Various: N-O has lost the plot over potential end of Mike Ashley's tenure

[Ikon]

No it's not fun at all.

My heart sank for a split second  :razz:

 

Yeah sorry about that. At least people didn't have to check twitter or ask where he said this.

[nufcnick]

No it's not fun at all.

My heart sank for a split second  :razz:

 

Yeah sorry about that. At least people didn't have to check twitter or ask where he said this.

 

No harm no foul buddy  O0

[mighty__mag]

ChrisR working for Sky Virgin or some broadband company?

 

Fucking hell man, the amount of people using iptv amazon sticks, kodi early days online streams etc

 

And your laying the law down on abusing accounts that have been paid for, 

 

Loads of people share their netflix, if I go abroad and use the hotels ip to watch my sport app will I be in bother?

 

 

Erm, you're taking me the wrong way. I've never had Sky, either my own or someone else's. But I still watch all the football.

 

I'm just saying the people who account share can't take the moral high ground over those who pirate. That's all.

 

Yeah cause not being an arse about it.

 

But not quite moral high ground. Piracy is taking something for nothing, were effectively still paying out👍🏻

[keoma]

Illegal IPTV basically is account sharing on a much larger scale. You pay for illegal IPTV, it's still piracy. If you share accounts on a streaming service whose TOS prohibits sharing of accounts then it's also piracy.

[NEEJ]

Are we being flooded with anti-piracy plants or something?

[keoma]

I'm with Saudi Arabia, I'll stop pirating as long as they email me on the correct address. 

[Colos Short and Curlies]

People need to stop trying to justify piracy.

 

I'd wager everyone on this forum has at least tried to stream a 3pm game, have downloaded a torrent or (one for the oldies) copied a CD.

 

We all know its wrong but we've all done it. No justification and no judgment

[LFEE]

People need to stop trying to justify piracy.

 

I'd wager everyone on this forum has at least tried to stream a 3pm game, have downloaded a torrent or (one for the oldies) copied a CD.

 

We all know its wrong but we've all done it. No justification and no judgment

 

I’ll see your copied CD’s and raise you copied games on a C-90 cassettes. That’s old for you

[tgarve]

Need to re open 3pm game’s permanently

[Andy]

Illegal IPTV basically is account sharing on a much larger scale. You pay for illegal IPTV, it's still piracy. If you share accounts on a streaming service whose TOS prohibits sharing of accounts then it's also piracy.

 

It's pretty obvious that there's a stark contrast between Fred and Jeff going halfies on a service they wouldn't otherwise have bothered with, and an IPTV service that splits that service down to tiny, minute fractions, far outside of the fair use on the account (ie 2 separate IPs at one time).

 

Almost all streaming services limit by simultaneous IPs, since it's almost impossible to prove that Fred wasn't watching on one device while Fred's brother who lives in the same paying household was over at Jeff's watching on his own device. The fair use policies are set up like this deliberately, because sharing between two people is usually considered likely to incur a profit that wouldn't have otherwise existed, rather than a loss. The more fractionalised the one legitimate stream becomes, obviously the more severe the loss becomes. It's a conscious concession, and therefore treated differently by providers to large scale organised piracy.

[Scotty66]

I remember going back to school with a pirate version of teenage mutant ninja turtles after buying it on holiday abroad.

 

That shit was hot hot goods.

[Colos Short and Curlies]

I remember going back to school with a pirate version of teenage mutant ninja turtles after buying it on holiday abroad.

 

That shit was hot hot goods.

 

The game?

 

Remember having to copy down all the codes from the manual for the Spectrum game.

 

Also, does anyone else remember the radio station that played spectrum and c64 games overnight so people could record them?

 

A double deck tape player was also a vital bit of kit for copying spectrum games

[Scotty66]

I remember going back to school with a pirate version of teenage mutant ninja turtles after buying it on holiday abroad.

 

That shit was hot hot goods.

 

The game?

 

Remember having to copy down all the codes from the manual for the Spectrum game.

 

Also, does anyone else remember the radio station that played spectrum and c64 games overnight so people could record them?

 

A double deck tape player was also a vital bit of kit for copying spectrum games

 

No the movie. Was late 80's/early 90's iirc and it wasn't released in the UK. Think we got it from Cyprus 

Felt truly smug first day back at school 😂

 

But even in this day and age, there's apps you can get from play store that let you watch any live football game across all the top leagues. Piracy is completely uncontrollable now.

 

[WarrenBartonCentrePartin]

I remember going back to school with a pirate version of teenage mutant ninja turtles after buying it on holiday abroad.

 

That shit was hot hot goods.

 

Highlight of gan to Lanzarote, Tenerife, Majorca etc as a kid was knowing you'd be coming back with a 50-in-1 Game Boy cartridge.

 

It was never 50 different games, though - usually 10 repeated five times over with different names.

[Wullie]

I remember going back to school with a pirate version of teenage mutant ninja turtles after buying it on holiday abroad.

 

That shit was hot hot goods.

 

Highlight of gan to Lanzarote, Tenerife, Majorca etc as a kid was knowing you'd be coming back with a 50-in-1 Game Boy cartridge.

 

It was never 50 different games, though - usually 10 repeated five times over with different names.

 

[keoma]

Illegal IPTV basically is account sharing on a much larger scale. You pay for illegal IPTV, it's still piracy. If you share accounts on a streaming service whose TOS prohibits sharing of accounts then it's also piracy.

 

It's pretty obvious that there's a stark contrast between Fred and Jeff going halfies on a service they wouldn't otherwise have bothered with, and an IPTV service that splits that service down to tiny, minute fractions, far outside of the fair use on the account (ie 2 separate IPs at one time).

 

Almost all streaming services limit by simultaneous IPs, since it's almost impossible to prove that Fred wasn't watching on one device while Fred's brother who lives in the same paying household was over at Jeff's watching on his own device. The fair use policies are set up like this deliberately, because sharing between two people is usually considered likely to incur a profit that wouldn't have otherwise existed, rather than a loss. The more fractionalised the one legitimate stream becomes, obviously the more severe the loss becomes. It's a conscious concession, and therefore treated differently by providers to large scale organised piracy.

 

Of course it's a stark contrast between IPTV and account sharing, but Jeff paying Fred for usage of his account or 10, 100 people paying Fred, it's still basically the same thing. Penalty for Fred is obviously more severe with 100 users, and IP owners are more intrested in stopping Fred than Jeff. But if Jeff want to watch legally he should pay IP owner not Fred.

 

Usually when you pay for the right to use a media, you pay for the rights for your household. So, sharing within household is ok and as you say, it's virtually impossible to prove that this IP wasn't in use by someone belonging to your household but using another IP address. But when the technology arrives and is accepted to use, like a universial online ID, then I'm sure you won't be able to share accounts outside of family anymore.

 

A few years ago, before IPTV/online streaming, people used to do card sharing for satellite service. Both on larger scale with dreamboxes, but also on a smaller scale like buying a legal twin card which your friend pays for and uses. Small scale, still piracy. Which is why they started locking cards to some hidden ID in your box's CPU when the technology allowed for it.

 

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[Robster]

[Wilson]

Just put us out of our misery man

[Ameritoon]

No other way to read that tbh

[OpenC]

No other way to read that tbh

Absolutely unequivocal

[Ketsbaia]

As if Pochettino would touch Benfica anyways

[mighty__mag]

This is approved in the next 48hrs.

[cubaricho]

Love it. Let’s fucking rollllll.

[toontownman]

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