The College Dropout Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Mind, it would be kinda sickly funny seeing Mercenary X, Y and Z f***ing off to China every transfer window. Suck it, Premier League. Mercenary? LOL. If someone's willing to double your wages for the same job - why wouldn't you do it? Especially once you've hit the pinnacle in your career. International football will be the biggest hurdle imo. Difficult for the likes of Payet to get selected if he's in China. "primarily concerned with making money at the expense of ethics" inaccurate? What's unethical about playing football in China that doesn't apply to any European or North American team? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Imagine being so arsed about earning more than £80grand a week that you'd fuck off top level football to play in that league. It's sheer and utter greed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Imagine being so arsed about earning more than £80grand a week that you'd f*** off top level football to play in that league. It's sheer and utter greed. It's all relative - people almost always want to make more money. It's human nature, it just seems wrong when you want a raise to buy a 3rd house and a yacht instead of wanting a raise to be able to send your kid to college. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Imagine being so arsed about earning more than £80grand a week that you'd f*** off top level football to play in that league. It's sheer and utter greed. It's all relative - people almost always want to make more money. It's human nature, it just seems wrong when you want a raise to buy a 3rd house and a yacht instead of wanting a raise to be able to send your kid to college. I'm pretty sure you can do all of that on £80k a week as well. FWIW, saw an interview with Ighalo the other week that he turned down £200k a week in China in the summer because he was happy to have fired Watford into the PL and wanted to stay. Signed a new contract worth £30k a week, seems to be able to survive on that somehow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Footballers have really short careers. I can't fault them for wanting to make the most of them, financially. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Mind, it would be kinda sickly funny seeing Mercenary X, Y and Z f***ing off to China every transfer window. Suck it, Premier League. Mercenary? LOL. If someone's willing to double your wages for the same job - why wouldn't you do it? Especially once you've hit the pinnacle in your career. International football will be the biggest hurdle imo. Difficult for the likes of Payet to get selected if he's in China. Never got this argument when comparing footballers, to the general working public. £40k to £80k a year, is huge. A really big amount in the grand scheme of things. £60k a week to £120k a week how rich do you need to be FFS? You're already going to end up a multi-millionaire. You can already buy most of the things that you want and need. You're already going to be considerably, considerably richer than....... most of the planet's population. So why jack in being a fans favourite, playing at the top level, to go and play in some joke of a league? I'd like to think if I was in their position. I'd be motivated by being successful and well paid. But also playing on a regular basis, for a club where you are loved. I don't get why such talented players, want to fuck off to the middle east or go and sit on the bench somewhere? Just so they can go from very rich, to super rich. I don't think, even in everyday life, that money is everything. A guy I used to work with, has fucked off to a big multi-national. He got a 50% pay rise, a better company car and a shit load of perks. Yet he absolutely hates it, doesn't get on that well with the people he works with and says it is far more pressured. Money isn't everything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Imagine being so arsed about earning more than £80grand a week that you'd f*** off top level football to play in that league. It's sheer and utter greed. It's all relative - people almost always want to make more money. It's human nature, it just seems wrong when you want a raise to buy a 3rd house and a yacht instead of wanting a raise to be able to send your kid to college. I'm pretty sure you can do all of that on £80k a week as well. Ok, then a fourth house and a second yacht - the items weren't the point. There are people in their circles who have more money and more things. First class is great until your buddy has a private jet or a helicopter, and then you wonder why that's not you. Plus they have a limited window to earn money. Given the vast sums of money circulating in the game and the ridiculous wealth of the owners, I don't for one second begrudge the players (the ones who make the sport worth watching) earning what they do or wanting to be paid more when they've earned it. I agree though, I wouldn't go to China and play in that anonymous league just for cash. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Imagine being so arsed about earning more than £80grand a week that you'd f*** off top level football to play in that league. It's sheer and utter greed. It's all relative - people almost always want to make more money. It's human nature, it just seems wrong when you want a raise to buy a 3rd house and a yacht instead of wanting a raise to be able to send your kid to college. Damn. Just seen this. You've nailed my TL;DR post, in one line http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/01/10/article-2260386-16DCA922000005DC-657_634x376.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 It's deals like Alex Teixeira that piss me off. He was actively linked with Liverpool, almost certainly coming to England in the summer. Yet he impatiently chose China. Maybe I'm just a purist but, if I had a choice between incredibly rich (in Premier League) vs super incredibly rich (in a Chinese retirement home), I'd pick the former. Does Teixeira not take pride in his career? Or think beyond 2 years? It's a pointless rant, I know. Money wins. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 That's after tax too so West Ham would need to pay him about £250k. He's good but not that good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 They are even going to second division clubs now Sky Sports News HQ @SkySportsNewsHQ 7m7 minutes ago Sky Sources: West Ham striker Nikica Jelavic close to agreeing deal to join Chinese second division side Beijing Ren He #SSNHQ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Footballers have really short careers. I can't fault them for wanting to make the most of them, financially. And if there's one thing we've learned from Goal!, they can be over before they've started! That said, we also learned from Goal! that when you've fired a club into the Champions League you want to leave that club so you can play in the Champions League. #logic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Jelavic is horrible tbf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 This West Ham move was probably the first of Payet's career where he was earning absolutely loads and at 29 I can see why he would want to take the big wages of China for a few years just to make himself more secure financially because the chances are he'll never earn another cent after retiring at 34 or 35 with about 50 years of his life to go Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 It's deals like Alex Teixeira that piss me off. He was actively linked with Liverpool, almost certainly coming to England in the summer. Yet he impatiently chose China. Maybe I'm just a purist but, if I had a choice between incredibly rich (in Premier League) vs super incredibly rich (in a Chinese retirement home), I'd pick the former. Does Teixeira not take pride in his career? Or think beyond 2 years? It's a pointless rant, I know. Money wins. Not sure how the situation is in Ukraine these days, but can't blame the lad for wanting out of what is/has been a war zone. Not that that probably has anything to do with his move like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 It's deals like Alex Teixeira that piss me off. He was actively linked with Liverpool, almost certainly coming to England in the summer. Yet he impatiently chose China. Maybe I'm just a purist but, if I had a choice between incredibly rich (in Premier League) vs super incredibly rich (in a Chinese retirement home), I'd pick the former. Does Teixeira not take pride in his career? Or think beyond 2 years? It's a pointless rant, I know. Money wins. It's difficult for the average fan to comprehend a player choosing cash over level of competition. Important to keep in mind that, for many professional footballers, it's just a job: we often put more stock into glory and accomplishments than they do. They've always been good at it and probably enjoyed playing it growing up, so why not take a crack at it professionally? Especially for players coming from less developed countries, playing for a big club in Europe or in the CL isn't the end all, be all of football. I don't begrudge any of these players choosing to follow the ridiculous cash thrown at them by Middle Eastern or Chinese clubs. Their careers will be short enough as it is and they want to maximize their earnings before retiring at quite a young age comparatively. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 I don't think it should be difficult for anyone to understand the appeal of doubling your salary TBF. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 I don't think it should be difficult for anyone to understand the appeal of doubling your salary TBF. Perhaps not, but I get it. If you're making $40K/year, there wouldn't seem to be much difference between a professional athlete making $40K/week and $80K/week. Because they "get to play a game" and make a lot of money for it. "Rich is rich," so players not content with that measly $2m/year are greedy for wanting more, particularly if they're already playing in a top competition (which often means more to fans than to players). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Payet wouldn't go from West Ham to China if they weren't offering him mental money, but he wouldn't go from Marseille to West Ham either if it wasn't for the fact his wage was being doubled. That's the fire you're playing with by signing mercenaries. Can't enjoy the advantages that globalisation as brought to the PL and then also whinge when that same globalisation plucks a player away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Looking forward to all these players integrating themselves with the Chinese culture and people. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Bailey Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 I don't think it should be difficult for anyone to understand the appeal of doubling your salary TBF. Agreed, the real issue for me is that they can earn this amount money in the first place. Obscene. Very few would turn down such a ludicrously proportionate rise if offered it I'm sure. What needs fixing (somehow) is that the salaries themselves are so disgustingly disproportionate and over inflated. Quite how this is achieved whilst football continues to spiral away, out of control and disengaged from all reality like it is, well that is beyond me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Payet wouldn't go from West Ham to China if they weren't offering him mental money, but he wouldn't go from Marseille to West Ham either if it wasn't for the fact his wage was being doubled. That's the fire you're playing with by signing mercenaries. Can't enjoy the advantages that globalisation as brought to the PL and then also whinge when that same globalisation plucks a player away. Bang on. An extra 80k over 4 years is over £16m, perhaps on top of the £19m he's in line for now. Take a player like Payet - he's probably earned £16m in his career to this point. I've said this before. But playing in the PL for West Ham or Liverpool means relatively little to someone from France and virtually nothing to someone from Brazil or Senegal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 I don't necessarily think it means nothing to play in the PL or to play for any particular club. It's just that such an insane increase in pay is enough to override anything else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 I see nothing wrong with player salaries either. If there's that much money in the game it should be the players that take the lionshare of it. The American system of wage caps only benefits already billionaire owners. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 I see nothing wrong with player salaries either. If there's that much money in the game it should be the players that take the lionshare of it. The American system of wage caps only benefits already billionaire owners. Aye, does nowt for equality in the league or owt like that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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