Rebellious Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 Worrying already how unimpressive Joe is, likes a whinge and a stroll about. Hoping its because its early days but i`m not so sure, think i`m with Rafa on this one. Even melt face couldn`t wait to get Carroll on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 Worrying already how unimpressive Joe is, likes a whinge and a stroll about. Hoping its because its early days but i`m not so sure, think i`m with Rafa on this one. Even melt face couldn`t wait to get Carroll on. He did have one really impressive moment today; brought it down fantastically well then fed the move which led to Shortstaff's effort which clipped the bar. High ball, over the right shoulder, awkward height - but got it under control with Berbatov levels of finesse. Didn't notice much else, like. Who knows how good he is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 He needs protecting and his confidence boosting. If Carroll can stay fit it will help. Predictably Joelinton will be on the bench soon but that is not necessarily a negative. There is really nothing that comes through the middle to help him. He doesn't look capable of being the game changer we need up front and the team isn't confident or playing well enough to help him out. We have seen he has the tools but is as predicted not the finished article. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. Yimentov Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 He looks guff. Maybe it's time to start kissing the badge and telling Lee ryder he used to sleep in a Kestbaia shirt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebellious Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 Worrying already how unimpressive Joe is, likes a whinge and a stroll about. Hoping its because its early days but i`m not so sure, think i`m with Rafa on this one. Even melt face couldn`t wait to get Carroll on. He did have one really impressive moment today; brought it down fantastically well then fed the move which led to Shortstaff's effort which clipped the bar. High ball, over the right shoulder, awkward height - but got it under control with Berbatov levels of finesse. Didn't notice much else, like. Who knows how good he is. Maybe its a dip in form or working with Bruce, he seemed quite promising pre-season and the goal at Tottenham was good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 I actually thought he was good today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 I actually thought he was good today. Barely seen him this season but watched today and thought he was ok. For £20m he looks alright. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 Worrying already how unimpressive Joe is, likes a whinge and a stroll about. Hoping its because its early days but i`m not so sure, think i`m with Rafa on this one. Even melt face couldn`t wait to get Carroll on. Carroll was worse if anything, although he did get one header in on goal. I don't think Joelinton is enjoying the amount of long high balls he's expected to fight for, looks to be much happier when he gets the ball to his feet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Worrying already how unimpressive Joe is, likes a whinge and a stroll about. Hoping its because its early days but i`m not so sure, think i`m with Rafa on this one. Even melt face couldn`t wait to get Carroll on. Carroll was worse if anything, although he did get one header in on goal. I don't think Joelinton is enjoying the amount of long high balls he's expected to fight for, looks to be much happier when he gets the ball to his feet. Joelinton is not the type of player Brewcie thinks he is - and he doesn’t seem to be cottoning on at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackyboy Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Having watched the first few games I doubt Joelinton will never ever be as good as Rondon was. He just looks like a raw Andy Carroll to me and why on earth Carroll gets the reception he does when warming up or coming on is embarrassing, you'd think it was Messi coming on and not some failed injury prone centre forward from 10 years ago Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Was carrying a back injury. He'll be just fine. With Almiron and Saint-Maximin either side. He'll be much more dangerous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 He simply does not get enough of the ball in dangerous attacking positions because we don't really create many chances. We also play hoof it up to him when that is clearly not his style. He does win a decent number of headers and did fairly well considering he was up against Harry McGuire. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 He simply does not get enough of the ball in dangerous attacking positions because we don't really create many chances. We also play hoof it up to him when that is clearly not his style. He does win a decent number of headers and did fairly well considering he was up against Harry McGuire. One question mark over him is his desire to get into goal scoring positions. Not sure if that is coming from him, or how we are set up at the moment, but he needs to be getting on the end of crosses if he expects to score goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 I actually think he'd be quite impressive as a wide forward with his strength and pace - ie: wide left with a Rondon type as a CF target man. -___- Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 There is no way this player is a number 9. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest covmag Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 There is no way this player is a number 9. Except he is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 He has a number 9 on his back, I'll give you that. He has no idea what hold up play is, does not run the channels enough or clever enough to run them and his movement in the opposition box is non existent hence he will never be a natural goalscorer. Just my opinion like ( oh, and Rafa's). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 He's not too clever in the air either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackyboy Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 He must have something because Ashley knows how to pick winners when it comes to football Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 He has a number 9 on his back, I'll give you that. He has no idea what hold up play is, does not run the channels enough or clever enough to run them and his movement in the opposition box is non existent hence he will never be a natural goalscorer. Just my opinion like ( oh, and Rafa's). Afaik Rafa only said no due to the fee, rather than not rating his ability or potential. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
morla84 Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Who is Afaik Rafa? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 He has a number 9 on his back, I'll give you that. He has no idea what hold up play is, does not run the channels enough or clever enough to run them and his movement in the opposition box is non existent hence he will never be a natural goalscorer. Just my opinion like ( oh, and Rafa's). Afaik Rafa only said no due to the fee, rather than not rating his ability or potential. Correct, he said he was a good player with potential but only rated him as £20m which prompted Ashley to claim he offered the difference out of his own pocket Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiesteve710 Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 He has a number 9 on his back, I'll give you that. He has no idea what hold up play is, does not run the channels enough or clever enough to run them and his movement in the opposition box is non existent hence he will never be a natural goalscorer. Just my opinion like ( oh, and Rafa's). Agree with this, certainly not good enough to lead the line by himself anyway. His hold up play is poor, he's not going to consistently win long balls in the air but alternatively he's not sitting on the shoulder of the last defender either waiting for a ball clipped over the top or to press/pounce on errors when they have the ball. The tactics and lack of service clearly aren't helping him either and you've got to wonder what actual instructions he is being given by the coaching staff as he looks lost at times like he's not sure what position to take up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate End Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 The lack of coaching/instructions isn’t helping all we’re doing is living off the structure of last seasons formation shape. Steve Bruce hasn’t brought anything coaching wise to the table. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 He's got 4 Geordies in the matchday squad man, what more do you want? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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