Infinitely Content Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Deserves massive credit for telling Dubravka to have the game of his life. Well done. Totally this. I mean we won tonight so this may sound hollow but we were totally outplayed by Sheffield United. This is the worry. I can't wait to reach 40 points. Imo, having the ball is not synonymous with outplaying a team. We outdone them them tactically and out-fought them. For all their possession they created nothing when it really mattered and had no idea how to break us down when plan A wasn't working. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Deserves massive credit for telling Dubravka to have the game of his life. Well done. Totally this. I mean we won tonight so this may sound hollow but we were totally outplayed by Sheffield United. This is the worry. I can't wait to reach 40 points. Imo, having the ball is not synonymous with outplaying a team. We outdone them them tactically and out-fought them. For all their possession they created nothing when it really mattered and had no idea how to break us down when plan A wasn't working. I'd count that header that Dubs saved as creating something like. Second half i think they knew they'd blown their chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Deserves massive credit for telling Dubravka to have the game of his life. Well done. Totally this. I mean we won tonight so this may sound hollow but we were totally outplayed by Sheffield United. This is the worry. I can't wait to reach 40 points. Imo, having the ball is not synonymous with outplaying a team. We outdone them them tactically and out-fought them. For all their possession they created nothing when it really mattered and had no idea how to break us down when plan A wasn't working. I'd count that header that Dubs saved as creating something like. Second half i think they knew they'd blown their chance. "When it really mattered" meaning the second half when they had to find a way back into the game. We were very, very comfortable all half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Deserves massive credit for telling Dubravka to have the game of his life. Well done. Totally this. I mean we won tonight so this may sound hollow but we were totally outplayed by Sheffield United. This is the worry. I can't wait to reach 40 points. Imo, having the ball is not synonymous with outplaying a team. We outdone them them tactically and out-fought them. For all their possession they created nothing when it really mattered and had no idea how to break us down when plan A wasn't working. I'd count that header that Dubs saved as creating something like. Second half i think they knew they'd blown their chance. "When it really mattered" meaning the second half when they had to find a way back into the game. We were very, very comfortable all half. Aight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Still don’t like the bloke as a man or manager. Had this been Rafa in charge in this position I’d be optimistic and thinking we could have a crack at Europe. Doubt we’d have qualified but I reckon we’d have had a go. You just feel under Bruce this is probably peak Newcastle. Mid-table alsorans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Still don’t like the bloke as a man or manager. Had this been Rafa in charge in this position I’d be optimistic and thinking we could have a crack at Europe. Doubt we’d have qualified but I reckon we’d have had a go. You just feel under Bruce this is probably peak Newcastle. Mid-table alsorans. This is it. We aren't even playing that well, in another universe that's a 4-1 defeat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Deserves massive credit for telling Dubravka to have the game of his life. Well done. Totally this. I mean we won tonight so this may sound hollow but we were totally outplayed by Sheffield United. This is the worry. I can't wait to reach 40 points. Which is when we'll tail off. And I think the twat in charge will happily lead in influencing that mentality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 I don't like Bruce but he has more points than I thought he would at this stage. We are playing very similar to Rafa at moment, good defensively, mix bag attacking. I am not sure Rafa would have more points from those games. Now I think it will go bad but at the moment he is able to get points, very unlikely to go down and tbh 3 points off 6th Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 I don't like Bruce but he has more points than I thought he would at this stage. We are playing very similar to Rafa at moment, good defensively, mix bag attacking. I am not sure Rafa would have more points from those games. Now I think it will go bad but at the moment he is able to get points, very unlikely to go down and tbh 3 points off 6th I rest my case m'lord. Some fans man! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Puppets Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 I don't like Bruce but he has more points than I thought he would at this stage. We are playing very similar to Rafa at moment, good defensively, mix bag attacking. I am not sure Rafa would have more points from those games. Now I think it will go bad but at the moment he is able to get points, very unlikely to go down and tbh 3 points off 6th I rest my case m'lord. Some fans man! He’s right though isn’t he? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amir_9 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Provided he keeps the team chemistry and spirits up and no rot sets after a poor run of form - he will have more than done his job and what is expected of him. I'm not particularly fussed about him nor am I fussed about the regime/the way the club is at the minute. I do not go to the games because the bigger picture is we are ambition-less and just exist to "be there". But I will say, I still do enjoy seeing us win, even under this guy, who we all knew shouldn't be anywhere near the Premier League. I am not too certain dropping down to the Championship or League 1 for a few years will necessarily bring us better owners - look at Sunderland. Just enjoy the wins until the shit inevitably hits the fan, its not like we have much else to cheer for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odear Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Severe double standards when it comes to this man v. Rafa. If Rafa was still in charge, everyone tonight would be lauding his tactics and how he masterminded a win against a form team while having a shit squad etc.. Steve Bruce does it.. “oh the keeper had the game of his life”, “just defend and hope for the best” I find him excruciating like I do many of those journeymen managers who seem to specialise in teams that battle relegation year in year out. But let’s face it, he’s doing better than any of us thought. He deserves credit for that. You look at teams like Everton, Arsenal and especially West Ham when we played them, and you see teams who have thrown in the towel for their managers. Players who don’t give a fuck. Don’t want to make any effort while those managers are still there etc. That’s not nufc. Every single player is putting in a shift. Heads haven’t dropped when we’ve lost. We’re now 6 points better off and 3 places higher than we were at this stage last season with a better goal difference of +1 All of this without an actual center forward like we had last season with Rondon.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Play defensively and hope for the best. ??? Shelveys goal made it look more comfortable than it was - 9k Sheffield United have a good record at home but our attacking still worries me - it's just not clicking. Our defence is what is saving us. Does Bruce deserve some credit? Only for sticking to the tactics Rafa introduced Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Christ, they’re all in tonight. He’s still shite Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 shite, but lucky. a lucky shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 9 men behind the ball Route 1 versus a promoted team with less money. He gets a pass for doing it against Man U, Man City, Liverpool etc., but against a promoted team with less money? No way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 It all just feels completely unsustainable, just as did with Pardew, right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Severe double standards when it comes to this man v. Rafa. If Rafa was still in charge, everyone tonight would be lauding his tactics and how he masterminded a win against a form team while having a shit squad etc.. Steve Bruce does it.. “oh the keeper had the game of his life”, “just defend and hope for the best” I find him excruciating like I do many of those journeymen managers who seem to specialise in teams that battle relegation year in year out. But let’s face it, he’s doing better than any of us thought. He deserves credit for that. You look at teams like Everton, Arsenal and especially West Ham when we played them, and you see teams who have thrown in the towel for their managers. Players who don’t give a fuck. Don’t want to make any effort while those managers are still there etc. That’s not nufc. Every single player is putting in a shift. Heads haven’t dropped when we’ve lost. We’re now 6 points better off and 3 places higher than we were at this stage last season with a better goal difference of +1 All of this without an actual center forward like we had last season with Rondon.. ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Team spirit looks good tbf. We are pretty disjointed in attack - improvement needed there. But nobody has thrown in towel, we graft hard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 He's doing ok but he's an awful bloke who I wish nothing but misery on. The bloke has treated plenty of other employers with complete disdain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgarve Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 He's doing ok but he's an awful bloke who I wish nothing but misery on. The bloke has treated plenty of other employers with complete disdain. Definitely not an awful bloke Maybe a shit manager Never met you but would guess from your opinion of someone that you have never met you could possibly be more of a cunt but maybe I’m wrong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 He's doing ok but he's an awful bloke who I wish nothing but misery on. The bloke has treated plenty of other employers with complete disdain. Definitely not an awful bloke Maybe a s*** manager Never met you but would guess from your opinion of someone that you have never met you could possibly be more of a c*** but maybe I’m wrong Get off the sauce mate. He's a terrible bloke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiedean Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 He's doing ok but he's an awful bloke who I wish nothing but misery on. The bloke has treated plenty of other employers with complete disdain. Definitely not an awful bloke Maybe a shit manager Never met you but would guess from your opinion of someone that you have never met you could possibly be more of a cunt but maybe I’m wrong An awful bloke drops teams at the drop of a hat like this snake has a few times The man is an absolute grade A shithouse get real man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
soyt Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 We are doing lot better than i ever would have tought. I was expecting us to be bottom, or at least in the bottom 3 by now. It seems that we wont be relegated so he's here next season also. Hate the fucker but hey, this is football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Severe double standards when it comes to this man v. Rafa. If Rafa was still in charge, everyone tonight would be lauding his tactics and how he masterminded a win against a form team while having a shit squad etc.. Steve Bruce does it.. “oh the keeper had the game of his life”, “just defend and hope for the best” I find him excruciating like I do many of those journeymen managers who seem to specialise in teams that battle relegation year in year out. But let’s face it, he’s doing better than any of us thought. He deserves credit for that. You look at teams like Everton, Arsenal and especially West Ham when we played them, and you see teams who have thrown in the towel for their managers. Players who don’t give a fuck. Don’t want to make any effort while those managers are still there etc. That’s not nufc. Every single player is putting in a shift. Heads haven’t dropped when we’ve lost. We’re now 6 points better off and 3 places higher than we were at this stage last season with a better goal difference of +1 All of this without an actual center forward like we had last season with Rondon.. With Rafa though, you instinctively know these kind of wins are wins he and his staff can deliver time and time again because of their skill set, even if the players’ own skill set isn’t the best whether it’s against a top team or a poor team. Rafa can mastermind results against anyone. Bruce cannot, results that do go his way are not forged on the training ground and carved out using his skill set, they result from other factors that when combined, will work form time to time. When just one or two of those factors don’t, however, and Bruce is tasked with actually having to apply his own skills, which he’s shown time and time again he doesn’t have and what skills he does have, any Tom Dick or Harry can exhibit, it all breaks down and gets exposed for what it is. SHITE! Beating Sheff Utd 2-0 is like Pardew’s Newcastle beating Stoke away. In the end, he backed up his brilliance, his skills, his ‘I’ve got this, I know what I’m doing’ with SHITE after SHITE. Credit Bruce? What because he’s beaten a promoted team away in a smash and grab fashion, a performance on another day that would have lead to the same kind if defeat away to Norwich, that other promoted team. Finish 10th this season and consistently over achieve for whatever years he’s at the club and maybe then he’ll deserve credit and justify ‘he’s doing a good job’, ‘he deserves respect for the jobs he’s doing’ type sound bites. I guarantee he’ll finish this season below tenth and either eventually relegate the team or after flirting with relegation every season, with the football getting more worse with every game and the games without a win streaks getting longer and longer spanning whole months, he’ll be called out for what he is, always has been and always will be, SHITE. It’s ridiculous to even compare the two anyway, especially after what, 15 games or so? Rafa won the Championship at the first time of asking, finished tenth and then proceeded to keep the club up, all on a negative net spend with a Championship squad. Rafa is someone who has the skill set to mastermind a win against Man City, against anyone in a one off match. Bruce couldn’t tie his shoes laces and if he had just half of Rafa’s abilities, qualities, integrity and skill set, well, I doubt he’d lower himself by managing Mike Ashley’s Sports Direct FC. Something Rafa did of course in the vain hope he’d be able to make the club successful. In the end though, staying would have been the lowest of the low for anyone with a degree of self worth, ambition, honour, pride and principles. We all know Brucie boy is the lowest of the low, however, lower than a snake, a man of zero integrity, self worth, honour, pride and principle. If he had any of that, he’d still be at Sheff Wed. Beating their rivals doesn’t mean fuck all. Those who think otherwise, may I remind you all, we had Rafa Benitez and in the end that meant fuck all too. It all means fuck all as long as Ashley is the owner. At least with Rafa, unlike Bruce, it meant something to have a manager with ability, with skills, with the capacity to deliver tangible achievements, to have a manager who I could respect, who had pride, was honourable, had integrity, who when he sent his players out, he did so to win, because they might be Man City, or Fulham or this is the Championship, but we are Newcastle United, we can beat City, we can finish top and go up, we can stay up, we can finish tenth, we can win trophies, play in Europe and challenge again, we can be as good as anyone. That’s what I credit Rafa for, Ashley obviously saw different and in Bruce, he has the perfect man and so do all these idiots clapping, cheering and taking their seats home and away. Enjoy beating Sheff Utd, enjoy drawing against Man City, enjoy staying up another season. But just think about what you had and could have had with Rafa. If Bruce makes you happy... then hey, enjoy these moments. While you can! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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