Tribesman Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Think Kenyon’s got a few questions to answer too about his ‘bid’. The whole thing is a bit fishy to me. I’d probably be a bit less cynical if fat boy hadn’t performed in that horrendous interview on Sky where he did a 5 year old’s impression of someone trying to think. ‘Hmmmmmmmm.....’ Kenyon is on Ashleys payroll, lets be honest here. These crazy comments really need to stop. The way people go about Ashley and Bishop as if they pull the strings on everyone in the world. You can hardly blame people for suspecting so. The whole thing stinks like. Leaks to journalists, more progress than ever, due diligence, the timing of the whole entire thing. Then, apparently he never had the funds anyway. Whilst Bishop isnt the puppetmaster that he's sometimes portrayed as, there's a lot of smoke and mirrors with pretty much anything the club do. There are definitely questions need to be asked of Kenyon, but I think its simply down to Kenyon not playing ball with Ashley and him shifting the blame to Kenyon for not meeting his unreasonable demands. Ashley does like to play games, but I just hate comments like "Kenyon is in on it with Ashley, he must like Bishop's coin" its just unnecessary. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Club isn’t ever for sale unless someone offers millions over the value which will get rejected and then offers millions more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 More positive of a sale with this news tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Looking forward to seeing what is actually shown in the accounts this year, surely hes taken a big chunk of the debt out the club, but will it actually be obvious or cleverly hidden? It will be clear- it's not the first time he has repaid part of the shareholders loan (he also did it after the Carroll sale) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Did anybody in the media ever bother to ask Kenyon about it? It strikes me as strange that nobody reporting on the matter thought to ask the horse's mouth. As for the suggestion that thinking a PR company releasing things to the press, constitutes "conspiracy theorising" get tae fuck, what services do you think PR firms provide? I swear people just put "conspiracy theory" in their arguments as a protective measure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 In the same vein he’s not Lord Varys, KB isn’t just some bloke Ashley sits with either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Did anybody in the media ever bother to ask Kenyon about it? It strikes me as strange that nobody reporting on the matter thought to ask the horse's mouth. As for the suggestion that thinking a PR company releasing things to the press, constitutes "conspiracy theorising" get tae fuck, what services do you think PR firms provide? I swear people just put "conspiracy theory" in their arguments as a protective measure. Exactly. You only have to read that letter from Willie McKay to Emiliano Sala to understand the smoke and mirrors that go on in the football world. Suspecting that Kenyon may possibly have been part of Ashley’s fucking around with is not crazy or tinfoil hat. Thinking Ashley isn’t an inveterate liar is more crazy iyam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 More positive of a sale with this news tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon No9 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Should we start a protest now or something? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
morla84 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Should we start a protest now or something? Pleased I kept hold of the chocolate coins ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmonkey Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Ashley never had any intention of selling the club because why would he? Owning NUFC makes him richer. Vast sums of football fans' money are routed via the club shop and retailing fees into Sports Direct, free advertising in one of the most relevant forms available, he's already asset stripped and will want to see the development of Strawberry place through (he's probably an investor, after all there was a news story about him expanding into real estate), and no doubt all manner of morally corrupt transactions are taking place that funnels NUFC's money into Ashley's pockets without ever having to declare anything in the annual financial statements. He'll never be questioned as to why he loaned NUFC money instead of injecting cash as equity. He'll never be asked what terms and clauses he added when loaning the club cash and what he got in return for not charging interest. He's put out through the media this idea that NUFC has cost him money, but it's utter bullshit and you know it's bullshit because he's refused to sell this "loss making" club for far more than he bought it for. If this club was genuinely costing him millions to run per year he'd have chopped his arm off to get a sale, but it's the complete opposite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Someone write a letter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Did anybody in the media ever bother to ask Kenyon about it? It strikes me as strange that nobody reporting on the matter thought to ask the horse's mouth. That would involve doing some actual journalism. And why do that when you can basically copy and paste someone else's article, or go off a Twitter rumour from @xXxFOOTBALLITK2008xXx no matter if it's true or not, and still have people believe it. Just look how quickly the rest of the media went with that £51m transfer bid story based on one Tweet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinoasprilla Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Until the next transfer window.............. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Ashley never had any intention of selling the club because why would he? Owning NUFC makes him richer. Vast sums of football fans' money are routed via the club shop and retailing fees into Sports Direct, free advertising in one of the most relevant forms available, he's already asset stripped and will want to see the development of Strawberry place through (he's probably an investor, after all there was a news story about him expanding into real estate), and no doubt all manner of morally corrupt transactions are taking place that funnels NUFC's money into Ashley's pockets without ever having to declare anything in the annual financial statements. He'll never be questioned as to why he loaned NUFC money instead of injecting cash as equity. He'll never be asked what terms and clauses he added when loaning the club cash and what he got in return for not charging interest. He's put out through the media this idea that NUFC has cost him money, but it's utter bullshit and you know it's bullshit because he's refused to sell this "loss making" club for far more than he bought it for. If this club was genuinely costing him millions to run per year he'd have chopped his arm off to get a sale, but it's the complete opposite. Problem for the media angle is that the audience for those kinds of questions is maybe 30% of Newcastle fans, that’s it. Everyone else in football isn’t really interested. It’s not like there’s a massive public interest story in revealing details of our accounts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 BUT it Feels different this time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribesman Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 https://twitter.com/LukeEdwardsTele/status/1102164282207338496 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 https://twitter.com/LukeEdwardsTele/status/1102164282207338496 "Like all of you" Has every single one of his followers expressed boredom? Could be true, Is'pose. Or he could jus be saying, show's over folks, move along now. But don't stop following me, pleeeeease. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Think Kenyon’s got a few questions to answer too about his ‘bid’. The whole thing is a bit fishy to me. I’d probably be a bit less cynical if fat boy hadn’t performed in that horrendous interview on Sky where he did a 5 year old’s impression of someone trying to think. ‘Hmmmmmmmm.....’ Kenyon is on Ashleys payroll, lets be honest here. These crazy comments really need to stop. The way people go about Ashley and Bishop as if they pull the strings on everyone in the world. Kenyon is a nothing really, far from everyone in the world. It''s either that or Kenyon is so stupid that he didn't realise Ashley is not for selling, but it's gone past the point of that being believable now tbh Also, he wrote a fucking letter thanking Mike for great progress blah blah, it fucking stinks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Did anybody in the media ever bother to ask Kenyon about it? It strikes me as strange that nobody reporting on the matter thought to ask the horse's mouth. As for the suggestion that thinking a PR company releasing things to the press, constitutes "conspiracy theorising" get tae f***, what services do you think PR firms provide? I swear people just put "conspiracy theory" in their arguments as a protective measure. Exactly. You only have to read that letter from Willie McKay to Emiliano Sala to understand the smoke and mirrors that go on in the football world. Suspecting that Kenyon may possibly have been part of Ashley’s f***ing around with is not crazy or tinfoil hat. Thinking Ashley isn’t an inveterate liar is more crazy iyam Except that no one suggested that thinking 'a PR company releasing things to the press, constitutes "conspiracy theorising" - which if you've been in the chat section is basic Sadnesstan straw-manning - or said that Ashley isn't a liar - which would obviously be nuts and literally no one has suggested. In fact Ashley being a liar was put forward as the obvious, non-conspiracy theory, theory. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Think Kenyon’s got a few questions to answer too about his ‘bid’. The whole thing is a bit fishy to me. I’d probably be a bit less cynical if fat boy hadn’t performed in that horrendous interview on Sky where he did a 5 year old’s impression of someone trying to think. ‘Hmmmmmmmm.....’ Kenyon is on Ashleys payroll, lets be honest here. These crazy comments really need to stop. The way people go about Ashley and Bishop as if they pull the strings on everyone in the world. Kenyon is a nothing really, far from everyone in the world. It''s either that or Kenyon is so stupid that he didn't realise Ashley is not for selling, but it's gone past the point of that being believable now tbh Also, he wrote a fucking letter thanking Mike for great progress blah blah, it fucking stinks. as soon as that letter was leaked, it immediately became obvious the whole episode was a stunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Should we start a protest now or something? As if our fanbase does proper protests :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Sunday Times reporting club is no longer available for sale. Not that I believe Ashley was ever a willing seller unless someone came in with a bid way over its actual value (not going to happen). Well fuck me sideways, never saw that coming... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 I know that there's a danger of picking and choosing what you believe in social media/newspapers, but I'm sure there was a report that Ashley wanted stupid terms regarding future advertising and other untold terms and conditions. The "sale price" was never really the actual"walk away, no-strings sale price". Anyway, I remember reading such a report, and I firmly believe it. It makes me query the investors who signed NDAs to access the due diligence data cube or whatever the fuck they called it. The "books". I understand that process is quite expensive and therefore any investors who paid for access to that data have made a significant investment. It makes me wonder if any such investors have an actionable claim against Ashley for those monies, in that they invested in good faith whereas Ashley demonstrated bad faith with regards to the "sale price". It wouldn't be the first time Ashley was sued by erstwhile or would-be partners. And would the NDAs still apply if bad faith was demonstrated? If any such investors exist, of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odear Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 The financial crash circa 2008/9 exposed the chancers in business, funnily enough that was around the time Chelsea got rid of Kenyon. He did 6 years there and 6 at Man Utd. His career has been all downhill for the last decade. I think Ashley would sell if any genuine buyers were to bid.. Staveley and Kenyon don’t have a pot to piss in between them so it’s anyones guess why they put themselves out there like that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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