sbnufc Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Bet he wanted to back out of the deal when they told him he had to put this on http://i.imgur.com/1usgbEh.png Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 that'll best kit we'll have for a decade man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 I've been thinking who he's comparable to. Poor man's Mueller maybe, more dynamic version of Nolan, but I think the closest I can think of is actually Clint Dempsey in his Fulham days. Not great technically or a creative force, but a player with great determination, useful technique, good movement and finishing. If he has put his injuries behind him we've got ourselves a nice little player at a good age here. How would you compare him with Gouffran? There's another player who doesn't quite seem to be an out and out striker and ends up playing on the wing. Well, it's hard to compare since they play in slightly different positions. I see Goufran more as a centre forward who can play out wide, whereas De Jong is more of an attacking midfield player who can play centre forward. De Jong is also more consistent I think, with slightly better pace and technique. I just worry for De Jong on that score when I read Pardew quotes that he's overjoyed to get a striker through the door. Gouffran isn't a wide player at all, and after a year and a half I still don't know if he's a striker. I hope Pards realises that De Jong will need to play off a proper centre forward, which we still haven't signed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 What I meant by that is that he's experienced enough to be of use straight away yet his best years should be in front of him. I know he was Ajax's captain but was he much of a leader on the pitch as well? Just I think that is something that we 've been missing for a while. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 I've been thinking who he's comparable to. Poor man's Mueller maybe, more dynamic version of Nolan, but I think the closest I can think of is actually Clint Dempsey in his Fulham days. Not great technically or a creative force, but a player with great determination, useful technique, good movement and finishing. If he has put his injuries behind him we've got ourselves a nice little player at a good age here. How would you compare him with Gouffran? There's another player who doesn't quite seem to be an out and out striker and ends up playing on the wing. Well, it's hard to compare since they play in slightly different positions. I see Goufran more as a centre forward who can play out wide, whereas De Jong is more of an attacking midfield player who can play centre forward. De Jong is also more consistent I think, with slightly better pace and technique. I just worry for De Jong on that score when I read Pardew quotes that he's overjoyed to get a striker through the door. Gouffran isn't a wide player at all, and after a year and a half I still don't know if he's a striker. I hope Pards realises that De Jong will need to play off a proper centre forward, which we still haven't signed. Most Ajax fans seem to think Siem de Jong's best position was actually as a false number 9 due to good movement, finishing and being able to hold the ball up. Obviously that would not work with our long ball "strategy". Will certainly be interesting to see how Pardew (sigh) plans to use him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 What I meant by that is that he's experienced enough to be of use straight away yet his best years should be in front of him. I know he was Ajax's captain but was he much of a leader on the pitch as well? Just I think that is something that we 've been missing for a while. He was, although not in a shout out loud, rile 'm up kind of way. He seems an intelligent young man who commands respect from other players. Obviously being new to the club I wouldn't expect him to come in and start behaving like a leader off the bat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Bet he wanted to back out of the deal when they told him he had to put this on http://i.imgur.com/1usgbEh.png It looks like it's just been picked up off the floor of a Sports Direct store and handed to him to put on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 "I'm really pleased we have managed to get a striker early. And particularly a striker of Siem's type; because you know, we need to bed him in a little bit about how we are going to play and find out the best route for him and for us. That's him in early for heading practice then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 'Best route'. IE Route one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 "I'm really pleased we have managed to get a striker early. And particularly a striker of Siem's type; because you know, we need to bed him in a little bit about how we are going to play and find out the best route for him and for us. I can feel my depression setting in again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 "I'm really pleased we have managed to get a striker early. And particularly a striker of Siem's type; because you know, we need to bed him in a little bit about how we are going to play and find out the best route for him and for us. That's him in early for heading practice then Sign a promising CAM. Immediately pass him off as the striker signing. Ugh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnes23 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 The fact that he's only excited about the next 'couple of years' rather than the full duration of his contract says quite a lot imo. Yeah, quite revealing about how we are sold to prospective players and the nature of our "project" imo. Depressing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Just noticed Ricky van Wolfswinkel is with the same agent as De Jong. We've been interested in him before, haven't we? What are the odds we will try to get him in on the cheap from relegated Norwich after a disappointing season? His value must have dropped significantly, which must look appealing to our spreadsheet brigade. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Just noticed Ricky van Wolfswinkel is with the same agent as De Jong. We've been interested in him before, haven't we? What are the odds we will try to get him in on the cheap from relegated Norwich after a disappointing season? His value must have dropped significantly, which must look appealing to our spreadsheet brigade. Hopefully the odds are extremely low. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 I've been thinking who he's comparable to. Poor man's Mueller maybe, more dynamic version of Nolan, but I think the closest I can think of is actually Clint Dempsey in his Fulham days. Not great technically or a creative force, but a player with great determination, useful technique, good movement and finishing. If he has put his injuries behind him we've got ourselves a nice little player at a good age here. How would you compare him with Gouffran? There's another player who doesn't quite seem to be an out and out striker and ends up playing on the wing. Well, it's hard to compare since they play in slightly different positions. I see Goufran more as a centre forward who can play out wide, whereas De Jong is more of an attacking midfield player who can play centre forward. De Jong is also more consistent I think, with slightly better pace and technique. I just worry for De Jong on that score when I read Pardew quotes that he's overjoyed to get a striker through the door. Gouffran isn't a wide player at all, and after a year and a half I still don't know if he's a striker. I hope Pards realises that De Jong will need to play off a proper centre forward, which we still haven't signed. Most Ajax fans seem to think Siem de Jong's best position was actually as a false number 9 due to good movement, finishing and being able to hold the ball up. Obviously that would not work with our long ball "strategy". Will certainly be interesting to see how Pardew (sigh) plans to use him. I'm wondering if there's anything in the Shelvey rumour now, this guy isn't the playmaking Cabaye replacement but seems like he'll fit with a midfielder who can pass a bit and see the space. If not Shelvey then someone like him. Don't think De Jong is going to work with our current midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 "I'm really pleased we have managed to get a striker early. And particularly a striker of Siem's type; because you know, we need to bed him in a little bit about how we are going to play and find out the best route for him and for us. That's him in early for heading practice then Pisses me right off, this. Any other team would chuck him in and let him do his stuff from the off - in trying to be sensible and give him time, it's actually making it less likely that he'll succeed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 It's not even as though we play a complex brand of football that takes genuine time and practise to get used to. Our football is about as basic as it comes, de Jong could probably teach Pardew more from what he learnt at Ajax than the other way round ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 It's also the fucking summer - it's not like we signed him on last day of summer window or winter window ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 I've been thinking who he's comparable to. Poor man's Mueller maybe, more dynamic version of Nolan, but I think the closest I can think of is actually Clint Dempsey in his Fulham days. Not great technically or a creative force, but a player with great determination, useful technique, good movement and finishing. If he has put his injuries behind him we've got ourselves a nice little player at a good age here. Michu maybe? When he was good obviously, from the half a dozen times i watched De Jong he seemed a technically superior version of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 I've been thinking who he's comparable to. Poor man's Mueller maybe, more dynamic version of Nolan, but I think the closest I can think of is actually Clint Dempsey in his Fulham days. Not great technically or a creative force, but a player with great determination, useful technique, good movement and finishing. If he has put his injuries behind him we've got ourselves a nice little player at a good age here. Michu maybe? When he was good obviously, from the half a dozen times i watched him he seemed a technically superior version of him. Another decent shout, although I would probably die if De Jong had an impact like Michu's first season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 "I'm really pleased we have managed to get a striker early. And particularly a striker of Siem's type; because you know, we need to bed him in a little bit about how we are going to play and find out the best route for him and for us. That's him in early for heading practice then Pisses me right off, this. Any other team would chuck him in and let him do his stuff from the off - in trying to be sensible and give him time, it's actually making it less likely that he'll succeed Im reading it as him saying hes glad hes got him in early because he has time to settle in, not that he wont be in the side when the season starts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Ajax training sessions compared to Pardews Good player mind. Only bought so the club can earn money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Odd stats for a midfielder, to say the least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Hardly any throughballs, assists or "key" passes. Terrible pass completion rate too. Great stats for an AM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 How the fuck do they measure "successful dribbles"? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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