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The Asoro rumour: I met Carr at Sweden-Netherlands on Tuesday (my article and quotes). Did not get the impression we're after him, just that he and Arsenal's Bobby Bennett were both really impressed with him when they watched Sweden-Spain U21 the day before.

 

Spoke to Carr for quite a while. Very open and honest, somewhat feels he's been harshly criticized. He was clear on the fact that Rafa runs the whole show now, said all of the signings this summer was Rafa's. Referred a lot back to Tioté, Cabaye, Debuchy and Ben Arfa and said that in Ben Arfa's case, it was all Pardew. "He only played him at times because he was a fan favourite. Just look at him now" was his conclusion.

 

He also said Saivet was meant to be Tioté's replacement in January as the club was certain he was going, and badly misused as a consequence of that.

 

All in all, I'd not expect him to be part of the club's setup for much longer. He said some things that made me quite certain he's not in any significant power, and from the sound of it, Benitez has a very different idea of who to sign.

 

 

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The Asoro rumour: I met Carr at Sweden-Netherlands on Tuesday (my article and quotes). Did not get the impression we're after him, just that he and Arsenal's Bobby Bennett were both really impressed with him when they watched Sweden-Spain U21 the day before.

 

Spoke to Carr for quite a while. Very open and honest, somewhat feels he's been harshly criticized. He was clear on the fact that Rafa runs the whole show now, said all of the signings this summer was Rafa's. Referred a lot back to Tioté, Cabaye, Debuchy and Ben Arfa and said that in Ben Arfa's case, it was all Pardew. "He only played him at times because he was a fan favourite. Just look at him now" was his conclusion.

 

He also said Saivet was meant to be Tioté's replacement in January as the club was certain he was going, and badly misused as a consequence of that.

 

All in all, I'd not expect him to be part of the club's setup for much longer. He said some things that made me quite certain he's not in any significant power, and from the sound of it, Benitez has a very different idea of who to sign.

 

Sounds interesting.

 

Also sounds like Pardew has done the same with Jedinak, a fan favourite, held in higher esteem than Pardew.  Binned off.

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The Asoro rumour: I met Carr at Sweden-Netherlands on Tuesday (my article and quotes). Did not get the impression we're after him, just that he and Arsenal's Bobby Bennett were both really impressed with him when they watched Sweden-Spain U21 the day before.

 

Spoke to Carr for quite a while. Very open and honest, somewhat feels he's been harshly criticized. He was clear on the fact that Rafa runs the whole show now, said all of the signings this summer was Rafa's. Referred a lot back to Tioté, Cabaye, Debuchy and Ben Arfa and said that in Ben Arfa's case, it was all Pardew. "He only played him at times because he was a fan favourite. Just look at him now" was his conclusion.

 

He also said Saivet was meant to be Tioté's replacement in January as the club was certain he was going, and badly misused as a consequence of that.

 

All in all, I'd not expect him to be part of the club's setup for much longer. He said some things that made me quite certain he's not in any significant power, and from the sound of it, Benitez has a very different idea of who to sign.

 

Very enlightening. Feel a bit for Carr, he did bring some real talent here, I just think he looked at pure ability without taking into consideration the demands and pace of the premier league.

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Carr had one source for targets; I'm sure someone posted on here the other day that about 8/9 of our signings were represented by the same agency, which seems eminently plausible. His connections would've been more of an asset if they didn't represent our entire scouting network.

 

What Carr's role was in the club's wider rhetoric, perpetuated by the likes of Pardew etc, remains largely unknown. The fact that he recently had an interview with Radio Newcastle and talked only about cricket and Northampton Town left me a bit suspicious.

 

I won't be sorry to see the back of him if he does go because, if nothing else, he's a big part of the era we've (hopefully) just come out of.

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All in all, I'd not expect him to be part of the club's setup for much longer. He said some things that made me quite certain he's not in any significant power, and from the sound of it, Benitez has a very different idea of who to sign.

 

Not so sure on that.  He's getting on a bit now and obviously still loves the game.  I could see him just doing his simple scouting until he retires.

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Think Carr was lauded as a footballing guru when it suited the club and thrown under the bus when that suited them too.

 

He's bent as anything, but nearly every football agent and scout are. A bunch of rich folk doing favours for one another for the right price.

 

Unbelievably harsh man.

 

I truly believe so many more of the players he brought in would have done far better if we ever bothered to have a decent manager at the club at the time.

 

 

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Kaka and Carr, ffs. It's embarrassing. Not one Carr-scouted player has done owt in football besides contribute to our relegation - and I obviously don't include international players we'd all heard of in that. Not to mention his role in appointing Steve McClaren when we had 6 months to get pretty much any unemployed or contractually vulnerable manager we wanted. Move on, man.

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Carr's job might have said chief scout but in reality he was more of an agent than anything else. His remit was to find young players with sell on value and, by in large, he achieved that.

 

The whole "well I'd heard of him," crack is tiresome. That wasn't the crux of Carr's job and we all know it.

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Think Carr was lauded as a footballing guru when it suited the club and thrown under the bus when that suited them too.

 

He's bent as anything, but nearly every football agent and scout are. A bunch of rich folk doing favours for one another for the right price.

 

Unbelievably harsh man.

 

I truly believe so many more of the players he brought in would have done far better if we ever bothered to have a decent manager at the club at the time.

 

 

 

That's rubbish as many have done shit after leaving us.

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Carr's job might have said chief scout but in reality he was more of an agent than anything else. His remit was to find young players with sell on value and, by in large, he achieved that.

 

The whole "well I'd heard of him," crack is tiresome. That wasn't the crux of Carr's job and we all know it.

We've sold, what, two players for a profit from his scouting? I'd say that is pretty poor if that was his job like.

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Carr's job might have said chief scout but in reality he was more of an agent than anything else. His remit was to find young players with sell on value and, by in large, he achieved that.

 

The whole "well I'd heard of him," crack is tiresome. That wasn't the crux of Carr's job and we all know it.

We've sold, what, two players for a profit from his scouting? I'd say that is pretty poor if that was his job like.

 

That's more to do with Pardew tbh, we technically didn't sell Ben Arfa either but under anyone with competence we would have and for s*** loads.

 

Carr has had plenty of downs as well as ups but the Pardew factor shouldn't be ignored as it's the main reason why a lot of the signings weren't more successful.

 

But this has been done to death with far too many people straight up ignoring the Pardew and Ashley factors for there to be an actual balanced discussion on the subject.

 

Either way we are in a much better place now.

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Carr's job might have said chief scout but in reality he was more of an agent than anything else. His remit was to find young players with sell on value and, by in large, he achieved that.

 

The whole "well I'd heard of him," crack is tiresome. That wasn't the crux of Carr's job and we all know it.

We've sold, what, two players for a profit from his scouting? I'd say that is pretty poor if that was his job like.

 

Not that it's that much better, but it's more like six. We've sold 3 or 4 just this window for a profit.

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At some point he became the scapegoat. All of the blame for where we are should lie at Charnley's door as he controls the club.

 

I'd say it was further back than that. I think it was Llambias that started the whole purple, buying within ridiculously stringent age and price limits with the aim to make profits nonsense. Charnley carried it on and should shouder a hell of a lot of blame too, but Llambias, well he was just pure scumbag personified. Anyway, it's Ashley who is at most fault as he let or controlled what actions went on.

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