Swissmag Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Bellamy had 28 in 93 and he was one of the best players we've had in the PL era. good point Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Long is not fit to lace Bellamy's boots tbh but he'd offer some of the things he did. Gouffran does too, but Long could do a job up top on his own and has a better leap on him. Not a huge fan but if he was on a free or cheap in January could do worse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 I like Long, though I think January will only be about knockdown bids for near-Bosman players (Gomis, Ince etc). January is the new summer!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 I like Long, though I think January will only be about knockdown bids for near-Bosman players (Gomis, Ince etc). January is the new summer!!! Isn't Long out of contract summer 2014? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapo Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Yeah, think Hull had a 6m fee agreed for him in August so he'll be going for considerably less in Jan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 I like Long, though I think January will only be about knockdown bids for near-Bosman players (Gomis, Ince etc). January is the new summer!!! Isn't Long out of contract summer 2014? Thought I read WBA had the option for a fourth. Regardless, I'm surprised he only got a 3 year contract. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Gouffran's record is even worse. He's been one of our best players this season. Gouffran played as a winger pretty much his entire career apart from one season.... the comparison doesn't make sense on any level. Bellamy had 28 in 93 and he was one of the best players we've had in the PL era. Bellamy was 21 when we signed him, Long is 26.... plus Bellamy offers much more than just goals or making runs in behind so again the comparison again doesn't make sense on any level. Plus we already have our new Bellamy in Remy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 We need a squad and we have a tight as fuck owner. A selection of Gouffran, Remy, Cisse, Ben Arfa, Long and someone really good to play through the centre doesn't look bad at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Long's not a bad player to have in the squad. Especially with Shola being first-choice striker off the bench. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Gouffran's record is even worse. He's been one of our best players this season. Gouffran played as a winger pretty much his entire career apart from one season.... the comparison doesn't make sense on any level. He's played across the entire front line for us and has looked erratic at best in front of goal. Incidentally he's also had more shots at goal per game than Long, which like Long's goal record also mean fuck all considering we know neither are great goalscorers. I doubt he'd be anyone's first choice but considering our transfer policy he'd probably be a good buy for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Long is not a great footballer but is really fast and will run all day. He is not a poacher in the slightest bit, more of a target man with a big leap. Not very skilful either, his athleticism is his main asset. Better than Shola by a mile to be fair. Would love to see him play for us as he is from my local area originally Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Never seen him run that fast, tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Destroyed Colo for pace iirc but then that's still not that fast Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 38-year-old Ryan Giggs did Colo for pace, to be fair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 We need a squad and we have a tight as f*** owner. A selection of Gouffran, Remy, Cisse, Ben Arfa, Long and someone really good to play through the centre doesn't look bad at all. None of them are the CF who can hold the ball up type we need though.... when you build a squad it would be a good idea to get a selection of different types to compliment each other and not just a random selection of forwards because it causes imbalance in the squad. Getting a big guy whose not a total hack with the ball at his feet would be the best considering the needs of the squad. Also the reason i was so fixated on goals in my earlier post is because we are desperate for a big man who can score goals that we can rely upon..... if we already had that guy then getting Long as a squad option would be fine and dandy. Talking about getting squad options is nice and all.... but we don't even have a first eleven yet might be a good idea to sort that out first. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 We need a squad and we have a tight as f*** owner. A selection of Gouffran, Remy, Cisse, Ben Arfa, Long and someone really good to play through the centre doesn't look bad at all. None of them are the CF who can hold the ball up type we need though.... when you build a squad it would be a good idea to get a selection of different types to compliment each other and not just a random selection of forwards because it causes imbalance in the squad. Getting a big guy whose not a total hack with the ball at his feet would be the best considering the needs of the squad. Also the reason i was so fixated on goals in my earlier post is because we are desperate for a big man who can score goals that we can rely upon..... if we already had that guy then getting Long as a squad option would be fine and dandy. Talking about getting squad options is nice and all.... but we don't even have a first eleven yet might be a good idea to sort that out first. Sorry but that really doesn't make any difference to what I said. If Long is out of contract in the summer he would cost a pittance. We SHOULD be able to afford him and someone better. If it was a choice between a real quality centre forward or Long then the choice is easy but we need both (doesn't have to be long but we need 2 forwards). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 I rate Long. A sort of poor man's Bellamy. Decent comparison, although annoyingly only ever when he's facing us - other times he just looks really, really ordinary and susceptible to injury. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 We need a squad and we have a tight as f*** owner. A selection of Gouffran, Remy, Cisse, Ben Arfa, Long and someone really good to play through the centre doesn't look bad at all. None of them are the CF who can hold the ball up type we need though.... when you build a squad it would be a good idea to get a selection of different types to compliment each other and not just a random selection of forwards because it causes imbalance in the squad. Getting a big guy whose not a total hack with the ball at his feet would be the best considering the needs of the squad. Also the reason i was so fixated on goals in my earlier post is because we are desperate for a big man who can score goals that we can rely upon..... if we already had that guy then getting Long as a squad option would be fine and dandy. Talking about getting squad options is nice and all.... but we don't even have a first eleven yet might be a good idea to sort that out first. Sorry but that really doesn't make any difference to what I said. If Long is out of contract in the summer he would cost a pittance. We SHOULD be able to afford him and someone better. If it was a choice between a real quality centre forward or Long then the choice is easy but we need both (doesn't have to be long but we need 2 forwards). Think about the wages man, your going to turn us into Leeds mk2. In all seriousness that is fair enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 The Irleand striker has nine months left on his deal, plus a one-year option in the club's favour, but negotiations over an extension have stalled. http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/oct/22/west-bromwich-albion-shane-long-contract Not getting always for cheap. He was going to Hull for ~£6m last summer until talks collapsed very late into the window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 He looks a good all-round striker to me, but I'm a bit worried that he's out of favour at West Brom. I wonder what the catch is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Decent player Long imo, right menace on the pitch and gets on defenders nerves. We could do far worse whilst JFK is at the controls. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Never been that impressed with him for Ireland, but then Trapattoni never exactly set up teams that played to his attackers' strengths. Think we'd benefit far more from a Gomis type who is effective holding the ball up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 The Irleand striker has nine months left on his deal, plus a one-year option in the club's favour, but negotiations over an extension have stalled. http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/oct/22/west-bromwich-albion-shane-long-contract Not getting always for cheap. He was going to Hull for ~£6m last summer until talks collapsed very late into the window. did talks collapse ? I thought it didn't go through because their deal for another year of lukaku went goodison-way and they didn't want to be left short. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 I think Long would be a serious lowering of standards. I think we can find someone better, even if we're in this buy cheap era. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 I'd take Shane Long. Would do a job and is good in the air (something that we lack up front, since Ba left) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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