Comfortable mid table obscurity! WOOPTY FUCKING DO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 "Trust me, we'll be a top ten team next year." GERRIN!! Comfortable mid table obscurity! WOOPTY f***ing DO Watch him start saying we're pushing for Europe - despite him hating it all season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistle17 Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 I think I saw a couple of people on here during the week saying 'give him till Christmas and if he's cack; sack him then.' Well, I assume that will mean we'll be diabolical (again). So that'll be ANOTHER season written off at this god forsaken club. Yay. The second we're declared safe this season get rid of this tosser. Devastatingly, I predict we'll be starting next season with him. There's no way I can watch this (x2) all over again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistle17 Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 "Trust me, we'll be a top ten team next year." GERRIN!! Comfortable mid table obscurity! WOOPTY f***ing DO Watch him start saying we're pushing for Europe - despite him hating it all season. Aye! Stupid cunt will be preaching about qualifying for Europe as the holy grail, the bare minimum requirement for us to 'compete'. Then just play all the kids once we get in it and call them shit. Good man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 Amongst other things I just don't see why we'll suddenly have no injuries next season, which is what I hear him hanging his hat on now in interviews. All his positivity seems to be based upon having a fit squad to "attack" next season with. I also don't trust anyone who manages to shoe-horn the phrase "trust me" into every single media interview I watch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 Amongst other things I just don't see why we'll suddenly have no injuries next season, which is what I hear him hanging his hat on now in interviews. All his positivity seems to be based upon having a fit squad to "attack" next season with. I also don't trust anyone who manages to shoe-horn the phrase "trust me" into every single media interview I watch. I've said the same recently, it does my head in because the only people I've met who repeatedly said it were liars. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 Don't think I've ever been as unattached to football as I have been this season. To basically see the same s*** week in, week out has been a f***ing chore and to be honest, my enjoyment for the game has diminished rather quickly, that win against Chelsea and our Europa League run have been the only positives from this turgid season. I know there's other things to life other than football but I can't help but feel that the game is an important part of my life, it's just how it is and to receive no enjoyment for it is really saddening. Pardew's endless list of excuses, his tactics, the f***ing 3-0 loss to the Mackems...sad to say this but f*** football man, it's basically ruined the majority of my weekends and I'm now holding Pardew mainly (not wholly) responsible for this sort of apathy - there's a lot of other factors that have contributed to this season's shitness as well such as s*** refereeing and a lack of investment in the summer. Football can be a fickle game mind and I have been guilty of that on a fair few occasions but it's becoming increasingly difficult to keep my faith in a man who has f***ed up in his role big time. Credit when credit is due and criticism when criticism is due and he is rightly receiving a lot of criticism. Have you only been following us for a couple of years? The seasons under Souness were far worse. The Souness era was f***ing horrendous - this is an undeniable fact. The man was an absolute c*** and undid all the good work Bobby did. The only direction you saw with Souness was a downward spiral. This season does have some parallels with back then though - this season really is just as bad in terms of performances. In terms of the individual, I am by no means saying that Pardew reminds of Souness - the two are nothing alike, for one thing their management styles are so much different (and Pardew is a more likeable person). The issues with Pardew that's got me down about football this season are his empty promises (he's gone back on his ways/style of last season), his consistent negative approach/overall cowardliness (sitting deep instead of pushing on) and his apparent refusal to change - his inability to adapt during the game being an example. Our set pieces are a disgrace and any sort of fight/passion isn't really there anymore (I can only recall 3 occasions when we've fought until the very end). In addition, he's had a go at the youngsters, he doesn't speak the truth anymore in his post-match interviews (something he did most of the time last season) and does not take any responsibility for any of our failures. Furthermore, the fact that I expect every away game to go the way of the opposition and the fact that we're in April and we're still talking about a relegation fight speaks volumes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 Well done for eloquently standing up for yourself in response to a daft cunt trying to belittle you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 Good post Sif. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mistle17 Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 I'm amazed at how lenient the media have been on him this season. In years gone by its only taken a couple of losses and all of a sudden the worlds caving in on Barrack Road. And none of those managers were responsible for our worst derby loss in over 30 years. I'm quite amazed, actually. I'm assuming its the absence of any fan pressure being made apparent at SJP, but to think that we're in grave danger of relegation (I reckon we'll finish 17th) is just unforgivable and Pardew can count himself unbelievably fortunate so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 Did I honestly hear him talk about the state of the pitch in his bbc interview? Dear oh dear Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 "Trust me, we'll be a top ten team next year." GERRIN!! Aye, in what fucking league though? Fucking cunt. Also, top 10, we were top 5 last season and in my opinion we have a much better squad now then we did 12 months ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JS Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 I'm amazed at how lenient the media have been on him this season. In years gone by its only taken a couple of losses and all of a sudden the worlds caving in on Barrack Road. And none of those managers were responsible for our worst derby loss in over 30 years. I'm quite amazed, actually. I'm assuming its the absence of any fan pressure being made apparent at SJP, but to think that we're in grave danger of relegation (I reckon we'll finish 17th) is just unforgivable and Pardew can count himself unbelievably fortunate so far. He seems to give them (the press et al) a lot of time and stuff to throw in stories, the same sort of way Redknapp does. I'm not surprised they're letting him off quite a bit. He's a good talker is Pardew, with the list of excuses to match. He's painting a picture where it's everything but him that's to blame - people at the training ground, the condition of the pitch, injuries. We've all heard this tripe for long enough now to call bullshit on it. I do think there are a good portion of people giving him the benefit of the doubt due to last seasons achievement though - in the eyes of many, calling for last seasons manager of the year etc sounds ridiculous on the face of it. The change in emotion from today to this time last year is incredible though.. I genuinely didn't feel that great when we scored and instantly turned to thinking how long it would take West Brom to equalise. It's just becoming so predictable and uninspiring and the final straw for me was the way this utter gobshite seemed to hold them in higher regard, as if a draw with this lot was something to aspire to. We came up with these fuckers from the championship when they were 2nd best to us ffs and even through their managerial change have looked a much better and more organised team despite big parts of their team being utter shite. I was on a fine line with Pardew for a while now but this was it for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 It seems that with each performance there's someone new that sees it as the final straw for them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hatem garrincha Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 He got the players to play very good and lovely football but he does nowt with them. A very limited manager seriously. It seems the players like him though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 With the exception of QPR, who sacked Hughes, and Villa, still suffering after MON, we are the worst performing team vs. our position in the wages league. Surely Ashley can see he's not getting value for money. The league is full of managers doing better with poorer players. All of them will be working within financial restraints and will be told to keep off the subject, so the spin aspect of Pardew is hardly exceptional either. Pardew's spin has already worn extremely thin. As fans, we all know Pardew isn't making sense, but he's not making sense for the owners either. It's not as if better tactics would cost them any money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 The players probably like him but there's a massive lack of respect evident when they step onto the pitch. They're playing like they know he's finished and will do that pathetic thing of upping their game when the new manager comes in. Nobody can think the players are playing for him because they're just not and haven't been for quite a while on the whole. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Toon Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 It is a mystery that the press and crowd are not going after this charlatan of a manager, not only for the results but more importantly for the rank dire football we play every week. We all have a vested interest in watching our games, but for a neutral its on par with Stoke for ugliness. Interestingly (not really and not surprisingly) the press are not on Redknapp's case either, despite him inheriting an expensive bunch of tosspots and adding Reme, Samba and Townshend etc to the squad. His record is worse than Hughes and Warnock. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 If Pardew is giving the press an easy time with plenty of meaningless quotes, they will be quite happy NOT to get on his case as long as the fans don't - after all, the fans are the ones who buy the papers and if they think the press are out of line with their coverage of club and manager, they won't buy the papers... Its a chicken and egg thing - fans read only good things about Pardew so don't aggravate for his removal; press see that no chants/anti feelings being expressed about Pardew at SJP so go along with what they see as tacit approval for the manager. It is only when fans begin to want the manager out that the press will jump on the band-wagon. Reporters are lazy swines and want to get their stuff into the editorial dept and head off for the pub - although Dalglish had a better record than Pardew when he was here and the players liked him(because he kept any criticism from them), the media were on his back as soon as we faltered because he was obstructive with them and didn't trust them. The players we have now will only like Pardew if he defends them all the time and gives them an easy ride in training ; whether they actually RESPECT him I would doubt...most of them are internationals and will compare notes about managers at international get-togethers as well as comparing him to those they have had before..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 pleased he mentioned how good the clubs financial position is in his post match comments, that's got to be worth another point hasn't it? hasn't it? otherwise why mention it... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Fuck me. Clicked on the "last read" post for me in this thread and it was on p817...but that was less than a week ago. 123 pages in less than a week? Don't hold back lads, let it all out . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 I think this season and Souness' only full season were in such different circumstances that it's difficult to compare the two and choose which was 'worse'. Souness was an absolutely tragic experience because: A. It was clear from day one it was never going to work. That made things just so, agonizingly, frustrating from the word go. B. Not only were we terrible, we were terrible off the back of an absolutely brilliant few years - with an extremely popular manager - where we even looked capable of winning the title. Again, just beyond frustrating, and that bowled over into serious anger and unrest. C. Although Souness was at the crux of the matter, there were other things where frustration/anger/hatred emanated from. The squad, for example, was barely likeable - which is the polar opposite of this squad. I can't think of any players in our squad that I actually dislike (maybe Tiote). This season has just been deflating - from the very beginning of the summer transfer window. Just a total missed opportunity. After the promise of last season, so many likeable players (a likeable manager, too) - and it's just sapped away all season. The situations are different - both were/are God-awful seasons (you can chuck Roeder's in there as well, which was utter pish). The only constant is the bad manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 People seem to have took the "deluded Geordie" tag to heart and are trying everything in their power to be as passive as possible, despite our manager clearly not fit for purpose. :thup: Absolutely spot on. We've got a generation of fans who crave "stability" more than they crave winning games. After relegation and suffering Ashley's approach to running a football club fans are now scared of what comes next. Under Freddie we would be screaming for blood, banners sit down protests the lot to get Pardew out but I feel most are terrified of who Ashley would bring in. With Freddie we knew it would be some kind of top well respected manager but Ashley it could be out of the frying pan into the fire. Even if he did go after some sort of well respected to manager I think we all know there is very little chance of them wanting to come here and work for him and Lambias. I know its not good and both Pardew and the players seem to have lost their way but I do not believe we "over performed" last season I do believe though we have better players. Stay up give him 10 games next season if it does not look any better than I will be making a banner myself but until then we have no choice but to get behind him as he is going nowhere for now. Enjoy the mediocrity then - if he stays for long, Ashley is going to have to start giving seats away cheaply like the Mackems did in order to get people in. We once had a 20,000 waiting list for STs...not now..... Incidentally, how are you so certain that Di Canio is going to be the disaster you seem to think ?? His record at Swindon is decent and he certainly doesn't have the record of being sacked that Pardew has. Southampton have had 2 managers since they fired Pardew in 2010 and each one has proved to be better than Pardew because they have progressed as a club since Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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