Chris_R Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Nah, Van Persie's only 30. I know he seems like he's been around forever though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 I feel sorry for Moyes. Over the last five years, Ferguson has massively over-achieved with a squad that is nothing like the best in the league. Their play now looks quite old-fashioned and pedestrian compared to the top four, and the players are feeling the pressure that always comes when a big club starts to slip. I doubt whether they're in a financial position to compete for the very top players. Unless FFP kicks in, this could last a while. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 I feel sorry for Moyes. Over the last five years, Ferguson has massively over-achieved with a squad that is nothing like the best in the league. Their play now looks quite old-fashioned and pedestrian compared to the top four, and the players are feeling the pressure that always comes when a big club starts to slip. I doubt whether they're in a financial position to compete for the very top players. Unless FFP kicks in, this could last a while. Don't really need the very best. They've rarely bought the finished article. A very good team with 2-3 world class players can challenge for all honours. Look at Arsenal - how many of theirs are world class? The most world class aspect is the manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 I feel sorry for Moyes. Over the last five years, Ferguson has massively over-achieved with a squad that is nothing like the best in the league. Their play now looks quite old-fashioned and pedestrian compared to the top four, and the players are feeling the pressure that always comes when a big club starts to slip. I doubt whether they're in a financial position to compete for the very top players. Unless FFP kicks in, this could last a while. Don't really need the very best. They've rarely bought the finished article. A very good team with 2-3 world class players can challenge for all honours. Look at Arsenal - how many of theirs are world class? The most world class aspect is the manager. I'd say Wenger, like Ferguson, is a massive over-achiever. So many players have the best days of their career under him, and he's able to bring young players through much more quickly than other managers. Their problem has been that, to an even greater extent than Man U, they've found it difficult to compete financially with Man City and Chelsea. When Wenger goes, Arsenal will face the same situation as Man U. The relative weakness of their squad will get exposed, unless they can up their game financially. I'd say Man U have only got one world class player in Rooney. He's been carrying them for a while, but that's not happening now. As for which players you'd define as 'very good', I'm a bit stuck after Van Persie and Mata. The rest seem to be either learning their trade, past their best or not that great in the first place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Agreed. Man for man quality wise this is the worst Arsenal squad he's had. Great defensively though and still have that Arsenal way of playing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 I feel sorry for Moyes. Over the last five years, Ferguson has massively over-achieved with a squad that is nothing like the best in the league. Their play now looks quite old-fashioned and pedestrian compared to the top four, and the players are feeling the pressure that always comes when a big club starts to slip. I doubt whether they're in a financial position to compete for the very top players. Unless FFP kicks in, this could last a while. What the fuck man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumpet Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Giggs, Welbeck and Nani are set to start according to the Times. Interesting to see Giggs starting considering all the rumours flying about him falling out with Moyes. A bit weird if Nani starts after 3 months out. but he'd still be more dangerous than Januzaj. Personally think Carrick has got a free ride this season with poor Cleverley being scapegoated at his expense. Carrick was by miles the worst player on the pitch on Sunday, and if it were to me, he wouldn't start tonight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Actually agree there, Carrick - who I've rated for many years - was downright awful on Sunday. Fellaini and Carrick in centre midfield was an utterly terrible combination to play against Liverpool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Any legs in this Coleman to Man Utd rumour? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Player having good season + ex-manager struggling at new club = Manager buys player Beyond that complex equation journos seem obsessed with, no. Not that I should be surprised with the standard of the guff they come out with, I was still amused by: "the 25-year-old, who has been a revelation for Everton and is destined for a big-money summer move." Shit, hope Roberto knows about that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Suppose Moyes gets sacked before the weekend, then. Who do they go for? Ferguson. Yep. Fucker's never actually left. He's just vacated the bench for a brief period of time and watched it unravel. He'd be more than willing to step back in for a year or so until they find a proper new manager rather than this pretendy one. Eh? So he voluntarily left a job to allow the situation to get worse, then would instantly take the job back in a much harder position later? Does that make any sense? I don't think he'll come back but to be fair I wouldn't say that makes no sense. He may have chosen to leave this season because he felt things were going to dip no matter what he did. But now they've dipped so low under Moyes that he could come back and improve on things in his sleep. Still doing worse than before, maybe the same reduced performance he was expecting this season had he stayed, but because its so much better than Moyes its not seen as a dip, its now a rise Like I said though I'm not expecting him back, certainly hope he stays away, waited long enough to get rid of the utter prick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattypnufc Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Any legs in this Coleman to Man Utd rumour? Chris? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Giggs, Welbeck and Nani are set to start according to the Times. Interesting to see Giggs starting considering all the rumours flying about him falling out with Moyes. A bit weird if Nani starts after 3 months out. but he'd still be more dangerous than Januzaj. Personally think Carrick has got a free ride this season with poor Cleverley being scapegoated at his expense. Carrick was by miles the worst player on the pitch on Sunday, and if it were to me, he wouldn't start tonight. Cleverley hasn't been scapegoat for Carrick. He's been fucking appalling in his own right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Giggs still being used Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Moyes might have had a bit of a shocker so far, but their squad is fairly average except a couple. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Need to bring back Scholes. Again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Any legs in this Coleman to Man Utd rumour? Wouldn't surprise me. Evra is a liability these days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Any legs in this Coleman to Man Utd rumour? Wouldn't surprise me. Evra is a liability these days. Coleman is a RB. Evra a LB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelphish Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Any legs in this Coleman to Man Utd rumour? Wouldn't surprise me. Evra is a liability these days. Doubt he'd swap sides. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelphish Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 2 seconds. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Need to bring back Scholes. Again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Any legs in this Coleman to Man Utd rumour? Chris? Gary Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Has Moyes tried a different formation yet this season? I mean all the wingers have been garbage pretty much. Why not do something similar to what Liverpool did over the weekend? Try out Mata behind Rooney and Van Persie for goodness sake. I mean at this point what do you have to lose? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Has Moyes tried a different formation yet this season? I mean all the wingers have been garbage pretty much. Why not do something similar to what Liverpool did over the weekend? Try out Mata behind Rooney and Van Persie for goodness sake. I mean at this point what do you have to lose? They seem to have the personnel for a 4-2-3-1 type thing for sure... maybe not the holding midfielders but they could surely do a job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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