TRon Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 3 hours ago, samptime29 said: Nobody covered themselves in glory on that goal. Clark hasn't been as good this season but he's not been awful. Today was a pen, and sloppy but he was trying to be aggressive, just caught him on the arm. He's a good honest pro, but when he gets a longer run of games, his limitations start getting more apparent and he starts costing us goals. I don't begrudge him his new contract, but if we get half decent owners he needs to be upgraded. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Clark, ritchie, gayle, Murphy..they are all grafters you see at top championship clubs and lower relegation fighting premier league clubs. They give there all and have moments, Clark's goals have been invaluable. They simply wouldn't play for better or ambitious clubs though. None would be here had Rafa stayed. I'd add shelvey but he doesn't graft. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consortium of one Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Like so many of our older players his legs are gone. He has no recovery quickness Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinoasprilla Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 He cant play in the center of the three as he cant tackle with his right (that was the problem when Wood skinned him). He should be playing to the left or not at all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 I really like Clark. Perhaps I've just been put off from some of the horrific CBs we have had to watch through the years, Bramble, Boumsong, Taylor etc. I like a centre half who doesn't make howlers, who shows some leadership and gets on with no fuss. Clark has been all of those things and we was key to our promotion. He is one of the few players I don't worry about, I'd fancy Lascelles getting turned by a pacey striker before Clark making a howler. He shouldn't be first choice, looking forward, but he's calm and efficient and we want to be careful before throwing reliable centre half's in the bin, when we don't know who could be coming in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 I’m not going to blame him too much for the penalty to be honest. You can’t jump without bringing up your arms, and the law states that if your arms aren’t by your side then it’s a penalty. By letter of the law it was penalty although it was more ball to hand than hand to ball. It’s the law that is wrong, and that’s down to having money men in charge of football instead of people who have actually played the game, or have any sort of mental ability to recognise the laws of physics and anatomy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 5 minutes ago, STM said: I really like Clark. Perhaps I've just been put off from some of the horrific CBs we have had to watch through the years, Bramble, Boumsong, Taylor etc. I like a centre half who doesn't make howlers, who shows some leadership and gets on with no fuss. Clark has been all of those things and we was key to our promotion. He is one of the few players I don't worry about, I'd fancy Lascelles getting turned by a pacey striker before Clark making a howler. He shouldn't be first choice, looking forward, but he's calm and efficient and we want to be careful before throwing reliable centre half's in the bin, when we don't know who could be coming in. Totally disagree with every point you made there mind. As for Lascelle’s getting turned by a pacey striker, Clark can’t even match the pace of a carthorse like Wood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Stifler said: I’m not going to blame him too much for the penalty to be honest. You can’t jump without bringing up your arms, and the law states that if your arms aren’t by your side then it’s a penalty. By letter of the law it was penalty although it was more ball to hand than hand to ball. It’s the law that is wrong, and that’s down to having money men in charge of football instead of people who have actually played the game, or have any sort of mental ability to recognise the laws of physics and anatomy. The truth is, without his arm there, he would have still got his head on the ball and the pattern of the game wouldn't have changed but yes, as you say, it was a penalty by the laws of the game. I'd have a been fuming had we not got that pen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Just now, et tu brute said: Totally disagree with every point you made there mind. As for Lascelle’s getting turned by a pacey striker, Clark can’t even match the pace of a carthorse like Wood. He doesn't need to, his positioning is normally better than Lascelles. Like Dummett, people like to bash him first. Rafa liked both players. I know who I trust. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Just now, STM said: He doesn't need to, his positioning is normally better than Lascelles. Like Dummett, people like to bash him first. Rafa liked both players. I know who I trust. Clark was 5th choice under Rafa in his final season. Each to their own, if the likes of Clark, Dummett and Ritchie float your boat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 1 minute ago, et tu brute said: Clark was 5th choice under Rafa in his final season. Each to their own, if the likes of Clark, Dummett and Ritchie float your boat. What you on about "float your boat". Clever cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, STM said: What you on about "float your boat". Clever cunt. Go and play football manager with Clark as your captain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 2 hours ago, Stifler said: I’m not going to blame him too much for the penalty to be honest. You can’t jump without bringing up your arms, and the law states that if your arms aren’t by your side then it’s a penalty. By letter of the law it was penalty although it was more ball to hand than hand to ball. It’s the law that is wrong, and that’s down to having money men in charge of football instead of people who have actually played the game, or have any sort of mental ability to recognise the laws of physics and anatomy. I wanted to agree with this version of events, I watched a few replays of that penalty incident desperately looking for a reason to say we were hard done by VAR, but I just couldn't work out why his right arm was outstretched so far above the forward's head. Even if the ball didn't hit his arm you could argue he was obstructing the player's jump. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 Rapidly becoming a prime candidate for the “players you saw too much of thread”. Now his set piece goals gave dried up, he offers nothing at all. Get him dropped for fuck’s sake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 2021's Mike Williamson. Crap and way out of his depth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmesy Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 I cannot fathom for the life of me why this clogger is starting ahead of blatantly better players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 What the funk is he doing in the team. Shit penalty, two yards late every time and then when he gets the ball he loses it. Why the hell is schar on the bench and fede not even called up...unreal! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 He needs put down, fucking dumb as fuck, how stupid do you have to be knowing VAR is I’m existence today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 (edited) Never want to see his horrible permanently pained expression again. Edited November 6, 2021 by Smal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy84 Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 Signed over 5 years ago as a squad player for the championship and still starting in the PL Even when we signed him he had a rep for being ropey Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 Another one who did a job for us, but will end up getting pelters and tainting his stay for no fault of his own. Should’ve been sold about three years ago. Not his fault really. A bit like Ritchie, Dummett, Lascelles, Darlow, Shelvey, Hayden and Gayle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 Got the assist for the equaliser, didn't he? Not saying he shouldn't be one of the first to be replaced, but credit where it's due. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 6 minutes ago, Happinesstan said: Got the assist for the equaliser, didn't he? Not saying he shouldn't be one of the first to be replaced, but credit where it's due. It was a good header to tee up the goal in fairness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 He doesn’t have to be starting, that’s the thing. Two better CBs on the bench. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 Not his fault he's getting picked. He's a reliable squad player / bench warmer but shouldn't be in the first XI. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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