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1 hour ago, BottledDog said:

There are a lot of cunts in this thread. 

May have made some brutal mistakes recently but, and possibly because, he gave his all.

 

Cheers for your efforts fella.

Yes and no, he cost us a probable win against Norwich when we fucking needed it.  There was no reason for that in that game and what happened in SA was fucking ludicrous.

 

He was decent at times but if we finish 18th and Norwich are 17th by 2 points or less then you can see where I am going.  He should have went out on loan, he would have earned the same as he does now.  That would only benefit him really, we would have been subsidising his wages.  Instead he has 6 months of sitting in the reserves towards the end of his career, it won't effect us, only him.

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People need to stop finding issues and start finding positives like. That goes for life in general, and I include myself in that too. Fuck me, stirring up a frenzy about someone on his phone. It may be rude or whatever, but it's all just a bit OTT. 

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Just now, Heron said:

People need to stop finding issues and start finding positives like. That goes for life in general, and I include myself in that too. Fuck me, stirring up a frenzy about someone on his phone. It may be rude or whatever, but it's all just a bit OTT. 

 

Aye. Our fans need to get a fucking grip. It's really not that deep.

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The abuse this guy has got recently is bloody ridiculous. He is crap and was rightly de-registered. He is only still here thanks to Ashley though and has always seemed like a good pro. No need to read into small things and look to find issues. That Norwich defending was brainless too but some fans reacted like it was something far more insulting to us, when it was simply rash and impulsive as he had very little time to think. No need trying to justify the abuse. 

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26 minutes ago, St. Maximin said:

The abuse this guy has got recently is bloody ridiculous. He is crap and was rightly de-registered. He is only still here thanks to Ashley though and has always seemed like a good pro. No need to read into small things and look to find issues. That Norwich defending was brainless too but some fans reacted like it was something far more insulting to us, when it was simply rash and impulsive as he had very little time to think. No need trying to justify the abuse. 

 

I think before the Norwich incident he was barely in the minds of most people barring complaining about why he was in the team. That red card against Norwich was the last straw for most (including me). Could easily be the difference between staying up this season or not.

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Glad that he's out of the team as he can no longer perform at this level. Him still having a contract is a remnant from the previous regime. Whether he wants to be a non-entity collecting his paycheck or is looking for another club, key is that he has played his last match for us.

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9 hours ago, BottledDog said:

There are a lot of cunts in this thread. 

May have made some brutal mistakes recently but, and possibly because, he gave his all.

 

Cheers for your efforts fella.

 

I do agree with this. He wasn't good enough, but he did give 100% for the shirt when he was wearing it. Not impressed by him refusing to go out on loan though, that's taken away some of the goodwill he's earned.

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6 hours ago, Dr Jinx said:

Why is he training with the first team?


Yeah, I don’t get that. No matter who it was that was left out. To then have an unhappy, pissed off and unmotivated individual around the group who has no chance of playing seems a little odd. He might be the model professional mind and asked if he could still train with the first team.

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I don't know for sure however he may have children settled in schools in or around Newcastle? that would have a bearing on my decision to move I think
Either way both sides of the argument are valid, sending off & other errors were poor, i'm 100% sure he didn't make those errors on purpose, conversely hes miles out of his depth now so rightly so hes been dropped from squad to make room for what we need.

 

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7 hours ago, Dr Jinx said:

Why is he training with the first team?

Would be pretty brutal to exclude him from training. Keeps him part of the group which is good for his well-being and team morale (would affect others seeing a team mate banished), suppose it’s also another body for training matches and tactical drills.

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6 hours ago, Mazzy said:

 

I think before the Norwich incident he was barely in the minds of most people barring complaining about why he was in the team. That red card against Norwich was the last straw for most (including me). Could easily be the difference between staying up this season or not.

If we go down it's not because of a split second decision in one game where, anyone who has ever played CB would have potentially, instinctively done the same, it will be because of 14 years of neglect and 2 of gross managerial misconduct. 

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2 hours ago, Hanshithispantz said:

He'll be fine man, he'll be mates with most of the squad and they'll likely just get along like normal colleagues.

 

I doubt he's going to be curled up in the dressing room every day blasting Sparklehorse, crying.


I really doubt he will be fine like after being left out of the squad.

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1 hour ago, SAK said:

Would be pretty brutal to exclude him from training. Keeps him part of the group which is good for his well-being and team morale (would affect others seeing a team mate banished), suppose it’s also another body for training matches and tactical drills.

 

I don't know in the UK, but in Spain preventing a player with a senior contract from training with the first team squad will get you in trouble with the PFA.

 

 

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8 hours ago, Mazzy said:

 

I think before the Norwich incident he was barely in the minds of most people barring complaining about why he was in the team. That red card against Norwich was the last straw for most (including me). Could easily be the difference between staying up this season or not.

Yeah but that’s the silly thing. Before that he was just crap but inoffensive. He made one stupid decision in the heat of the moment (not the first or last person to in this team) and all of a sudden people have used that as an excuse to give him loads of abuse. Yeah we dropped points, but that wouldn’t have mattered if the team in general hadn’t been crap for most of the season. 

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6 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said:

He'll still very likely be able to act like a normal human being around his team mates though.


Not what I was saying though. Players won’t be busting a gut in training if there is no point, they’ll just go through the motions. I just can’t see how that can be beneficial for anyone involved. It’s a bit of a weird situation altogether really. Having players there that have no chance of playing is just an odd concept.

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