Kasper Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Optimistic I know but I don't see Ashley surviving Rafa leaving now. It would be such a monumental fuck up on his part that even the "support the team" people would boil over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Stating the obvious, but until Ashley's gone there'll never be a true end to anything and we're just winning and losing smaller battles. The whole point of ousting Pardew and McLaren was so that we could get someone like Rafa. Now if he's being dicked about and leaves, the only positive is more people onside for match walk outs and boycotts to try and oust Ashley. My fear - beyond Rafa leaving obviously - is that Ashley brings someone else in and the fans just get on with 'supporting the team not the regime' We are just in limbo until Ashley leaves, he has no interest in football other than swaging pints and making daft bets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ElCid Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Stating the obvious, but until Ashley's gone there'll never be a true end to anything and we're just winning and losing smaller battles. The whole point of ousting Pardew and McLaren was so that we could get someone like Rafa. Now if he's being dicked about and leaves, the only positive is more people onside for match walk outs and boycotts to try and oust Ashley. My fear - beyond Rafa leaving obviously - is that Ashley brings someone else in and the fans just get on with 'supporting the team not the regime' Nothing will change until the fat c*** has gone and that makes no difference to who the manager is. The same scenario will play out, struggle for year or two if lucky, then get relegated; and then promoted and on and on. One of these times though we won't get promoted. The whole Ashley era is nearly as bad as the McKeag years and at least he had an excuse as he had no serious money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinport53 Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Those comments put huge pressure on Ashley to deliver, nobody has done that to him before and it'll be interesting to see how he responds. Pardew regularly held him to account IIRC. Short memory Ness? He regularly dedicated wins to Mike as a thank you for players being purchased. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Meh i stopped caring before Benitez, then he hasn't been here long enough for me to regain any passion i once had pre-Pardew so i struggle to care right now. Just apathy all over again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ElCid Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Meh i stopped caring before Benitez, then he hasn't been here long enough for me to regain any passion i once had pre-Pardew so i struggle to care right now. Just apathy all over again. Same with me gone from going every week to not at all due to the way one man runs this club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 If Rafa leaves it would be amazing if the stadium was all empty during our first game of the season. Would fucking love it in a way. Not that it's gonna happen, but I certainly do think a lot of people would stop going, at least fucking hope so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Meh i stopped caring before Benitez, then he hasn't been here long enough for me to regain any passion i once had pre-Pardew so i struggle to care right now. Just apathy all over again. Same with me gone from going every week to not at all due to the way one man runs this club. Same here. Although I did enjoy last season (for the most part) and was looking forward to this season. More fool me for thinking it was going to be any different. I'm glad rafa's came out and said this if I'm honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 I dont think that his comments are anything to worry about. I would be more concerned if he said nothing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 “You need to adjust the team. “Then hopefully we can bring some players and add to what we are looking for.” This is important, a big reason we havent made the signings we want yet is that we havent been able to get rid of the deadwood as of yet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Oh this is not good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 I dont think that his comments are anything to worry about. I would be more concerned if he said nothing. Fuck off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 I dont think that his comments are anything to worry about. I would be more concerned if he said nothing. Fuck off. I would be massively worried either way, maybe that's what he means Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 This club is fucking aids. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie1892 Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 thread title says it all Hopefully Mike can keep his word... massive message in there to say stop d1cking me about and get something done Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gleebals Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Nothing in what he said IMO - he is just stating what he was told. Albeit, putting the attention right back on Ashley. Good work Rafa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Its sad how some people see Mike Ashley as Newcastle United. Its ours, not his. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Doesn't make good reading at all, but well done to Rafa for actually calling them out on it. Fingers crossed this pushes Ashley/Charnley to pull their fingers out their arses, but I'm not hopeful. I'm hoping Rafa is committed to the fans more than anything and hangs on until we're hopefully sold. No one will buy us for the price the fat fuck wants and Benitez will be long gone come august Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Mike 'my word is my bond' Ashley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Its sad how some people see Mike Ashley as Newcastle United. Its ours, not his. Who does that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 It's clear they've been feeding Benny stories. No way did they ever intend to spend the money to get the team right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Either it all goes ok, Benitez is happy and I can enjoy the season. Or that cunt pisses about, Benitez leaves and I forget about Newcastle United. Either way at least I have some closure, not like waiting for Pardew to be sacked with the thin hope a good manager may be able to push us forward despite Ashley. If it goes wrong here its been made 100% clear that its utterly pointless to support them under Ashley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Either it all goes ok, Benitez is happy and I can enjoy the season. Or that cunt pisses about, Benitez leaves and I forget about Newcastle United. Either way at least I have some closure, not like waiting for Pardew to be sacked with the thin hope a good manager may be able to push us forward despite Ashley. If it goes wrong here its been made 100% clear that its utterly pointless to support them under Ashley. Pretty much my view as well, that's why I didn't buy a season ticket and I haven't bought a shirt yet. Was always going to be after the summer when the future really became clear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Doesn't make good reading at all, but well done to Rafa for actually calling them out on it. Fingers crossed this pushes Ashley/Charnley to pull their fingers out their arses, but I'm not hopeful. I'm hoping Rafa is committed to the fans more than anything and hangs on until we're hopefully sold. No one will buy us for the price the fat fuck wants and Benitez will be long gone come august Wow!! Gone well before August on the strength of that statement. Next week must be it then. Poor old Rafa really is going to have to be careful when he speaks to the press Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 “You need to adjust the team. “Then hopefully we can bring some players and add to what we are looking for.” This is important, a big reason we havent made the signings we want yet is that we havent been able to get rid of the deadwood as of yet Why do we need to get rid of deadwood first? If the money's there we should spend it. Then if someone wants to buy our deadwood we can shift them as and when. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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