The Managerial Merry Go Round™

[The Bonk]

Everton should be chatting with a few names right now. If Bielsa is looking for a gig, you’d want the owners speaking with him immediately if you’re a Scouse Mackem.

[nufcjb]

Boos ringinng around the half empty London stadium at full time. Moyes has spent a shitload of money in the summer yet they're not pushing on as expected.

 

 

Edited November 12, 2022 by nufcjb

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29 minutes ago, cubaricho said:

Commentators here saying “I think this result puts Lampard under pressure” like he isn’t already?  

I don't actually think he was to be honest, especially with the Everton fans, that'll change now though.

[Decky]

6 games without a win for Potter now is it?

[Pilko]

Potter has more chance of getting a win at Quidditch with that shite Chelsea side.

[gbandit]

Will be interesting to see how long it takes Potter to get that side playing at its best, it’s not happening soon and how big will they go in the January window? If it doesn’t go well after some big signings hopefully Boehly shits all over his kegs and makes another change 

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[joeyt]

Moyes has credit in the bank but West Ham are really struggling

[jackyboy]

Can see Frank the Tory and Miserable Moyes being out of work soon

[elbee909]

10 minutes ago, jackyboy said:

Can see Frank the Tory and Miserable Moyes being out of work soon

 

Swap clubs probably 

[toon25]

Can see Poch heading to West Ham.

 

I reckon the other lot will let Fat Wank take them down.

[brummie]

For those tedious British-manager-backers in the media. Us this season:

With Gerrard: 9 points - PL11 W2 D3 L6 F7

After Gerrard: 9 points - P4 W3 D0 L1 F9

[Tiresias]

Absolutely dreading Gerrard getting the England job

[Ben]

I listened to Matty Cash this morning and he was explaining on what Emery has changed, it was just like our players after Howe came in, longer sessions, more detail, defending situations rather than people in the box, talking to players individually and just overall better organisation. 

 

As for Gerrard getting the England job, I'm just anyone but Howe TBF

[The Bonk]

20 hours ago, Tiresias said:

Absolutely dreading Gerrard getting the England job

 

You'd think the old boys club of the FA wouldn't been too keen on Stevie G's mobbed up mates. If Potter gets the sack at Chelsea, he's nailed on for it.

[Tiresias]

the people calling for Potter to England don't understand football I mean and I do not mean this at all in a bad way about Potter. Potter at brighton built a brick and mortar system with players all signed to fit the system and all understanding fairly complex tactical demands. You quite simply a) do not get the time to do this with players at international level and b) you are on a hiding for nothing picking players for a specialized system for England as you will get torn apart the first time you don't play the next big thing(tm) who may be in excellent form but doesn't want to press high and recycle possession. 

 

Unless we say ok for the next 10 years England play potterball, if you can't play potterball you won't make the england team it makes little sense. And after all that does anyone know if potterball would work at knockout international tournaments?

 

I do want a manager with some level of identity, but I don't think you can have someone who is very very wedded to a particular style, or whose identity is too different than that most players are playing under. I think Howe (and no I don't think he is interested in managing international football) is much better suited, he has not got quite that distinct a style of play and is more about getting intensity out of the players and seems open to changing formation/style. 

 

Honestly though, I think you would struggle to find a manager doing well in the premier league who would be hugely interested in the job, international footy management is not going to replace the thrill of taking over a team week in week out. it will go to Potter, the team will have glimpses of good play but be a soft touch and we'll be back to square one and Potter's reputation will be unfairly tarnished. 

 

I may be very wrong on Potter, Brighton fans feel free to correct me, I rate him but he feels a guy who needs a while go get going and needs a lot of time to build what he wants. 

 

[The Bonk]

36 minutes ago, Tiresias said:

the people calling for Potter to England don't understand football I mean and I do not mean this at all in a bad way about Potter. Potter at brighton built a brick and mortar system with players all signed to fit the system and all understanding fairly complex tactical demands. You quite simply a) do not get the time to do this with players at international level and b) you are on a hiding for nothing picking players for a specialized system for England as you will get torn apart the first time you don't play the next big thing(tm) who may be in excellent form but doesn't want to press high and recycle possession. 

 

Unless we say ok for the next 10 years England play potterball, if you can't play potterball you won't make the england team it makes little sense. And after all that does anyone know if potterball would work at knockout international tournaments?

 

I do want a manager with some level of identity, but I don't think you can have someone who is very very wedded to a particular style, or whose identity is too different than that most players are playing under. I think Howe (and no I don't think he is interested in managing international football) is much better suited, he has not got quite that distinct a style of play and is more about getting intensity out of the players and seems open to changing formation/style. 

 

Honestly though, I think you would struggle to find a manager doing well in the premier league who would be hugely interested in the job, international footy management is not going to replace the thrill of taking over a team week in week out. it will go to Potter, the team will have glimpses of good play but be a soft touch and we'll be back to square one and Potter's reputation will be unfairly tarnished. 

 

I may be very wrong on Potter, Brighton fans feel free to correct me, I rate him but he feels a guy who needs a while go get going and needs a lot of time to build what he wants. 

 

 

I get what you're saying, but you can also argue managing a team like Chelsea is very similar to England. A squad full of mostly international players that get selected for their country. Managing ego, European play, Cups, squad rotation to keep star players happy and adjusting systems to player strength is the England job most of the year. Potter might actually fancy the step back after running the Chelsea juggernaut. 

It's all hyperbole at this point, as I imagine he'll come good with Chelsea post WC.

[Deuce]

Could probably solve a lot of the handwringing about the next England manager if they considered hiring someone who wasn’t English.

 

If the pool at this point is three people…expand the pool…

 

 

Edited November 14, 2022 by Tomato Deuce

[Manxst]

4 minutes ago, Tomato Deuce said:

Could probably solve a lot of the handwringing about the next England manager if they considered hiring someone who wasn’t English.

 

If the pool at this point is three people…expand the pool…

 

 

 

FA got their hands burnt with Capello and prefer to have continuity via home grown coaches. 

[LFEE]

 

[Kimbo]

Long commute from Merseyside.

[Facundo Ferreyra]

6 minutes ago, LFEE said:

 

 

You checked the bio for that account? 

[Deuce]

 

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[Guest]

'Minimum 3.5 years'. If he lasts longer than half of that he's done well.