AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Corners are much less threatening than people think in general, but ours are still poo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Corners are much less threatening than people think in general, but ours are still poo. Apparently Man City scored 15 goals (16% of total league goals) from corners last season while Man U have scored 13 from corners so far this season. That's a huge number to be considered 'less threatening' than perceived. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Corners are much less threatening than people think in general, but ours are still poo. Apparently Man City scored 15 goals (16% of total league goals) from corners last season while Man U have scored 13 from corners so far this season. That's a huge number to be considered 'less threatening' than perceived. How do they compare to other sides? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/9156/cornergoals.jpg Numbers til October this season, with an average of 13.74% which is pretty significant if I must say. I'll try to find more up-to-date data. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Aye, but the percentages and a bit misleading aren't they? Most teams only got one or two goals from corners. Anyway, ours are poor as I said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 1 or 2 goals from corners if you managed to score ten league goals is significant iyam. Using the average conversion and our current goal tally, it would have meant we would have scored an additional 4 corner goals this season so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Floated set penises to Mbiwa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 1 or 2 goals from corners if you managed to score ten league goals is significant iyam. Using the average conversion and our current goal tally, it would have meant we would have scored an additional 4 corner goals this season so far. Well arguably, but how many corners did it take? Obviously it's significant in terms of goal total, but it doesn't mean corners are a good way to score goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 I've got it into my head that if we could just replace Williamson in the starting 11 then it will filter down and the team will start winning again? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 1 or 2 goals from corners if you managed to score ten league goals is significant iyam. Using the average conversion and our current goal tally, it would have meant we would have scored an additional 4 corner goals this season so far. Well arguably, but how many corners did it take? Obviously it's significant in terms of goal total, but it doesn't mean corners are a good way to score goals. Same way as you will argue the % of goals from open play scored from chances created (conversion rate). In fact, if we were to consider the effectiveness of corner goals, we will have to compare %conversion from corners against that from open play to have our verdict. Ultimately, those teams are creating enough chances/corners and converting them to account for a good % of their goals. The fact is even with a fair number of corners this season, we have massively disappointed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 On the subject of corners, it is interesting to note the number of goals conceded from corners as well. (Data for last season, til April) Team Goals scored from corners Goals conceded from corners Aggregate goals from corners Man City 12 2 +10 West Brom 6 1 +5 Man Utd 7 3 +4 Norwich 7 3 +4 Chelsea 4 0 +4 Everton 5 2 +3 Sunderland 4 1 +3 Wolves 6 5 +1 Tottenham 5 4 +1 Blackburn 8 8 0 Stoke 4 5 -1 Arsenal 3 4 -1 Liverpool 5 7 -2 Fulham 3 5 -2 Newcastle 1 3 -2 QPR 3 6 -3 Swansea 3 6 -3 Wigan 3 6 -3 Bolton 3 10 -7 Aston Villa 0 11 -11 How many have we conceded so far this season? The two from Man U, Reading(?), Ba's derby o.g. springs to mind atm. Defensively we are wank from corners too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
localshop Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 With Mbiwa and Sissoko (fingers crossed) and no more Williamson, I'm confident we will score from a set piece before the end of the season. Then we will be able to seal this thread in a lead box and bury it at the bottom of the ocean as it harbours a lot of bad energy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TCD23 Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 To be fair it wasn't really Williamson not being able to head it and more the fact that the delivery has been shite. Is it that hard not to keep chipping it to the end of box where we lose every header and instead put it in the six yard box? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 It's a lot too ask anyone to score direct with a header from a floater, just whip it in man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 With Mbiwa and Sissoko (fingers crossed) and no more Williamson, I'm confident we will score from a set piece before the end of the season. Then we will be able to seal this thread in a lead box and bury it at the bottom of the ocean as it harbours a lot of bad energy. We scored from a set piece last week, like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Cabaye steps up to take corner - "Où est Mike Williamson?" On the mother effing bench. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 I can just see it now, as Cabaye starts to take a corner, Williamson jumps off the bench and starts running towards the box, Cabaye takes it a he gets to the edge of the box, Williamson gets a firm head on it, and the ball goes out of the stadium. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 He'll just float it over to the bench, pas de probleme. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonsays Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Corners are much less threatening than people think in general, but ours are still poo. Someone sent in a book proposal on sporting statistics to the publisher where I work - in it was a stat that only 2.5% of corners (put directly into the box) taken in the premier league resulted in goals and that staistically teams would be much better off taking the corner short and keeping possession. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 There's a goal scored from a set-piece in 1 out of every 2 football matches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 There's a goal scored from a set-piece in 1 out of every 2 football matches. How many set pieces are there? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Corners are much less threatening than people think in general, but ours are still poo. Someone sent in a book proposal on sporting statistics to the publisher where I work - in it was a stat that only 2.5% of corners (put directly into the box) taken in the premier league resulted in goals and that staistically teams would be much better off taking the corner short and keeping possession. How does that compare to other attacks though? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Colossus Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 I can just see it now, as Cabaye starts to take a corner, Williamson jumps off the bench and starts running towards the box, Cabaye takes it a he gets to the edge of the box, Williamson gets a firm head on it, and the ball goes out of the stadium. I was getting so excited before the end of this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
henke Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 It's a lot too ask anyone to score direct with a header from a floater, just whip it in man. This is a massive part of the problem for us. Not only free kicks and corners but delivery from open play. On one side Santon cannot put crosses in with his weaker foot, and up until recently Danny Simpson had a 9 iron for a foot. I've been saying for long enough whip the fucker in with pace on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 We've not stopped since we started doing it with Barton to Carroll. We don't have the players now. Try telling Pardew that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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