Robster Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 Yeah, Pulis just got sacked after 45 days at Sheffield Wednesday, would be a crazy move. Text book Ashley though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 Problem is, anyone short term will just be kept on indefinitely like Bruce is now. A "mad thought" perhaps, but can we possibly get Rafa in 'temporarily' again (Deja Vu . . . ) and then any problems for the new owners having to keep our temporary manager (who they may not have wanted) on indefinitely . . . well, it doesn't apply does it? I mean, he is now available, isn't he. Rafa would definitely NOT come back in any kind of permanent role under the current ownership (after the way he was treated by Ashley and all the broken promises) but he could be tempted by another temporary rescue job, particularly if his friends in the Consortium have indicated their imminent success to him !! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 Yeah, Pulis just got sacked after 45 days at Sheffield Wednesday, would be a crazy move. Text book Ashley though. Seems to have a fetish for failed championship managers, lately specifically of Sheffield Wednesday. And no compensation with this one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 Someone did mention on here recently that MA still leans on Graham Carr for footballing advice and he was the one that suggested Jones as a coach, and so if we do change managers hopefully we won't be seeing anymore PFMs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 Is it just me and my blind hatred for this bloke or does anyone else find his backroom team thoroughly unlikeable? I’m not sure I find them unlikeable. They are just wholly uninspiring and incompetent and they shouldn’t be anywhere near our club. The shite we’ve had to put up with at times man. Pardew, Carver, Stone and Woodman and now these 3 absolute clowns. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 I remember when I detested Pardew, even at the peak of everyone hating him he still had people defend him. I haven’t seen one person defend Bruce. (Fans I mean, not his fellow dinosaurs in the media) I feel like that's a really good point. Basically none of our own sticking up for the bloke, just other clubs' supporters regurgitating the Sky Sports Approved Opinion To Have About Steve Bruce that they heard on the tele. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 I remember when I detested Pardew, even at the peak of everyone hating him he still had people defend him. I haven’t seen one person defend Bruce. (Fans I mean, not his fellow dinosaurs in the media) I feel like that's a really good point. Basically none of our own sticking up for the bloke, just other clubs' supporters regurgitating the Sky Sports Approved Opinion To Have About Steve Bruce that they heard on the tele. We were significantly less dead inside back then, though. Remember thinking it'd get better if only Pardew were gone? Feels like childhood memories. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rafalove Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 Tbh, I’ve been equally dead inside for the last 7 years. Pardew broke me, I loved Rafa but always knew how it would end. I’ve always defended Bruce when compared to Pardew, but I’ve got to admit he’s just as bad, though no where near on as big of a cunt. If we can get someone other than the pfm’s. We should. If it’s true that Ashley still leans on Carr that makes sense, Carr was good at scouting players, but fucked up completely when his opportunity to appoint a good manager came up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 Wow. Excellent from Collymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 Tbh, I’ve been equally dead inside for the last 7 years. Pardew broke me, I loved Rafa but always knew how it would end. I’ve always defended Bruce when compared to Pardew, but I’ve got to admit he’s just as bad, though no where near on as big of a c*** . If we can get someone other than the pfm’s. We should. If it’s true that Ashley still leans on Carr that makes sense, Carr was good at scouting players, but f***ed up completely when his opportunity to appoint a good manager came up. Have to say. I probably agreed with this point before I'd paid enough attention to Bruce, before he joined. But having now experienced how he conducts himself. I think we're splitting hairs with these two cunts. Both frauds and conmen who just deflect and hide in plain sight, stealing a living. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 He is not as openly arrogant. Delusional yes, especially when it comes to his own abilities. Probably also why he is still in the game. Scale of rancidity for me remains: Pardew Souness Bruce - Carver McClaren Fat Sam - Despise him but his tenure here on balance was better than the above. Kinnear Roeder - Good honourable bloke and only on there because he was terrible as a coach. Bobby, Rafa, Kev and Hughton n/r obviously If anything Bruce far exceeded my expectations, I presumed we would be down by last Christmas. He should never have been here. It is as much as embarrassment as Kinnear at this point. Outwitted by every manager, young or old. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 Its the way he patronises the fans that riles me. Responding to criticism about only having 3 shots on target in 3 games being "oh so we have to think we're Liverpool do we?", calling us "keyboard warriors" for discussing the club in the only way that's possible due to a global pandemic going on, branding all of the criticism "histrionics" and "mass hysteria", saying that he matched the "mighty Rafa". He's a total cunt. I was probably too young to appreciate how much of a cunt Pardew was, I was aware how incompetent Carver was and how much of a wet flannel McClaren was. But Pardew, tbh, I can't overly recall as much as people can here. So I've never despised a Newcastle manager as much as this prick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 In an ideal world we'll get someone in until the end of the season due to the takeover () in the background. Dunno who the hell would take that though, think Pearson might. Mark Hughes probably too. Took Southampton til the end of the season initially when he kept them up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 He is not as openly arrogant. Delusional yes, especially when it comes to his own abilities. Probably also why he is still in the game. Scale of rancidity for me remains: Pardew Souness Bruce - Carver McClaren Fat Sam - Despise him but his tenure here on balance was better than the above. Kinnear Roeder - Good honourable bloke and only on there because he was terrible as a coach. Bobby, Rafa, Kev and Hughton n/r obviously If anything Bruce far exceeded my expectations, I presumed we would be down by last Christmas. He should never have been here. It is as much as embarrassment as Kinnear at this point. Outwitted by every manager, young or old. In fairness to Roeder he is the only one out of that lot that actually managed to turn around results by "going back to basics" when he saved our season when he was interim manager. I wouldn't really put him in this list tbh. Him and Hughton are in the same bracket for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlito Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 He is not as openly arrogant. Delusional yes, especially when it comes to his own abilities. Probably also why he is still in the game. Scale of rancidity for me remains: Pardew Souness Bruce - Carver McClaren Fat Sam - Despise him but his tenure here on balance was better than the above. Kinnear Roeder - Good honourable bloke and only on there because he was terrible as a coach. Bobby, Rafa, Kev and Hughton n/r obviously If anything Bruce far exceeded my expectations, I presumed we would be down by last Christmas. He should never have been here. It is as much as embarrassment as Kinnear at this point. Outwitted by every manager, young or old. In fairness to Roeder he is the only one out of that lot that actually managed to turn around results by "going back to basics" when he saved our season when he was interim manager. I wouldn't really put him in this list tbh. Him and Hughton are in the same bracket for me. Agreed. Personally I have nothing negative to say about Roeder. I saw him as a good honest bloke who always cared about the club and was able to get our team playing somewhat decent again. He should have at least been backed properly that season to help repair the damage Souness had done. Souness being backed with so much money while managing to make our squad paper thin was ultimately a sign of things to come during the Ashley era. Since Sir Bobby left the club, the wrong managers have always been backed while the managers the fans actually respected were never really given a fair shot in the market in comparison. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 It never worked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 The relationship with Bruce and Newcastle is over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 I actually hate the idea of temporary managers until the end of the season scenarios. In most cases, they turn out to be permanent appointments later. Some turn out good, some turn sour quickly. Especially if you promote someone from within. Unless the one that takes it on a temporary basis is like Rafa, then we should be thinking long term. Even then, I would not want Rafa back on a temporary basis knowing that Ashley will not offer the job to him once we're safe and instead he brings in Mark Hughes. Shearer knows a thing about it. Hughton got it then was binned. We promoted fucking Carver and continued to be a joke. The Greame Jones situation is interesting though. Definitely not a Bruce decision. He would have gone on and on and on about it if it was his appointment and his way of doing things. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 By the way, which one will last longer? This current thread or the canteen-loving head coach at the club? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUHRLYASLEEVESUP Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 Arguing over who is the bigger Khunt between Pardew & Bruce is like 2 bald blokes fighting over a comb The rancidity of bruce, his attitude, Perfumed accent & all round ignorance makes me want to hoof the telly through, however we move on, some encouraging signs & less of the histrionics eh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzaA2 Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 This bloke is vile, the sheer disdain he has for fans is palpable The same lines he's coming out with now, he did the same in the past to berate Villa, Sunderland fans etc. The fact he took the Wednesday, Newcastle and Villa jobs after managing Sheffield United, Sunderland and Birmingham says everything about what he thinks of fans. He was hailed as a Newcastle fan when he took the job. Yeah, that's why he managed Sunderland for years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 He’s still here then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 Pardew is likeable compared to this utter twat! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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