Beren Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Honestly, at what point will Norwich realise that signing so many Scottish footballers isn't really working for them They love it mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 If we get £20m+ for our players, the prices for players we are interested in will increase hugely. Should try and get the players in before we sell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 It's petty but fuck selling to Liverpool. In a few years we aim to be competing with clubs of that ilk, so I don't really want to be selling them our better players (which he is, whatever you think of him) unless it's for an inflated fee which obviously gets us a more suitable player/more suitable players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Rafa's quotes about needing a CB could potentially be the first test of the club since he took over, by that I mean actually being prepared to go out and get the player the manager wants. In the past charnley just messed about for months and ended up with no one. Rafa won't take that so it will be interesting to see how this develops. I'm not sure if that's something Rafa would do. I think he's actually confident of getting a CB in by the middle of the week. He's now able to say that CB is a position we need to strengthen instead of saying we need to strengthen as we've brought in numorous players. If he was in happy I think hat if he was going to show this he would be more loose on the timescale and would be saying things like 'soon, and ASAP' rather than 'by middle of this week'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleBingo Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 It's petty but f*** selling to Liverpool. In a few years we aim to be competing with clubs of that ilk, so I don't really want to be selling them our better players (which he is, whatever you think of him) unless it's for an inflated fee which obviously gets us a more suitable player/more suitable players. It's deluded nonsense like this that gives us a bad name. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Rafa's quotes about needing a CB could potentially be the first test of the club since he took over, by that I mean actually being prepared to go out and get the player the manager wants. In the past charnley just messed about for months and ended up with no one. Rafa won't take that so it will be interesting to see how this develops. Don't. Just please DON'T! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odear Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 We do need to get one CB in, but it's only urgent if anything happens to Mbemba or Jamaal, we have this season to really see what the kid is made of, i'm suspecting it's stern stuff. Anyone being brought in will just be for cover so i don't see why we need to be paying mad money on average players, unless he doesn't fully trust Mbemba. Also his comments may just be to keep the current players on their toes. We will be bringing someone in but would be surprised if it's someone who will play regularly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mofo Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 We do need to get one CB in, but it's only urgent if anything happens to Mbemba or Jamaal, we have this season to really see what the kid is made of, i'm suspecting it's stern stuff. Anyone being brought in will just be for cover so i don't see why we need to be paying mad money on average players, unless he doesn't fully trust Mbemba. Also his comments may just be to keep the current players on their toes. We will be bringing someone in but would be surprised if it's someone who will play regularly. But that is why it's so urgent.. Desperate for another CB in my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 We do need to get one CB in, but it's only urgent if anything happens to Mbemba or Jamaal, we have this season to really see what the kid is made of, i'm suspecting it's stern stuff. Anyone being brought in will just be for cover so i don't see why we need to be paying mad money on average players, unless he doesn't fully trust Mbemba. Also his comments may just be to keep the current players on their toes. We will be bringing someone in but would be surprised if it's someone who will play regularly. How is it just cover? We only have two specialist centre backs. Which team would willingly go into a 46 game season (excluding cup games) with only two centre backs? We need cover for squad rotation, injuries, loss of form, competition, fatigue prevention, African cup of nations cover for Mbemba and so we don't end up playing people out of position. It is absolutely essential that we get at least one more centre back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubestationatmidnight Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Odin has had a nightmare there. It's vital! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Course we need another centre half - 2 really, unless he's planning to play Dummett there or can extreme confidence in promoting someone else from within like Mbabu. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ads Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Can't see the logic in what Odin is saying at all to be honest. Injuries, suspensions, loss of form and the likelihood that we'll be playing almost 50 games this season - it's absolutely ESSENTIAL we get another CB in, and even then it's leaving us light. We were light enough last season and have since seen Coloccini and Taylor depart. Anyone suggesting we don't need CB cover needs their head checking like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Seems like he's just saying we should bring in a backup center back rather than someone meant to as a starter ahead of Lacelles and Mbemba. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odear Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Can't see the logic in what Odin is saying at all to be honest. Injuries, suspensions, loss of form and the likelihood that we'll be playing almost 50 games this season - it's absolutely ESSENTIAL we get another CB in, and even then it's leaving us light. We were light enough last season and have since seen Coloccini and Taylor depart. Anyone suggesting we don't need CB cover needs their head checking like. I'm not saying we don't need cover, that's exactly what we need but we don't need to be signing someone who will be expecting to play every game. Like the sweaty from Blackburn. And we don't just have 2, Dummett can play there, in fact it's probably his better position. So we need 1 more in to do us. Also, what about the lads in the reserves/u21's? They have to play at some point too and i'd rather they cut their teeth this season when the pressure will be off slightly. But yes, 1 CB in will do i think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stal Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Really not a fan of this "can play there" mentality. Yes, in a pinch or during a match when a substitution is forced upon us. But we should have competent specialist centre backs. Two other points: 1) Dummet will likely play left back this season so why shift folk around rather than have someone specialist to come in? (except in the case of bare bones emergencies) 2) The rotation thing. We have a LOT of games coming up so having players who can slip straight into their preferred position without having to adjust would be far more useful. Rafa rotates and we have a lot of games. It's not likely to be so that the newcomer suddenly gets ahead of our current two in the pecking order. Im going to add in a bonus point, wouldn't it be good to have a more experienced centre back for our current young pairing to learn from? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Really not a fan of this "can play there" mentality. Yes, in a pinch or during a match when a substitution is forced upon us. But we should have competent specialist centre backs. Two other points: 1) Dummet will likely play left back this season so why shift folk around rather than have someone specialist to come in? (except in the case of bare bones emergencies) 2) The rotation thing. We have a LOT of games coming up so having players who can slip straight into their preferred position without having to adjust would be far more useful. Rafa rotates and we have a lot of games. It's not likely to be so that the newcomer suddenly gets ahead of our current two in the pecking order. Im going to add in a bonus point, wouldn't it be good to have a more experienced centre back for our current young pairing to learn from? Yes it would be good to get an experienced centre back in, but not at the expense of the two we have that will hopefully, with experience, be the two to take us up and beyond. And I really dont think Dummett moving to centre back is anything other than progression in his case; we still have Mbabu and Haidarra waiting in the wings as (potentially better) left back specialists. We need a new Frank Dumas to steady the ship when we're a bit buggered, not someone that will be first choice from the off. /not quite like Frank Dumas obvs, maybe a Killer Killcline[sic]... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 It's especially difficult to sign the right level of CB if we expect them to contribute if we get promoted. I get the argument about just having as many good players as possible though, hopefully Rafa can manage them all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Really not a fan of this "can play there" mentality. Yes, in a pinch or during a match when a substitution is forced upon us. But we should have competent specialist centre backs. Two other points: 1) Dummet will likely play left back this season so why shift folk around rather than have someone specialist to come in? (except in the case of bare bones emergencies) 2) The rotation thing. We have a LOT of games coming up so having players who can slip straight into their preferred position without having to adjust would be far more useful. Rafa rotates and we have a lot of games. It's not likely to be so that the newcomer suddenly gets ahead of our current two in the pecking order. Im going to add in a bonus point, wouldn't it be good to have a more experienced centre back for our current young pairing to learn from? Aye, it depends what our plan for Dummet is, if he's ideally part of the first XI then we cannot really go into a season with the idea of him playing CB or LB when needed. Same with Anita, it's nice to have a player who can fill in multiple places but you want them to be making 15-20 appearances a season, not 46 across several positions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 One CB will be enough imo, everyone is looking at the worst possible outcome but the reality is most teams don't have 4 recognised CBs. I know we usually have shit tonnes of injuries but that isn't normal, most clubs don't have both their first choice defenders out for long term periods at a time. Mbemba, Lascelles, new CB, Dummett (who is more of a CB than a fullback anyway) and who ever else is versatile enough to do a job if necessary is more than enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 One CB will be enough imo, everyone is looking at the worst possible outcome but the reality is most teams don't have 4 recognised CBs. I know we usually have s*** tonnes of injuries but that isn't normal, most clubs don't have both their first choice defenders out for long term periods at a time. Mbemba, Lascelles, new CB, Dummett (who is more of a CB than a fullback anyway) and who ever else is versatile enough to do a job if necessary is more than enough. Hayden can play at centre back as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 One CB will be enough imo, everyone is looking at the worst possible outcome but the reality is most teams don't have 4 recognised CBs. I know we usually have shit tonnes of injuries but that isn't normal, most clubs don't have both their first choice defenders out for long term periods at a time. Mbemba, Lascelles, new CB, Dummett (who is more of a CB than a fullback anyway) and who ever else is versatile enough to do a job if necessary is more than enough. But we do though and surely that's the important point. Every season we've had issues with our lack of squad depth. If Dummett has to move into the centre then our backup LB has to slot in on the left (if Dummett is first choice), then if he's fucked we have to move someone else there (maybe Aarons like last season, fuck knows). Then another goes. We then end up with a makeshift back line and have to stiffen up to accommodate it and stop us from shipping 4 goals a game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Obviously it's the Championship like so maybe we're overthinking it, but with our luck I'd never be afraid of being too cautious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Are Championship sides still able to loan outside the transfer window? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 One CB will be enough imo, everyone is looking at the worst possible outcome but the reality is most teams don't have 4 recognised CBs. I know we usually have s*** tonnes of injuries but that isn't normal, most clubs don't have both their first choice defenders out for long term periods at a time. Mbemba, Lascelles, new CB, Dummett (who is more of a CB than a fullback anyway) and who ever else is versatile enough to do a job if necessary is more than enough. But we do though and surely that's the important point. Every season we've had issues with our lack of squad depth. If Dummett has to move into the centre then our backup LB has to slot in on the left (if Dummett is first choice), then if he's f***ed we have to move someone else there (maybe Aarons like last season, f*** knows). Then another goes. We then end up with a makeshift back line and have to stiffen up to accommodate it and stop us from shipping 4 goals a game. Yeah but I'm advocating that we buy another LB for that very reason and we probably need one anyway. I agree with what you're saying, just that we shouldn't have to sign a ridiculous amount of players just because our backroom staff as it attains to fitness are incompetent. Hopefully Rafa is doing his best to sort out those issues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ads Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Are Championship sides still able to loan outside the transfer window? What's Fitz Hall up to these days? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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