Mick Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 People act like the referees are going to make the proper decision if people don't make it obvious they were fouled. This simply is not the case. You shouldn't go down unless you have no way of staying on your feet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 As a professional player you'd think players would take pride in not going down like a gun was fired at first sign of contact in the box to gain a penalty kick and send off your opponent. I recall years ago Robbie Fowler getting a penalty in his favor which he did not agree with and he pleaded for it to not be a penalty. You just don't see that anymore man it's a shame. Way too many fouls and cards these days, people say "it's rule of the game" Etc, but well..,those rules are crap and need some changing. It's senseless stuff how many yellows were brandished today for soft tackles. I'll always point to the Callum Macca tackle not getting a single punishment, card nothing. But Mapou puts his hand on the back/arm of Suarez who goes down instantly and it's within the rules to send him off. Great rules. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Mags Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 Kanji nailed it. Bang on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 I thought you were a warrior, Baba. Right to pretend to be felled? I didn't think you'd be into that sort of thing at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 He wont be embarrassed when he gets his win bonus. He gets a win bonus for a draw? Did he know he was getting a draw at the time? So he'll get a win bonus because he thought that he would at the time? OK. Are you daft lad? Pay particular attention to the contemporary meaning of the word ''lad'' by the way, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 Are you daft lad? Pay particular attention to the contemporary meaning of the word ''lad'' by the way, Of course I'm daft, I didn't know Suarez got a win bonus for a draw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 Imo the arched back and pained expression that is the hallmark of an exaggerated fall should negate the foul. Sturridge's fall under Cabaye's challenge to win a penalty at SJP two seasons ago was utterly cringeworthy and should have been a free kick our way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 As a professional player you'd think players would take pride in not going down like a gun was fired at first sign of contact in the box to gain a penalty kick and send off your opponent. I recall years ago Robbie Fowler getting a penalty in his favor which he did not agree with and he pleaded for it to not be a penalty. You just don't see that anymore man it's a shame. Way too many fouls and cards these days, people say "it's rule of the game" Etc, but well..,those rules are crap and need some changing. It's senseless stuff how many yellows were brandished today for soft tackles. I'll always point to the Callum Macca tackle not getting a single punishment, card nothing. But Mapou puts his hand on the back/arm of Suarez who goes down instantly and it's within the rules to send him off. Great rules. Fowler then promptly tried to score from that falsely earned penalty and Liverpool did eventually score because footballers are paid to win matches and should try everything outside of blatant cheating to reach that goal. For me, there is a difference between a dive and falling when you have been adversely contacted. That contact from Yanga-Mbiwa on Suarez looks light, but at full speed this is more than enough to send someone off balance for .5 seconds, which is enough to end a goalscoring chance when a keeper who is also running full speed is a few yards away. If the illegal contact from our player means that his chance of scoring has been lessened by any amount, it is the proper decision to go down. Call me when the guy actually dives or starts biting again, I will join the outrage. I thought you were a warrior, Baba. Right to pretend to be felled? I didn't think you'd be into that sort of thing at all. IS THIS WAR? War, where massive entities pay sums in the millions to simply subsist and take the profit from clubs with no desire to compete. War, where small contacts are harshly punished by an arbitrary judge and losses rarely affect the players. The arena of sport is much different. If we are playing a serious game with refs, I will act accordingly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 What the hell are you talking about? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 Imo the arched back and pained expression that is the hallmark of an exaggerated fall should negate the foul. Sturridge's fall under Cabaye's challenge to win a penalty at SJP two seasons ago was utterly cringeworthy and should have been a free kick our way. http://www.liverpoolsite.com/media/galeria/110/4/7/3/9/n_liverpool_fc_match_day_31_newcastle_united_fc_vs_liverpool_f_c-4319374.jpg Same old Liverpool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 I can only recall two blatant dives in my time watching Newcastle. Southgate on Ambrose against Boro in 03/04, Shearer scored the resulting penalty, and Duff against Zulte Waregem in 06/07, Martins scored the pen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 Jonas does what Suarez did every time he's on the pitch. Just on the half way line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 S.Taylor against Sunderland in the 1-1 at home. Very much a dive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fugazi Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 Apparently the word 'future' doesn't appear in the cirriculum in Wallsend. I am shocked. curriculum Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 Ben Arfa vs Liverpool, the 2-0 game. The standard hand on shoulder - legs paralyzed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 Ben Arfa vs Man Utd, Perch vs Liverpool? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 They might be hitting a pressure point tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 Ben Arfa vs Man Utd, Perch vs Liverpool? Never a dive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 Nah, was a good tackle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 It was a foul, it was a red card, nothing more needed tbh. Mbiwa was unlucky in the fact Tiote never got out quick enough resulting in Mbiwa then having to give chase, Suarez's first touch to take it into his stride was exceptional though as it gave Mbiwa pretty much no chance of getting back at him. He shouldn’t have made the contact, as although it was likely Suarez would score, he still had work to do in beating Krul. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
basjen Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 That contact from Yanga-Mbiwa on Suarez looks light, but at full speed this is more than enough to send someone off balance for .5 seconds, which is enough to end a goalscoring chance when a keeper who is also running full speed is a few yards away I'm with you on this one, but I don't even think it's that light a touch. If you see the replay from behind Yanga jumps while holding onto Suarez' shoulder, and even changes his direction mid-air from the momentum. Blatant pelanty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 That contact from Yanga-Mbiwa on Suarez looks light, but at full speed this is more than enough to send someone off balance for .5 seconds, which is enough to end a goalscoring chance when a keeper who is also running full speed is a few yards away I'm with you on this one, but I don't even think it's that light a touch. If you see the replay from behind Yanga jumps while holding onto Suarez' shoulder, and even changes his direction mid-air from the momentum. Blatant pelanty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 I wonder what Chris Waddle's doing now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 I wonder what Chris Waddle's doing now. He was commentating on our match for Al Jazeera yesterday. And he did actually call it a pelanty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 Most footballers would do it these days, but particularly Suarez. This is true but he should have known this, know your opponent and in this case know you do not put hands on him in the box. Had he let him go through may have been 1-1 but we would still have 11 men. Krul may have even got a block in, these are the things he will learn from though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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