thomas Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Has Klopp ever publicly shat on a player - even one not his own - like that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GavMcEl Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Most important part of this entire transfer is who will replace him in the Rafa Benitez song? Aha was one of the first things that entered my head to lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 I've said for a long time that I don't care what fees we receive if we're selling our best players (though now Rafa is in charge of spending that opinion is probably going to change) but this feels like a good deal for us. They're undoubtedly getting a talented player but he had no heart for the fight whatsoever, and never even looked as committed to the club as Sissoko - a bloke who gets slaughtered by our fans. He'll probably do well there and I'm confident we'll benefit from the money. This is the kicker. Was I really annoyed when Cabaye went for comparative peanuts? Didn't care. Am I delighted we've got £25m for a gutless, invisible player that wants nothing more to do with the club, with Benitez in charge of transfers? Absolutely It's almost like supporting a normal club again. Is £25m a record for a player in the Championship? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Wasnt it actually 32. 5 with us getting 25 now, pav getting 5 and another 2.5 addons Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 I've said for a long time that I don't care what fees we receive if we're selling our best players (though now Rafa is in charge of spending that opinion is probably going to change) but this feels like a good deal for us. They're undoubtedly getting a talented player but he had no heart for the fight whatsoever, and never even looked as committed to the club as Sissoko - a bloke who gets slaughtered by our fans. He'll probably do well there and I'm confident we'll benefit from the money. This is the kicker. Was I really annoyed when Cabaye went for comparative peanuts? Didn't care. Am I delighted we've got £25m for a gutless, invisible player that wants nothing more to do with the club, with Benitez in charge of transfers? Absolutely It's almost like supporting a normal club again. Is £25m a record for a player in the Championship? Not next week, no. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Fuck him and the shithouse club he's going to. Bye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 On the NUFC arsehole scale he'll fall in a couple of notches under Michael Owen. His marra Sissoko might even knock the horse-scuttler of his perch when he pegs it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karjala Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 £25m for that? unbelievable! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Ryan Babel mk2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zaius Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 On the NUFC arsehole scale he'll fall in a couple of notches under Michael Owen. His marra Sissoko might even knock the horse-scuttler of his perch when he pegs it. Not quite like. I have next level hatred for Owen like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sho Time Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 On the NUFC arsehole scale he'll fall in a couple of notches under Michael Owen. His marra Sissoko might even knock the horse-scuttler of his perch when he pegs it. Not a chance. Owen is the lowest of the low, along with Duff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Pardew? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Specialist manager arsehole scale. Loads of them clinging to the top. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy84 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 f*** him and the shithouse club he's going to. Bye. Aye. Less and less arsed about this. Symbol of a failed side who couldn't wait to leave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 On the NUFC arsehole scale he'll fall in a couple of notches under Michael Owen. His marra Sissoko might even knock the horse-scuttler of his perch when he pegs it. Michael Owen cost us £17m and never really turned up before leaving on freedom of contract after barely making himself available during his time here. Just some perspective. But yeah, £60m for cunts you don't rate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ndegwa Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Was probably in the minority that wanted him to stay. I feel he could have been great for us under Rafa, especially if we got promoted this season. Still, £25m. Good business. Onwards and upwards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Dont spend any more cash and imagine the interest if we put in in a ISA or good bank account! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Was probably in the minority that wanted him to stay. I feel he could have been great for us under Rafa, especially if we got promoted this season. Still, £25m. Good business. Onwards and upwards. I know what you mean. I'm largely pleased he's moving on, I mean what's the point in trying to keep a player who doesn't want to play for your club, regardless of ability? He probably only performed in about 8 games all year And the fee is more than we could have expected really. That said, he showed in flashes what he could do, in those games he looked so quick and smooth, great at arriving in the box at just the right moment with an eye for goal that few of our other players have. I can only imagine he'll have some eye catching displays for Liverpool next season (probably all at Anfield while the sun shines) and it will piss me off a bit. Yeah he's gutless and it's particularly galling given he really does have ability in there. You wonder what he might have been able to produce with more heart and consistency and also time under this coaching staff. Ultimately he wasn't prepared to bother, so fuck him. Invest the fee properly and we move on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Was probably in the minority that wanted him to stay. I feel he could have been great for us under Rafa, especially if we got promoted this season. Still, £25m. Good business. Onwards and upwards. See I don't get this, why do you think he'd improve so much under Rafa this season? Everyone basically looked like shit before Rafa came in, but within a few games he had most of them looking like new players. But Wijnaldum was one of the few still looking no better, one of those who ended up really costing us when we failed to win against Villa. Wondering around the pitch like he didn't have a fucking care in the world. Did really well in the last game when it didn't matter to us one jot though, when he was playing against a team who might be interested in signing him, only thing that motivates him is him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Was probably in the minority that wanted him to stay. I feel he could have been great for us under Rafa, especially if we got promoted this season. Still, £25m. Good business. Onwards and upwards. See I don't get this, why do you think he'd improve so much under Rafa this season. Everyone basically looked like s*** before Rafa came in, but within a few games he had most of them looking like new players. But Wijnaldum was one of the few still looking no better, one of those who ended up really costing us when we failed to win against Villa. Wondering around the pitch like he didn't have a f***ing care in the world. Personally think he had already decided to leave by then. If he wanted to commit and grow under Rafa, there was a player worth keeping. He wasn't, whether the club had sickened him early on and Rafa coming made no difference, I don't know. I think he would have improved under Rafa if he was prepared to put the work in and he just wasn't. Talented but a gutless waster, think Liverpool might regret buying him eventually. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 One of those rare deals in football where you feel like all parties have done well. There's clearly a very good player in Wijnaldum and I think Klopp can get the best out of him. We've done well to get as much from him as we did, probably much because of Rafa's "we don't need to sell anyone" attitude. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 The main thing now is that the money from Gini and probably, Sissoko, is spent wisely, whether it be now or later - we need a decent striker as well as a creative midfielder because I have doubts as to whether Shelvey will do the business regularly. We don't look strong on our right side either with Janmaat likely to be another departure and even if he stayed, his displays last season were poor at the back. You have to remember that KK had the benefit of 3 or 4 young players from our youth development when he took over - Watson, Clarke, Howey and Elliott, all of whom played a major part in promotion and establishing us in the PL afterwards...Rafa has Lascelles(NOT a product of our own development)and maybe Mbabu and Armstrong, both not proven at this level so Rafa will have to buy players and the Championship is, in my opinion, certain to be a tougher proposition this time than it was either in 2009 or 1992/3...just look at some of the clubs already there, let alone the other 2 relegated sides... The 'ballwinner' article on the Championship Planning thread sums it up for me ; NUFC are EXPECTED to lead the chase for the PL and if they don't there will be a lot of pressure on everyone at the club so as the article says , it will be tough to settle in all the new players quickly. Nevertheless, I will be surprised if Rafa doesn't have the club in a promotion position by March..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 I am very much in the camp that putting him or Sissoko in a side where they aren't surrounded by dross and expected to be the sole creative outlets will end up being beneficial to the purchasing team. It's all too tempting to just say "he's a bottler"; he's just not the kind of player who turns a game round single handedly. He's very useful in a fluid passing/counter-attacking system. I think he'll be decent for Liverpool and it will piss me off a lot. With that said, there's a slight part of me that thinks he's a 7-a-side player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattypnufc Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 As mental as this sounds, someone told me that he'd already agree terms with Liverpool in January but had to wait until the summer. As with everything I take that sort of thing with a pinch of salt but it seems awfully coincidental he's off to them. It would explain him going missing since January anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 I haven't been bothered about a player leaving since Carroll. When a young local lad jumps ship, that's the nail in the coffin as far as loyalty is concerned. It's ironic because it turned out to be the best sale we ever made. When you compare Wijnaldum's situation to that of Ben Arfa, a much more talented player and a one who actually had an affinity for the fans, it's amazing that we let him go for nowt. Couldnt give a fuck about Wijnaldum. Let's find a young gem, who wants to be here and wants to work hard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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