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1 hour ago, Joey47 said:

 

Disagree with this. Although the system and players knowledge of this system is a factor, players form and general ability should definitely matter.

 

It's why a lot of people think Maddison should be starting for england, while Southgate is unlikely to even take him in the squad. 

 

Anyway, I agree that for Joelinton his form probably came a bit too late. Also as others have said, we don't really know if he fits in to a system that plays 2 holding midfielders as he has never played that role before. I personally think he could be a beast sitting next to a classic defensive midfielder like Casemiro. 

 


Not sure what you are disagreeing with. Maybe I should’ve made it clearer, but the team has been picked and Fred has been an integral part of a team that has lost three in the last 50 games.
 

I’m not Fred’s biggest fan, but people mention Big Joe at times as he had the ability of Bruno. Bruno is having a hard time breaking into the starting XI based on performances for the national side (even though I’m sure by game 3 he’ll be starting)

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On 08/11/2022 at 17:54, TRon said:

 

Maybe he actually does a good job for Brazil. International football is different from the Premier League, it's usually played at a slower pace with more emphasis on possesion and less physical tussles in the midfield. Maybe Fred is considered a bit more reliable in keeping possession than Joelinton. Joe is perfect for the Premier because physicality plays a big part.

 

Very well-made point

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34 minutes ago, Barnes23 said:

Class today, think he does a great job of locking down that left hand side when playing out wide while still contributing to the attacking build-up and moving the team up the pitch in possession. 

This is a good point actually, I was trying to figure out why so little came down our left-hand side and it just got snuffed out by this lad. I remember Longstaff also making a great challenge on that side too. It was just a fucking wall on that side 

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1 hour ago, Rich said:

Magnificent today, just refused to accept anything other than three points.

 

His footwork was exceptional as well, barely mislaid a pass all night, and that was impressive considering he sometimes had two players biting around him. One of those games where he looked a complete midfield player.

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Can we all just put to the bed the conversation from the last year about whether he’s good enough to be part of this team long-term? Because he’s absolutely class and shows it almost every game. Other team’s players must absolutely despise him as he makes them look like shit 

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Just now, gbandit said:

Can we all just put to the bed the conversation from the last year about whether he’s good enough to be part of this team long-term? Because he’s absolutely class and shows it almost every game. Other team’s players must absolutely despise him as he makes them look like shit 

 

Yup, he's got to be one of the most difficult players to play against in the league when he's at his best, just through sheer energy levels and power alone. 

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